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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
12/23/16 Update: I'm updating this thread a bit to include the term "fauxland special". The Roland special is a very specific setup: Glock 19 with frame work and slide milling, stock internals, KKM bbl and comp, Trijicon RMR, and an X300U. What about pistols following this functional theme but not actually being Roland Specials? Unlike a clone AR thread that balks at "inspired-by builds" I'm amending this thread it to include similar glocks that deviate from the specific configuration but fill the overall function: RDS and comp equipped Glocks that aren't competition oriented "open-class" rigs. G17s, ATOM/ZEV/etc slides, other optics, upgraded triggers and internals, TBRCI comps, non-KKM barrels, non-x300u lights, lonewolf/P80/CCF frames etc... do not a Roland make, but they are functional equivalents that are being termed "faux-lands". Great minds think alike! I was talking to the folks at Primary & Secondary where Roland is a regular contributor and I think there is definitely a need to develop a term for a "catch-all" for similiar builds that are not exactly to the Roland Special spec... especially since it looks like ATEi is going be making legit Roland Special complete guns. Since the term "Roland Special" was coined by P&S, I'm gonna try to call any Glock with a MRDS, Comp, weapon mounted light and magwell the "P&S Special". I do like the "Fo-land Special" but it does require a bit more explanation as to the "Roland Special" to folks who don't know about it etc. Definitely would love to hear more suggestions for describing this weapon type concisely 
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Which magwell is that? Raven Concealment Freya, the "official" Roland Special magwell |
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Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Great minds think alike! I was talking to the folks at Primary & Secondary where Roland is a regular contributor and I think there is definitely a need to develop a term for a "catch-all" for similiar builds that are not exactly to the Roland Special spec... especially since it looks like ATEi is going be making legit Roland Special complete guns. Since the term "Roland Special" was coined by P&S, I'm gonna try to call any Glock with a MRDS, Comp, weapon mounted light and magwell the "P&S Special". I do like the "Fo-land Special" but it does require a bit more explanation as to the "Roland Special" to folks who don't know about it etc. Definitely would love to hear more suggestions for describing this weapon type concisely https://68.media.tumblr.com/c6cf3f83fa0f258c05819739b6abb02a/tumblr_oj8klysB7U1qjtttio1_1280.jpg https://68.media.tumblr.com/40889fe0cbec252a1159e93f57788653/tumblr_ojadff9oH01qjtttio1_1280.jpg "Practical Open" "Carry Comp" |
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Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Great minds think alike! I was talking to the folks at Primary & Secondary where Roland is a regular contributor and I think there is definitely a need to develop a term for a "catch-all" for similiar builds that are not exactly to the Roland Special spec... especially since it looks like ATEi is going be making legit Roland Special complete guns. Since the term "Roland Special" was coined by P&S, I'm gonna try to call any Glock with a MRDS, Comp, weapon mounted light and magwell the "P&S Special". I do like the "Fo-land Special" but it does require a bit more explanation as to the "Roland Special" to folks who don't know about it etc. Definitely would love to hear more suggestions for describing this weapon type concisely https://68.media.tumblr.com/c6cf3f83fa0f258c05819739b6abb02a/tumblr_oj8klysB7U1qjtttio1_1280.jpg https://68.media.tumblr.com/40889fe0cbec252a1159e93f57788653/tumblr_ojadff9oH01qjtttio1_1280.jpg Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
12/23/16 Update: I'm updating this thread a bit to include the term "fauxland special". The Roland special is a very specific setup: Glock 19 with frame work and slide milling, stock internals, KKM bbl and comp, Trijicon RMR, and an X300U. What about pistols following this functional theme but not actually being Roland Specials? Unlike a clone AR thread that balks at "inspired-by builds" I'm amending this thread it to include similar glocks that deviate from the specific configuration but fill the overall function: RDS and comp equipped Glocks that aren't competition oriented "open-class" rigs. G17s, ATOM/ZEV/etc slides, other optics, upgraded triggers and internals, TBRCI comps, non-KKM barrels, non-x300u lights, lonewolf/P80/CCF frames etc... do not a Roland make, but they are functional equivalents that are being termed "faux-lands". Great minds think alike! I was talking to the folks at Primary & Secondary where Roland is a regular contributor and I think there is definitely a need to develop a term for a "catch-all" for similiar builds that are not exactly to the Roland Special spec... especially since it looks like ATEi is going be making legit Roland Special complete guns. Since the term "Roland Special" was coined by P&S, I'm gonna try to call any Glock with a MRDS, Comp, weapon mounted light and magwell the "P&S Special". I do like the "Fo-land Special" but it does require a bit more explanation as to the "Roland Special" to folks who don't know about it etc. Definitely would love to hear more suggestions for describing this weapon type concisely https://68.media.tumblr.com/c6cf3f83fa0f258c05819739b6abb02a/tumblr_oj8klysB7U1qjtttio1_1280.jpg https://68.media.tumblr.com/40889fe0cbec252a1159e93f57788653/tumblr_ojadff9oH01qjtttio1_1280.jpg Sounds kinda gay to me, but as long as you keep posting sweet Roland porn on instagram you can make up all the gay names you want 
I want to build one of these eventually. Right now my 19.3 has Glock night sights, an Agency trigger, Surefire XC1, and a TTI +3 extension (if I carry without a spare, its in the pistol; if I carry two mags, the extended one is the spare). That's a perfect AIWB rig for me, so I think the Roland would serve me well as a nightstand/OWB hiking/riding in my HPG Runner's kit bag while backpacking pistol. |
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Originally Posted By lb6r:
Have to admit, having a hard time not doing this to a 26 and adding a grip extension....same footprint as my 19 with light.... id really like to comp a 26, but the stubby grip and no light rail are deal breakers for me. so now I think someone should make an 80%... 19 length grip, with a 26 length slide and a light rail. |
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Really thinking about picking up a threaded barrel and TBRCi V2 comp and adding it to my ccw 19. How much longer is the kkm comp?
