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Posted: 7/16/2024 11:49:12 AM EDT
 NEW: Smith & Wesson® Bodyguard® 2.0 |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 12:37:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThePontificator]
[#1]
Predict these will FLY off the shelves as fast as S&W can make them.
I like how the slide serrations are not just limited to the sides of the slide. Aggressive and impressive. What's the MSRP? ETA: $449 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2024 12:43:58 PM EDT
[#2]
A thinner version of the Ruger LCP Max without the terrible build quality of Rugers polymer line of pistols? This thing can't lose. It's only competition is the LCP line and maybe Kel-tec all of which have very poor build quality. |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 1:29:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Predict these will FLY off the shelves as fast as S&W can make them. I like how the slide serrations are not just limited to the sides of the slide. Aggressive and impressive. What's the MSRP? $450 is what I saw in another review |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2024 1:36:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: esdunbar]
[#4]
No way to mount a dot?
I had my G42 milled a while ago and it’s great. Crazy they don’t have an option for that in 2024. If they make one with a shield footprint, I’d buy one. |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 1:43:29 PM EDT
[#5]
 New Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 2.0 Gun Review |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 1:44:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By esdunbar: No way to mount a dot? I had my G42 milled a while ago and it’s great. Who did the milling? @esdunbar |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 2:41:33 PM EDT
[#7]
This really is an upgrade to the original Bodyguard 380.
It's 20% lighter, yet holds four more rounds. The only question in my mind is the trigger. Old one was hammer fired, this one is striker. I got to like the hammer, it gives second strike capability, and like a revolver has a heavy pull so it's very safe for pocket carry. . |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 4:22:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brok3n]
[#8]
What I posted in another thread:
- The good to me: - Capacity: 12+1 and 10+1 - New flat face trigger design with ~4 lbs pull - Low bore axis with decent night sights - Aesthetically looks good and in line with S&W lineup The bad: - No optics ready model and likely to thin to have one - Same tiny external manual safety of the Shield line up - MSRP: $450 / Street price: ~$400 I'm interested nonetheless but would need to shoot one first. I'd like to see a Shield Plus sized model that could potentially hold 14-5 rds, optics ready with a large external safety. It would be king of recoil! |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2024 4:29:31 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePontificator: Who did the milling? @esdunbar @ThePontificator JagerWerks did it. They've done 3 slides for me and I've been happy with all three, but the latest stuff I see online makes me weary of them. Maybe it's all overblown online hate? Not sure, but that's who did it for me. |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 6:33:19 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VersaceDesertEagle: A thinner version of the Ruger LCP Max without the terrible build quality of Rugers polymer line of pistols? This thing can't lose. It's only competition is the LCP line and maybe Kel-tec all of which have very poor build quality. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VersaceDesertEagle: A thinner version of the Ruger LCP Max without the terrible build quality of Rugers polymer line of pistols? This thing can't lose. It's only competition is the LCP line and maybe Kel-tec all of which have very poor build quality. Kinda regret buying a lcp max a couple months ago now  . I knew the bg 2.0 was teased but after not hearing anything about it u went ahead and picked up a max for 265. The new body guard looks to be a more shootable gun |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 7:00:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thebert]
[#11]
Who wants to be first? KYGUNCO show them in stock for $399.00
edit. Pre-order |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 7:04:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Crap. Should have looked a little longer. $399.00 is the going rate and I am also finding them in stock at quite a few places.
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Posted: 7/16/2024 10:47:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brok3n]
[#13]
My last "pocket gun" was a Sig P238 and the Bodyguard is even slightly smaller in some respects to it! Bodyguard 2.0 vs Sig P238 Would like to see a Bodyguard 2.0 XL version that's wide enough to hold an optic, big useable external safety, and a flush fit 12 rd mag with 14-15 rd extended mag. |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 11:46:49 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebert: Who wants to be first? KYGUNCO show them in stock for $399.00 edit. Pre-order $399 on Brownells site. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:52:43 AM EDT
[#15]
I got Buds to price match to $388 in my cart, but at checkout it kept showing $399.99.
