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Posted: 4/26/2022 12:04:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: It does. Your Doctor cut will fit optics like the Burris Fastfire III, J-Point and I think the Vortex Venom. The RMR cut will obviously fit RMRs, but also the SRO and Holosun 403/503. Thanks. Fastfire 3 was already on the shortlist. Would be a lot easier, but Amazon listings don't seem to specify what any individual optic fits. Maybe I just need to dig deeper for information on better retail sources. |
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Posted: 4/26/2022 2:05:30 AM EDT
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IIRC Swampfox has an optic with the Doctor footprint.
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Posted: 4/26/2022 12:31:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HellSpork: Thanks. Fastfire 3 was already on the shortlist. Would be a lot easier, but Amazon listings don't seem to specify what any individual optic fits. Maybe I just need to dig deeper for information on better retail sources. RDS Footprints |
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Posted: 4/27/2022 2:52:05 AM EDT
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Sending two slides off to Nameless based on recomends in this post.
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Posted: 4/27/2022 5:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: I ran into the same problem when I mounted a 507c to my 686. I was going to shim it, but I had a RMR laying around so I decided to try that. The RMR has enough adjustment to get it zeroed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Originally Posted By Stonia: Been watching this thread for a long time. Finally put a Holosun 507c on my 686 using than Allchin mount. Everything mounted up fine, but I've run out of elevation adjustment. Still about 3 inches high at 20 yards. Have a shim ordered, but still. Anyone else ever run into this problem? I ran into the same problem when I mounted a 507c to my 686. I was going to shim it, but I had a RMR laying around so I decided to try that. The RMR has enough adjustment to get it zeroed. Found an plastic shim online advertised as 1 degree for RMR. Perfect fit and brought it down perfectly. Really digging this setup.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2022 6:37:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: Found an plastic shim online advertised as 1 degree for RMR. Perfect fit and brought it down perfectly. Really digging this setup.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20220427_141735_jpg-2364054.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20220427_141728_jpg-2364055.JPG |
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Posted: 4/27/2022 7:26:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2022 7:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: So awesome Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Originally Posted By Stonia: Found an plastic shim online advertised as 1 degree for RMR. Perfect fit and brought it down perfectly. Really digging this setup.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20220427_141735_jpg-2364054.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20220427_141728_jpg-2364055.JPG Agreed, Very Cool Cp |
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Posted: 4/27/2022 11:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stonia: Found an plastic shim online advertised as 1 degree for RMR. Perfect fit and brought it down perfectly. Really digging this setup.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20220427_141735_jpg-2364054.JPG Where did you get the shim from? I liked the 32 moa ring on the 507 for shooting in DA, might switch back to it. |
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Posted: 4/28/2022 9:01:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Where did you get the shim from? I liked the 32 moa ring on the 507 for shooting in DA, might switch back to it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Originally Posted By Stonia: Found an plastic shim online advertised as 1 degree for RMR. Perfect fit and brought it down perfectly. Really digging this setup.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/20220427_141735_jpg-2364054.JPG Where did you get the shim from? I liked the 32 moa ring on the 507 for shooting in DA, might switch back to it. Seems a little pricy at 12 bucks, but works. Saw the same thing on ebay too. |
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Posted: 4/29/2022 7:52:59 AM EDT
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My new Staccato P showed up last night. Haven't shot it yet but got the RMR and PL350 mounted up.
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Posted: 4/29/2022 3:05:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Real_PhillBert: My new Staccato P showed up last night. Haven't shot it yet but got the RMR and PL350 mounted up. https://i.postimg.cc/Wb7RScmP/20220428-204622-1.jpg oof 
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Posted: 4/29/2022 4:04:43 PM EDT
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RMR and Dawson plate came in for my Staccato P, now I need to go sight it in.
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Posted: 4/29/2022 7:51:33 PM EDT
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Red dot all the things.
 Attached FileThe Beretta is a 92FS that I scored a 92X RDO slide and a Doctor mount for. It's getting a Burris Fastfire III in a couple weeks. |
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Posted: 5/1/2022 1:16:06 PM EDT
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@11boomboom what is on the muzzle of your 320? Optic? Wilson grip?
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Posted: 5/1/2022 3:46:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dump1567]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Holdemdown: @11boomboom what is on the muzzle of your 320? Optic? Wilson grip? Not 11boom, but that is a Wilson Grip frame and a Herrington Arms Comp. They'll also fit in the longer frames. HC320 SIG P320 COMPENSATOR (Pic from Herrington Arms website) 
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Posted: 5/1/2022 9:34:39 PM EDT
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What sort of groups you guys getting with your gen 5 g19 oem barrels at 25Y?