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
"Practical Open" "Carry Comp" Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Great minds think alike! I was talking to the folks at Primary & Secondary where Roland is a regular contributor and I think there is definitely a need to develop a term for a "catch-all" for similiar builds that are not exactly to the Roland Special spec... especially since it looks like ATEi is going be making legit Roland Special complete guns. Since the term "Roland Special" was coined by P&S, I'm gonna try to call any Glock with a MRDS, Comp, weapon mounted light and magwell the "P&S Special". I do like the "Fo-land Special" but it does require a bit more explanation as to the "Roland Special" to folks who don't know about it etc. Definitely would love to hear more suggestions for describing this weapon type concisely https://68.media.tumblr.com/c6cf3f83fa0f258c05819739b6abb02a/tumblr_oj8klysB7U1qjtttio1_1280.jpg https://68.media.tumblr.com/40889fe0cbec252a1159e93f57788653/tumblr_ojadff9oH01qjtttio1_1280.jpg "Practical Open" "Carry Comp" Why do they need a name? Why can't they just be cool guns. |
Originally Posted By swingset
No one wants to eat right and exercise, and lower their stress levels, all of which will come in a lot more handy than a home defense carbine and chest rig
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Why do they need a name? Why can't they just be cool guns. Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Great minds think alike! I was talking to the folks at Primary & Secondary where Roland is a regular contributor and I think there is definitely a need to develop a term for a "catch-all" for similiar builds that are not exactly to the Roland Special spec... especially since it looks like ATEi is going be making legit Roland Special complete guns. Since the term "Roland Special" was coined by P&S, I'm gonna try to call any Glock with a MRDS, Comp, weapon mounted light and magwell the "P&S Special". I do like the "Fo-land Special" but it does require a bit more explanation as to the "Roland Special" to folks who don't know about it etc. Definitely would love to hear more suggestions for describing this weapon type concisely https://68.media.tumblr.com/c6cf3f83fa0f258c05819739b6abb02a/tumblr_oj8klysB7U1qjtttio1_1280.jpg https://68.media.tumblr.com/40889fe0cbec252a1159e93f57788653/tumblr_ojadff9oH01qjtttio1_1280.jpg "Practical Open" "Carry Comp" Why do they need a name? Why can't they just be cool guns. Right on, keeping it simple. |
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
"Practical Open" "Carry Comp" Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
"Practical Open" "Carry Comp" Dig it! Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Why do they need a name? Why can't they just be cool guns. As for why it needs a name: can't really talk about something without an accurate name. I think "Roland Special" has a good foothold and the new name will become more relevant when the official Roland Specials from ATEi are available. FYI, Roland has retired from the Army and has a training company, "Press Check Consulting" now. Mostly high speed stuff for mil/LE it looks like but I'll definitely jump on the first open enrollment opportunity |
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I'm in the process of getting the parts together to put together a special, and I'm getting hung up on the iron sights. I'm planning to use trijicon, but i'm not sure if I should buy the set that has white dots, no white dots on the rear sight, or the blacked out set. I'm worried that if I go with the all white dots, that combining them with the RMR dot will be distracting to the eye. So does anyone have any suggestions/experience on which set they like best? (I'll also gladly accept pointers/opinions on other night sights)
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Originally Posted By BTooneUSMMA:
I'm in the process of getting the parts together to put together a special, and I'm getting hung up on the iron sights. I'm planning to use trijicon, but i'm not sure if I should buy the set that has white dots, no white dots on the rear sight, or the blacked out set. I'm worried that if I go with the all white dots, that combining them with the RMR dot will be distracting to the eye. So does anyone have any suggestions/experience on which set they like best? (I'll also gladly accept pointers/opinions on other night sights) To go along with this, I'm building a set of bino NVGs (sentinels) and plan to shoot at night using RMR. Would the tritium night sights pose a problem shooting on goggles? I'm of the opinion you should stick to blacked out sights, since they will be handy in day time, or at night with your WML. Professional users have told me they prefer Fibers, but I'm afraid of possibly getting confused with the RMR red dot... Apparently, it's not a problem in execution though? I figure since they are backup sights, getting the cheapest option aint a bad call. Right now i'm sticking with a BALOR, which just has a white dot sight built in. Will probably go with Dawsons when I get the slide milled 
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Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