Going back to cart still showed $388. Removed from cart, price matched again to $388, but still jumped back up to $399.99 at actual checkout. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 9:26:30 AM EDT
[#16]
When I get one of these it will live in a pocket, so I don’t plan to use an optic, so for me the lack of an optics ready configuration is a non-issue.
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Posted: 7/17/2024 9:38:23 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: When I get one of these it will live in a pocket, so I don’t plan to use an optic, so for me the lack of an optics ready configuration is a non-issue. X2 on this. Everything doesn't have to be optics ready. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 10:11:55 AM EDT
[#18]
Once sales slump, they'll offer an optics ready version. That's if one will fit on it. Having said that, these are for people wanting something as small as possible for pocket carry. I don't see optics ready as a huge sales hindering. These are for deep concealment and ease of carry. Although a tiny red dot may actually make it accurate past 10 yards. I pocket carry my Keltec P3AT in pajama bottoms.
I could see Holosun teaming up with S&W and making a smaller red dot profile to fit. Other companies would follow if sales were good. I'm surprised that Sig hasn't offered one on there P365 slide. I believe only the P365X (medium length slide) has an optics option. Sig is the king of options. I wonder about the how easy the thumb safety is to use. Pocket carry in gym shorts in a softer holster (worn DeSantis Nemesis) and a 4# trigger may not be the best combo. A kydex pocket or firm leather holster may be the way to go. I have an old horse hide Galco pocket holster that is 10 years old that is still going strong. I have even sold the spare holster that I bought for backup. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 10:28:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cruze5]
[#19]
my bodyguard 380 has been a great pocket pistol.
i really like the upgraded looks of this one. id like to see it sized to the original 4lbs trigger? yeah i would be fine if it was heavier |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 6:30:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CFII]
[#20]
Oh a whim I picked one up from Buds. I put 150rds through it. Shoots great. Its so tiny, yet you can get a really, really good grip on it. Here it is compared to my G42. You have to feel them to realize how much thinner, shorter, and lighter it is. Too narrow for a light or optic.
  
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Posted: 7/17/2024 6:45:03 PM EDT
[#21]
Niiice
comparison |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:06:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: Oh a whim I picked one up from Buds. I put 150rds through it. Shoots great. Its so tiny, yet you can get a really, really good grip on it. Here it is compared to my G42. You have to feel them to realize how much thinner, shorter, and lighter it is. Too narrow for a light or optic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1523-3269642.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1502-3269643.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1507-3269654.jpg Nice! How's felt recoil compare? |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:12:10 PM EDT
[#23]
I have a 1.0. I put 6 rounds down it, cleaned it and put in the safe a few years back. Hated the trigger, but need a pocket pistol. Will dry firing it help? Put more rounds down it? I forgot about it until I read this thread. Only have some ball ammo for it. What is a good SD round for .380. I always use HST in .45ACP / 9mm.
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:19:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Felt recoil is very soft. The grip gives you good leverage and since it’s not blowback, it’s smooth and fast.