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Posted: 5/2/2022 7:09:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: What sort of groups you guys getting with your gen 5 g19 oem barrels at 25Y? I haven’t measured in a while. I do know this, it’s better than I am capable. This weekend I was doing the Modern Samurai drill from this thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/My-Path-Toward-the-Modern-Samurai-Black-Belt-Standards/4-202954/ I know 2 shots on the timer is no way indicative of accuracy - however I think the Gen5s are no slouches. This is a screen grab from that drill from my 25 yard target. This is typical of my bone stock Gen 5  Attached File Attached FileIf time allows me, today I’ll try to go out and shoot a proper 5 shot group. Foo, and the other people in this thread, you should check the Samurai thread out and participate. There’s a good group of shooters over there! Don’t worry, I’m the guy that breaks the ice for failure so no one feels bad!  The drill isn’t overly ammo intensive and it gets you out shooting! |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 8:28:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Not 11boom, but that is a Wilson Grip frame and a Herrington Arms Comp. They'll also fit in the longer frames. HC320 SIG P320 COMPENSATOR (Pic from Herrington Arms website) https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0071/5928/3801/products/IMG_20211202_154240_653_720x.jpg?v=1638801253 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Originally Posted By Holdemdown: @11boomboom what is on the muzzle of your 320? Optic? Wilson grip? Not 11boom, but that is a Wilson Grip frame and a Herrington Arms Comp. They'll also fit in the longer frames. HC320 SIG P320 COMPENSATOR (Pic from Herrington Arms website) https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0071/5928/3801/products/IMG_20211202_154240_653_720x.jpg?v=1638801253 This exactly. Herrington Arms 3-port compensator. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 8:55:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: What sort of groups you guys getting with your gen 5 g19 oem barrels at 25Y? Most of the gen 5 Glocks that I have personally owned and zeroed, or helped others zero (which I do frequently) will shoot Gold Dot 124 standard pressure at 1 3/4 inch or better- The worst I can recall was maybe 2.5 inches, but the vast majority will shoot 2" or better. Obviously this is done off of a rest, 5 round confirmation groups with admittedly occasionally eliminating the blatantly obvious human error oops shot. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 9:02:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: Most of the gen 5 Glocks that I have personally owned and zeroed, or helped others zero (which I do frequently) will shoot Gold Dot 124 standard pressure at 1 3/4 inch or better- The worst I can recall was maybe 2.5 inches, but the vast majority will shoot 2" or better. Obviously this is done off of a rest, 5 round confirmation groups with admittedly occasionally eliminating the blatantly obvious human error oops shot. thanks. These groups are gen 5 vs gen 3 shot off a rest with RMR and blazer brass 147 and 115. The gen 5 groups are pretty meh compared to the gen 3. Im tempted to throw a different barrel in it but want to test some other ammo first to make sure it's not just blazer. Im thinking KKM. Group size written above target  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 9:20:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Marksman14]
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Going to have to dig deep, but I know I have a few photos of zeroing targets......All of these will be 25 yards- if a gun shoots obviously in one direction, I dont bother shooting more than a round or two, hey, gold dot is expensive...These are NOT 10 round groups, this is not scientific, just an example of what I've come across and remembered to photograph.
My latest Sig 320 4.7 which is a bit of a freak; obvious adjustments made, obvious flyer at some point as well, but it shoots as tight as my staccatos  My other few 4.7s are closer to 1 3/4-2, and my 3.9 barrels all struggle to shoot better than 2.5 Attached FileThis was a friend's G19 with holosun- the far right shot was absolutely induced by me, though still a good group even with it:  Attached FileStaccato P- upon setting up, it was shooting right and a touch high- the shots to the right were obvious, so I moved left- the group above the center was a few rounds before I moved it down a few clicks- point is, those groups are separate.  Attached FileMy old G17.5  Attached FilePretty sure this was one of my G19.5, and I wouldn't be surprised if I shot a few and made a click or two down because im stingy, but either way this would have been totally acceptable for a "final" zero.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 9:24:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Marksman14]
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Staccato C2, shot right, adjusted just a tad far to the left, and yes, that leftward bias was corrected with a click or two to the right, so that final group with as many shots are in there is with adjustments to get it centered- staccato's have all been super accurate. (once again excuse the obvious flyer....)