| I'm of the opinion you should stick to blacked out sights, since they will be handy in day time, or at night with your WML. Professional users have told me they prefer Fibers, but I'm afraid of possibly getting confused with the RMR red dot... Apparently, it's not a problem in execution though? I figure since they are backup sights, getting the cheapest option aint a bad call. Right now i'm sticking with a BALOR, which just has a white dot sight built in. Will probably go with Dawsons when I get the slide milled https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s750x750/sh0.08/e35/15876293_1703622899950467_1326879401060597760_n.jpg I have shot quite a few red dot pistols as well as fiber optic equipped pistols and I have a hard time seeing how you'd confuse the two. They just aren't that similar. To make it really easy you could do a green fiber sight for contrast if it really worried you. |
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P&S inspired me.
My G19 currently sits with: Slide milled by Bruce @ Primary Machine for a Leupy DP Pro Ameriglo GL507 suppressor sights Inforce APL Frame modified by me with the finger grooves removed and the trigger guard under cut, don't feel the need for stippling Suarez low profile mag well On order: Zev match grade threaded barrel tbrci micro comp While not a true roland special, I run a x300U on my duty weapon and didn't want to put another one on my 19. I really like the apl, despite its lowered lumen rating. I greatly prefer the DP pro to the RMR's as well. I'll be exploring holster options for both my battle belt and CCW. Cannot wait to get the thing out on the range and run it hard with some hot ammo. |
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Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
| I'm of the opinion you should stick to blacked out sights, since they will be handy in day time, or at night with your WML. Professional users have told me they prefer Fibers, but I'm afraid of possibly getting confused with the RMR red dot... Apparently, it's not a problem in execution though? I figure since they are backup sights, getting the cheapest option aint a bad call. Right now i'm sticking with a BALOR, which just has a white dot sight built in. Will probably go with Dawsons when I get the slide milled https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s750x750/sh0.08/e35/15876293_1703622899950467_1326879401060597760_n.jpg Tritium lamps bloom too when you try to shoot your RMR through your NV. Still usable but you have to kind of have to adjust your sight picture so the dot sits higher if that makes sense. Thats why I went all black. On a non RMR gun I go front tritium, rear black and use the front lamp as an aiming method under nvgs. |
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Here's my Fauxland "G17" so far I'm thinking of getting the frame cerekoted, and I'm still trying to find the right barrel for it. Anyone know where to find an OEM threaded G17 barrel? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108584/20170108-130609-124803.jpg aren't the factory threaded barrels in goofy metric LH thread pitches? |
So a pal who's an industrial designer and "gun guy" in the military industrial complex slammed together a Fo-land / P&S Special with a MOS Glock 19 in the matter of days. We started carrying Dawson sights right when he slammed together this build.
Totalling everything... dude dropped around $2K for this pistol on the right over the course of 3 days. The owner of the pistol is no stranger to the Roland Special though, since he's actually trained with Roland and tried out the RS under NODs Mine was a lot cheaper since I already had the Glock, threaded barrel, magwell etc. Only real upgraded I had to get was the TBRCi Micro comp (1/2 x 28 threaded comp, fits holsters designed around the KKM combo), and the Balor RMR mount and RM06. A milled or purpose built slide with a lower profile is better, but once I learned how to shoot a red dot pistol (took about a month, an once every other day dry firing or range trips) I find the Balor setup to be just as easy to use. Main benefit of a milled slide setup is that it's a less harsh learning curve since the legacy sighting system is still right there, and the iron sights are full functional. The Balor's backup iron sights have a sight radius of just ~2", so shooting at 25 yards is pretty tough. 15 yards and in is easy Full disclosure: I sell Balor and RMR combos, I do not sell milled slides (yet) |
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Originally Posted By sevin8nin:
aren't the factory threaded barrels in goofy metric LH thread pitches? Originally Posted By sevin8nin:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Here's my Fauxland "G17" so far I'm thinking of getting the frame cerekoted, and I'm still trying to find the right barrel for it. Anyone know where to find an OEM threaded G17 barrel? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/108584/20170108-130609-124803.jpg aren't the factory threaded barrels in goofy metric LH thread pitches? Yup and many people prefer them. They also seem to resist loosening much better than RH threaded barrels. Originally Posted By ak4784:
So I'm skeptical. How well do these comps really work? Is it a noticeable improvement? They work. How well they work depends on the comp and the ammo and caliber shot through it. You can definitely tell the difference. |
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Went with a more low profile version.