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:20:10 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: Oh a whim I picked one up from Buds. I put 150rds through it. Shoots great. Its so tiny, yet you can get a really, really good grip on it. Here it is compared to my G42. You have to feel them to realize how much thinner, shorter, and lighter it is. Too narrow for a light or optic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1523-3269642.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1502-3269643.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1507-3269654.jpg Damn! That's small. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:31:17 PM EDT
[#26]
  Great sights. Bright orange front. Generous rear. This is not a target pistol. Lol. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:31:55 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VersaceDesertEagle: A thinner version of the Ruger LCP Max without the terrible build quality of Rugers polymer line of pistols? This thing can't lose. It's only competition is the LCP line and maybe Kel-tec all of which have very poor build quality. Nothing wrong with my Max. Sorry you got a bad one |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:33:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: What I posted in another thread: - The good to me: - Capacity: 12+1 and 10+1 - New flat face trigger design with ~4 lbs pull - Low bore axis with decent night sights - Aesthetically looks good and in line with S&W lineup The bad: - No optics ready model and likely to thin to have one - Same tiny external manual safety of the Shield line up - MSRP: $450 / Street price: ~$400 I'm interested nonetheless but would need to shoot one first. I'd like to see a Shield Plus sized model that could potentially hold 14-5 rds, optics ready with a large external safety. It would be king of recoil! I'd buy the no safety one so won't comment there, but who needs an optic on a pistol you'll only use within 5 yards?! |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 8:21:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: Felt recoil is very soft. The grip gives you good leverage and since it's not blowback, it's smooth and fast. I've got bad arthritis in my thumbs and trigger finger, the 42 is about as much as I can train with. My LCP2 is right out. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 9:59:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: Oh a whim I picked one up from Buds. I put 150rds through it. Shoots great. Its so tiny, yet you can get a really, really good grip on it. Here it is compared to my G42. You have to feel them to realize how much thinner, shorter, and lighter it is. Too narrow for a light or optic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1523-3269642.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1502-3269643.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1507-3269654.jpg Good deal. Thanks on the pics. I’ll be picking one up for sure |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 10:02:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feudist: How is it relative to your G42? I've got bad arthritis in my thumbs and trigger finger, the 42 is about as much as I can train with. My LCP2 is right out. I find it to be easier to control than the 42. The grip is longer and I can get all of my fingers on the grip, especially with the slightly longer 12rd magazine. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 11:56:47 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: Felt recoil is very soft. The grip gives you good leverage and since it's not blowback, it's smooth and fast. Thanks for all the feedback and pics! I think I'm going to hold off on purchasing one for now since I just bought a Shield Plus 2.0 and already have a P365-380. But looking forward to see what future iterations will be. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 11:59:36 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RangeToy: I'd buy the no safety one so won't comment there, but who needs an optic on a pistol you'll only use within 5 yards?! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RangeToy: Originally Posted By Brok3n: What I posted in another thread: - The good to me: - Capacity: 12+1 and 10+1 - New flat face trigger design with ~4 lbs pull - Low bore axis with decent night sights - Aesthetically looks good and in line with S&W lineup The bad: - No optics ready model and likely to thin to have one - Same tiny external manual safety of the Shield line up - MSRP: $450 / Street price: ~$400 I'm interested nonetheless but would need to shoot one first. I'd like to see a Shield Plus sized model that could potentially hold 14-5 rds, optics ready with a large external safety. It would be king of recoil! I'd buy the no safety one so won't comment there, but who needs an optic on a pistol you'll only use within 5 yards?! If you're simply target shooting at 5 yards I guess it's not an issue. In a CCW situation there's no guarantee how far your target will be. Also with the trigger in some videos pulling at ~4lbs, I'd want an external safety. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2024 8:48:49 AM EDT
[#34]
Honestly, I am glad its not cut for an optic. Even in today's world some pistols just shouldn't be cut for one, or at least have a SKU that isn't along with an optics ready model.
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Posted: 7/18/2024 9:14:55 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KissMethod17: Honestly, I am glad its not cut for an optic. Even in today's world some pistols just shouldn't be cut for one, or at least have a SKU that isn't along with an optics ready model. Its too thin for any optic that I know of. And I agree. Its a tiny pocket gun. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2024 9:22:30 AM EDT
[#36]
I wanted to get an LCP max for my wife, but this looks like a way better option.
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Posted: 7/18/2024 9:32:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Kudos to Handgunhero.com for getting a model up so fast. My last "pocket gun" was a Sig P238 and the Bodyguard is even slightly smaller in some respects to it! Bodyguard 2.0 vs Sig P238 The P238's highest mag capacity was 7 rds (extended and 6 rd flush fit mag) and S&W engineers managed to cram 3 more rounds into a flush fit mag. Would like to see a Bodyguard 2.0 XL version that's wide enough to hold an optic, big useable external safety, and a flush fit 12 rd mag with 14-15 rd extended mag. Go back and look again. The images have been adjusted and it looks like the Bodyguard is not actually smaller, same listed length. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 9:37:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BillofRights]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: Oh a whim I picked one up from Buds. I put 150rds through it. Shoots great. Its so tiny, yet you can get a really, really good grip on it. Here it is compared to my G42. You have to feel them to realize how much thinner, shorter, and lighter it is. Too narrow for a light or optic. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1523-3269642.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1502-3269643.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/27821/IMG_1507-3269654.jpg That looks awesome. I’ll be getting one for sure, once the hype dies down and they go on sale for threefiddy. The optic thing is overplayed anyway, especially with regards to a pocket pistol. I bet you sold 10,000 with those pics. 