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Posted: 5/2/2022 9:31:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: @marksman14 thanks. These groups are gen 5 vs gen 3 shot off a rest with RMR and blazer brass 147 and 115. The gen 5 groups are pretty meh compared to the gen 3. Im tempted to throw a different barrel in it but want to test some other ammo first to make sure it's not just blazer. Im thinking KKM. Group size written above target https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113559/74B01A9E-8DA5-4038-B542-3D10E46AAB75_jpe-2369504.JPG Honestly, for Blazer Im not surprised. Usually when Im zeroing a pistol, I use whatever range ammo I have on hand to get it close and then I switch to the duty ammo, which again is gold dot 124 standard pressure. I've been absolutely amazed with the accuracy from that loading, and it shoots really really well out of pretty much every pistol I've zeroed at 25 yards. Modern pistols and modern ammo are impressive. My Sig 320's absolutely HATE 115 ball ammo- Ive found its almost not worth wasting it trying to shoot a group- I'll generally get 4-5" or so with it. The Glocks shot it a little better to the point I could actually get meaningful data from it, staccatos shoot basically anything pretty well. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 9:46:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marksman14: Honestly, for Blazer Im not surprised. Usually when Im zeroing a pistol, I use whatever range ammo I have on hand to get it close and then I switch to the duty ammo, which again is gold dot 124 standard pressure. I've been absolutely amazed with the accuracy from that loading, and it shoots really really well out of pretty much every pistol I've zeroed at 25 yards. Modern pistols and modern ammo are impressive. My Sig 320's absolutely HATE 115 ball ammo- Ive found its almost not worth wasting it trying to shoot a group- I'll generally get 4-5" or so with it. The Glocks shot it a little better to the point I could actually get meaningful data from it, staccatos shoot basically anything pretty well. HST 124 HST 147 American Eagle 124 American Eagle 147 Federal Champion 115 Blazer Brass 115 Blazer Brass 147 Lawman 124 Federal Syntec 150 If this Gen 5 can't give me some sub 2.5 inch groups at 25 with some other ammo, I will think about replacing it. Any suggestions? KKM seems to be the top recommendation. My Gen 3s shoot the lights out, FWIW. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 12:16:33 PM EDT
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My bet is the HST 124 will shoot really well in it.
Unfortunately its been a while since I've looked at aftermarket glock barrels, but I'd be shocked if KKM wouldn't give you what you're looking for. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 12:29:10 PM EDT
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Comprehensive posts, @marksman14 !
Thanks, now I won’t have to go out in the rain and shoot some groups!  I found that my G19 likes the hot stuff, 9BPLE and Winchester 124 PDX +Ps. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 4:10:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dump1567]
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Just added a larger frame and threaded barrel. As a lefty, I don't like ambi slide locks and chopped mine off. Always seem to hit it with my thumb.
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Posted: 5/2/2022 4:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Just added a larger frame and threaded barrel. As a lefty, I don't like ambi slide locks and chopped mine off. Always seem to hit it with my thumb. https://i.imgur.com/pMEuirg.jpg You know, as a lefty I find my high grip bumping the ambi slide release on my G5 - 45 all-the-time.  At first I thought the gun wasn't holding open on the last round. Now I know my grip is the problem. So, more range time and dry fire I suppose. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 4:50:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Just added a larger frame and threaded barrel. As a lefty, I don't like ambi slide locks and chopped mine off. Always seem to hit it with my thumb. https://i.imgur.com/pMEuirg.jpg Anyone know why sig widened/expanded the right side of the serial number window? The early models had a rectangular window IIRC, and now it's like an L on its side. It serves no purpose I can fathom... |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 4:51:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcculver5: You know, as a lefty I find my high grip bumping the ambi slide release on my G5 - 45 all-the-time. At first I thought the gun wasn't holding open on the last round. Now I know my grip is the problem. So, more range time and dry fire I suppose. Like my Sig above, I cut off my right side slide stops on my G45 & Gen 5 17. I got tired of trying to readjust my grip. I shot guns for years without ambi’s. I don’t need them. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 5:17:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Like my Sig above, I cut off my right side slide stops on my G45 & Gen 5 17. I got tired of trying to readjust my grip. I shot guns for years without ambi’s. I don’t need them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dump1567: Originally Posted By mcculver5: You know, as a lefty I find my high grip bumping the ambi slide release on my G5 - 45 all-the-time. At first I thought the gun wasn't holding open on the last round. Now I know my grip is the problem. So, more range time and dry fire I suppose. Like my Sig above, I cut off my right side slide stops on my G45 & Gen 5 17. I got tired of trying to readjust my grip. I shot guns for years without ambi’s. I don’t need them. That may be the solution. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 7:04:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcculver5: That may be the solution. They’re replaceable if you don’t like it. On the Sigs using the X series grips I can use that ledge as a thumb rest without worrying about the slide lock. On most guns with ambi’s, I find I just don’t get slide lock on an empty mag. On the 320’s, I was engaging the slide lock when shooting hotter SD rounds. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 7:36:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcculver5: That may be the solution. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcculver5: Originally Posted By dump1567: Originally Posted By mcculver5: You know, as a lefty I find my high grip bumping the ambi slide release on my G5 - 45 all-the-time. At first I thought the gun wasn't holding open on the last round. Now I know my grip is the problem. So, more range time and dry fire I suppose. Like my Sig above, I cut off my right side slide stops on my G45 & Gen 5 17. I got tired of trying to readjust my grip. I shot guns for years without ambi's. I don't need them. That may be the solution. |
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Posted: 5/2/2022 10:55:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Thanks for the science and I will take your advice. I have the following ammo I can test out: HST 124 HST 147 American Eagle 124 American Eagle 147 Federal Champion 115 Blazer Brass 115 Blazer Brass 147 Lawman 124 Federal Syntec 150 If this Gen 5 can't give me some sub 2.5 inch groups at 25 with some other ammo, I will think about replacing it. Any suggestions? KKM seems to be the top recommendation. My Gen 3s shoot the lights out, FWIW. Dude, get a KKM! Also, G3 vs G5, has anyone noticed the recoil absorption is better with the Gen 5, but more prone to reliability issues such as weak cycling when shooting one handed? Just me? I kind of think the Gen 3 is better in this regard although the perceived recoil is greater. |
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Posted: 5/3/2022 12:57:26 PM EDT
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Nameless Armament received my G17 slides on Friday and they sent me an email confirming receipt that day. Today I received an email with a picture showing the two RMRs installed on the slides and they are being shipped back today.