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| What barrels are you TBRC comp users using that gets it so close to the slide? I've tried both Lone Wolf and the Alpha Wolf TBRC sells and both leave a gap bigger than most I've seen in this thread that are using TBRC comps. |
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Originally Posted By ozgood03:
What barrels are you TBRC comp users using that gets it so close to the slide? I've tried both Lone Wolf and the Alpha Wolf TBRC sells and both leave a gap bigger than most I've seen in this thread that are using TBRC comps. 
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Originally Posted By ozgood03:
What barrels are you TBRC comp users using that gets it so close to the slide? I've tried both Lone Wolf and the Alpha Wolf TBRC sells and both leave a gap bigger than most I've seen in this thread that are using TBRC comps. Did you try loosening the screws back out and screwing it on. When I went to install mine, I had a big gap too... I unscrewed both screws and it threaded on another 2 full rotations to index perfectly. |
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Originally Posted By BCV:
Did you try loosening the screws back out and screwing it on. When I went to install mine, I had a big gap too... I unscrewed both screws and it threaded on another 2 full rotations to index perfectly. Yep, tried that. Here it is attached to the Alpha Wolf barrel. It has the smallest gap. Attached File |
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| I can get mine right up against the slide I also have to use two rings on mine ...just got me a new holster to run this comp and I guess I should have ordered a G34 length holster.. so no carrying the comp yet LOL ...STUPID ON MY PART not paying attention to minor details in length of it... |
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Originally Posted By Chincy:
Should have my Roland finished up by next week if my slide returns by then. Placed an order with Weapon Outfitters for the RC Freya Magwell and a TBRC Comp. Just need an IWB and an OWB holster and its game on. The VG3 is the best option for an IWB option at this time, IMHO. Will try other offerings when I can, but the simplicity and price of the Vg3 is very hard to beat. Out of stock at our store at the moment but others should have em. We'll have more in a week or so. I'll be at SHOT next week, probably bugging RCS about sending me more VG3s and Roland Special. Maybe I'll bump into "Roland" too and have a chuckle at how popular his EDC has gotten. If you guys haven't yet, definitely check out the Primary and Secondary group on Facebook. An OG cool army guy just posted his comp and light equipped Beretta M92 which was his take on the configuration in the 90s. Here's a Faux-land/P&S Special from ATEI, the first milled slide they put out for the Delta Point Pro 
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Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
The VG3 is the best option for an IWB option at this time, IMHO. Will try other offerings when I can, but the simplicity and price of the Vg3 is very hard to beat. Out of stock at our store at the moment but others should have em. We'll have more in a week or so. I'll be at SHOT next week, probably bugging RCS about sending me more VG3s and Roland Special. Maybe I'll bump into "Roland" too and have a chuckle at how popular his EDC has gotten. If you guys haven't yet, definitely check out the Primary and Secondary group on Facebook. An OG cool army guy just posted his comp and light equipped Beretta M92 which was his take on the configuration in the 90s. Here's a Faux-land/P&S Special from ATEI, the first milled slide they put out for the Delta Point Pro http://68.media.tumblr.com/1b67538502055eb841102f4590a04a2b/tumblr_ojudq1tXXx1qjtttio1_1280.jpg Awesome. My fauxland special is nearly complete. Just waiting on my tbrci comp, which should be here in a few days. The VG3 works that well? I probably unfairly judged it on looks alone. Also, the P&S FB group is secret squirrel closed group, correct? I put in a request a while ago with no luck. |
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Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
The VG3 is the best option for an IWB option at this time, IMHO. Will try other offerings when I can, but the simplicity and price of the Vg3 is very hard to beat. Out of stock at our store at the moment but others should have em. We'll have more in a week or so. I'll be at SHOT next week, probably bugging RCS about sending me more VG3s and Roland Special. Maybe I'll bump into "Roland" too and have a chuckle at how popular his EDC has gotten. If you guys haven't yet, definitely check out the Primary and Secondary group on Facebook. An OG cool army guy just posted his comp and light equipped Beretta M92 which was his take on the configuration in the 90s. Here's a Faux-land/P&S Special from ATEI, the first milled slide they put out for the Delta Point Pro http://68.media.tumblr.com/1b67538502055eb841102f4590a04a2b/tumblr_ojudq1tXXx1qjtttio1_1280.jpg That M9 was awesome, I'd love to see a modern take on that (and am hoping TBRCI develops a more universal style comp). That said, go to P&S for good information, not for a good time. It's very much like lightfighter without the tolerance for shenanigans. |
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For those of you with TBRCi Mini Comps, what barrel are you using?