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USA
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Posted: 7/18/2024 9:56:28 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlesRyan: I wanted to get an LCP max for my wife, but this looks like a way better option. ??? The LCP max is an excellent gun. How is this "way" better? It's different, and the differences may work better for you but that doesn't in any way make it a better gun. From my shooting with the max, no tiny pocket gun will be "way" better, there just isn't that much room for improvement. Ruger did an outstanding job with the max. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2024 10:08:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bluealtered]
[#40]
Like others I don't need or want optics for this gun. The first downside for me is that I already have the LCP II and the max, I quit liking rugers years ago but that was the best option at that time. I would like to see it next to the keltec P32 which is my carry most of the time for this time of year. Since it's 95-100 during the summer here and very much t-shirt time.
I haven't looked yet to see if handgunhero has done a post on these two yet. (Ok, just took a look on handgunhero.com and you can see the difference, not as much as I thought it would be and yes I would try one when the price comes down somewhere.) |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 11:23:19 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluealtered: Like others I don't need or want optics for this gun. The first downside for me is that I already have the LCP II and the max, I quit liking rugers years ago but that was the best option at that time. I would like to see it next to the keltec P32 which is my carry most of the time for this time of year. Since it's 95-100 during the summer here and very much t-shirt time. I haven't looked yet to see if handgunhero has done a post on these two yet. (Ok, just took a look on handgunhero.com and you can see the difference, not as much as I thought it would be and yes I would try one when the price comes down somewhere.) From the reviews I’ve seen, its a if you have a ruger max, just keep it. If you were thinking of getting max, its worth a look or if you need more corrosion resistance. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 11:42:42 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: Felt recoil is very soft. The grip gives you good leverage and since it’s not blowback, it’s smooth and fast. Locked breech is a huge boon for tiny (any) handguns. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2024 1:04:15 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rbass: ??? The LCP max is an excellent gun. How is this "way" better? It's different, and the differences may work better for you but that doesn't in any way make it a better gun. From my shooting with the max, no tiny pocket gun will be "way" better, there just isn't that much room for improvement. Ruger did an outstanding job with the max. Love my Max, but I will be buying a Bodtguard 2.0 & then I'll decide which to keep. Maybe I'll get lucky & local range will have the 2.0 for rent |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 5:45:22 PM EDT
[#44]
SMGA $399 for the NTS model.
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Posted: 7/19/2024 1:50:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Brok3n]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brazos609: Go back and look again. The images have been adjusted and it looks like the Bodyguard is not actually smaller, same listed length. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brazos609: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Kudos to Handgunhero.com for getting a model up so fast. My last "pocket gun" was a Sig P238 and the Bodyguard is even slightly smaller in some respects to it! Bodyguard 2.0 vs Sig P238 The P238's highest mag capacity was 7 rds (extended and 6 rd flush fit mag) and S&W engineers managed to cram 3 more rounds into a flush fit mag. Would like to see a Bodyguard 2.0 XL version that's wide enough to hold an optic, big useable external safety, and a flush fit 12 rd mag with 14-15 rd extended mag. Go back and look again. The images have been adjusted and it looks like the Bodyguard is not actually smaller, same listed length. Thanks! I'll need to correct the posts. And you're right, here's the actual: Bodyguard 2.0 vs P238  Bodyguard 2.0 vs P365-380  |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 2:41:33 AM EDT
[#46]
I think a heavier trigger would be better for this use case.
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Posted: 7/19/2024 5:27:05 AM EDT
[#47]
PSA has the NTS model in stock.
$399 |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 11:16:40 AM EDT
[#48]
I don't need another gun.
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Posted: 7/19/2024 11:53:51 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack_Rackham: I don't need another gun. I say the same thing. Purchase after purchase. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 12:12:53 PM EDT
[#50]
 New S&W Bodyguard 2.0 vs Ruger LCP Max Gun Comparison |
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