Can't get much faster turnaround than that! |
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Posted: 5/4/2022 6:30:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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After 2.5 years of working remote I have to go back into office (occasionally) starting next month.
As a way to temper the sting, I bought a KKM barrel. So look forward to testing that out in next 2 weeks in my gen 5 (and also shooting the FAMQ!) Fun fact - I called KKM and they said despite the fact that have different skus, the gen 1-4 and gen 5 kkm barrel for the g19 are actually identical. |
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Posted: 5/4/2022 10:39:47 AM EDT
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Which suppressor sites do yall recommend for a Glock 19 gen 5 mos with Trijicon RMR cc ?
I am more than ready to take the plunge with usable iron sights. 
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Posted: 5/4/2022 10:55:36 AM EDT
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Ameriglo gL-429
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Posted: 5/4/2022 11:32:23 AM EDT
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This thread makes me want to send my P-01 slide to Cajun for an RMRCC cut.
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Posted: 5/4/2022 12:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Ameriglo gL-429 Thank you. Those look nice...real nice. 
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Posted: 5/6/2022 10:30:27 AM EDT
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My latest red dot set-up. M17 (factory Delta Point Pro cut) with Forward Controls Design RMR plate.
When you remove the cover plate on the M17/M18’s you lose the rear sight and the slide does not have a rear dovetail. What’s cool about the Forward Controls RMR plate is it has a dovetail at the rear to install a standard style rear sight. Truglo suppressor height sights and a type 1 RMR RM01 with Battlewerx anti flicker plate. This RMR has been floating between guns, it originally was piggybacked on an ACOG. It’s just temporary and I’m thinking about trying out a Holosun 507C to replace it. 
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Posted: 5/6/2022 11:28:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Fun fact - I called KKM and they said despite the fact that have different skus, the gen 1-4 and gen 5 kkm barrel for the g19 are actually identical. I was about to post this. I needed a threaded bbl for my 19.5 and bought a Glock oem gen 4 as I don't care for the gen 5 bbl. I'm not having accuracy issues, I just don't like the polygonal/land combination. Only reason the marksman bbl exist is for the FBI contract, they requested it as polygonal barrels are notoriously hard to trace. Glock spun it as an improvement, which it is not. |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 11:55:40 AM EDT
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This thread is very interesting.
I've got a basic question: Glock Gen5, 19 MOS. Using a Forward Controls mounting plate Trijicon RMR Type 2, 3.25 moa. If the RMR is turned off (dark) can the factory iron sights be use? If the RMS is turn on, where will the dot sit in the screen in relation to the iron sights? |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 1:08:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SkiandShoot: This thread is very interesting. I've got a basic question: Glock Gen5, 19 MOS. Using a Forward Controls mounting plate Trijicon RMR Type 2, 3.25 moa. If the RMR is turned off (dark) can the factory iron sights be use? If the RMS is turn on, where will the dot sit in the screen in relation to the iron sights? No, your sights are to low. You need taller suppressor height sights. I can't answer the second question, but most irons will be in the lower section of your window. |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 1:23:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Ameriglo gL-429 @Fooboy would these be lower third with RMR? |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 1:42:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Real_PhillBert: My new Staccato P showed up last night. Haven't shot it yet but got the RMR and PL350 mounted up. https://i.postimg.cc/Wb7RScmP/20220428-204622-1.jpg Love the new grip texture. |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 1:43:23 PM EDT
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This is on a Battlewerx mill job with rear irons fw.
Dot off / using irons:  Attached FileDot on, ignoring irons:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2022 9:01:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2022 11:01:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Shooting my custom 92FS tomorrow. I can't wait. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/20220505_183341_jpg-2374577.JPG Speaking from personal experience here, and my RDS wasn't nearly as high as yours is. |
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