The Comp works great but I can't get it to stay "straight" on the end of the barrel. It wants to come loose and turn about 15 degree every 6-7 rounds. When I tighten the comp all the way down onto my barrel it's upside down (ports facing down) so I have to back it out a half a turn. I put Loctite on the screws but it still comes loose. Am I supposed to put Loctite on the threaded part of the barrel as well? Right now I have a Lone Wolf threaded barrel but I'll buy anything that will have the comp stay on straight. |
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Originally Posted By TerryGecko:
For those of you with TBRCi Mini Comps, what barrel are you using? The Comp works great but I can't get it to stay "straight" on the end of the barrel. It wants to come loose and turn about 15 degree every 6-7 rounds. When I tighten the comp all the way down onto my barrel it's upside down (ports facing down) so I have to back it out a half a turn. I put Loctite on the screws but it still comes loose. Am I supposed to put Loctite on the threaded part of the barrel as well? Right now I have a Lone Wolf threaded barrel but I'll buy anything that will have the comp stay on straight. I'm using a blacklist industries barrel, I also use two "O" rings on mine to help, maybe try that first as well as using some blue loctite, but let the loctite setup at least 24hrs before you go shooting... |
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Originally Posted By lyodbraun:
I'm using a blacklist industries barrel, I also use two "O" rings on mine to help, maybe try that first as well as using some blue loctite, but let the loctite setup at least 24hrs before you go shooting... OK I will try that. Where did you get your o rings? Did your barrel come with them? |
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Sounds like im not the only one having problems with the microcomp loosening during fire. I am not using an o-ring, so it looks like I need to be for starters. Where do you put it on the barrel, at the end of the threads closest to the muzzle I assume? Also, I have used blue Loctite on mine and let it sit probably 18-20hrs before I went to the range.
When the comp comes loose, it only moves maybe 1/6 of a rotation in either direction so there is sill something keeping it snug enough to not rotate all the way around. Hopefully the o-ring solves my issues. |
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Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
On the left gun, thats a x300U-A with what looks like the newer model switch? Are the A models now available with the new switch and 600 lm lamp? Edit: I guess so... just saw the specs on your site. Fuck me I only went with a B model on my last one for the new switch and lamp. Order placed. BTW the images on the product page show the old switch. |
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Originally Posted By FullMetalAR:
Sounds like im not the only one having problems with the microcomp loosening during fire. I am not using an o-ring, so it looks like I need to be for starters. Where do you put it on the barrel, at the end of the threads closest to the muzzle I assume? Also, I have used blue Loctite on mine and let it sit probably 18-20hrs before I went to the range. When the comp comes loose, it only moves maybe 1/6 of a rotation in either direction so there is sill something keeping it snug enough to not rotate all the way around. Hopefully the o-ring solves my issues. I had this problem for a bit! The way I fixed it was that I degreased the set screws and comp, then used blue Loc-tite to ensure the set screws would stay snug. No o-rings required etc. |
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Originally Posted By ridewaves:
On the left gun, thats a x300U-A with what looks like the newer model switch? Are the A models now available with the new switch and 600 lm lamp? Edit: I guess so... just saw the specs on your site. Fuck me I only went with a B model on my last one for the new switch and lamp. Order placed. BTW the images on the product page show the old switch. Yarp yarp, the newly release A models have the improved switch and output. I'll get new photos on the site monday, thanks for the heads up! |
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For folks who are running the taller Delta Point Pro with Iron Sights and the crazy 0.485" tall front sight required for co-witness, the Bawidamann "Gotham" IWB holster very adaptable and works with it. Like the VG3, it indexes off the X300 and fits almost any pistol that can also mount a X300. Unlike the VG3, it's reholster capable, and a bit more modular, adjutable, etc. Makes good use of the RCS claw the was first used on the Eidolon holsters. |
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