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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2012 3:39:53 PM EST
[#1]
More interesting release from Marine Corps Times:
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2012/07/marine-corps-marsoc-new-colt-45-caliber-pistols-071912/ "While fundamentally unchanged since its inception, the weapon does use the company’s newer series 80 firing system developed during the 1980s to increase safety by adding a firing pin block that prevents the discharge of a live cartridge if the gun is dropped or banged. The weapon Colt submitted for this contract competition includes a dual recoil spring assembly, meant to reduce recoil. It was furnished in a desert tan color and featured a Cercoat finish designed to reduce reflection and prevent corrosion. The pistol also features more stainless steel parts, which should help it withstand the harsh environments where special operations and reconnaissance Marines operate — particularly in and around saltwater. It’s not immediately clear whether Colt’s final prototype also includes all these flourishes." |
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Posted: 7/19/2012 9:55:38 PM EST
[#2]
duel spring eh? hmmm, ok color me intrigued.
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Posted: 7/19/2012 11:05:26 PM EST
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I love how this thread is going to come to life again with the new developments
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USA
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Posted: 7/20/2012 9:11:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: JSGlock34]
[#4]
Originally Posted By R0N:
Examples of test failure http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Framecrackonleftsideofpistol.jpg Frame crack on left side of pistol http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Crackrearwardofbarrellugofpistol.jpg Barrel crack rear of lug http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/viewofbarrelrearwardoflug10000roundsfiredpriortoblownbarrelclassthreefailure.jpg Blow barrel after 10,000 rounds. R0N - were these the Colts or the SA? Looks like other issues besides cracked slides. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2012 10:23:19 PM EST
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Ive never seen a dual spring for a 1911, anybody used one before or have any pictures? only dual iv seen is on the gen4 glock 17 I sold...
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Posted: 7/20/2012 10:31:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By garretts1776:
Ive never seen a dual spring for a 1911, anybody used one before or have any pictures? only dual iv seen is on the gen4 glock 17 I sold... I imagine its like the dual spring in the delta elite 10mm |
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Posted: 7/20/2012 11:53:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1911smith]
[#7]
Originally Posted By DannyGlover:
Can someone explain why the government is spending 22.5 million on 4000 colt rail guns Over $5000 a piece seems a bit of a markup Read details again. I knew there would be confusion. The initial contract is for 4000 pistols. It's an open-end contract....... With potential up to 22.5 million. It doesn't quarantee there to be orders past initial 4000 pistols. If not total expenditure based on unit price of $1000.00 doesn't look like to me with support parts to add to more than half mil. Remember, there's still an open ended contract with Beretta. Further reading would lead me to believe this a stop gap order on the way to something else. That said. I'm 48 & would bet a weeks pay the M45 to be in service long after I'm gone. |
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Posted: 7/21/2012 5:07:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JSGlock34:
Originally Posted By R0N:
Examples of test failure http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Framecrackonleftsideofpistol.jpg Frame crack on left side of pistol http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Crackrearwardofbarrellugofpistol.jpg Barrel crack rear of lug http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/viewofbarrelrearwardoflug10000roundsfiredpriortoblownbarrelclassthreefailure.jpg Blow barrel after 10,000 rounds. R0N - were these the Colts or the SA? Looks like other issues besides cracked slides. These were the Colts that won |
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Posted: 7/21/2012 5:10:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 1911smith:
Originally Posted By DannyGlover:
Can someone explain why the government is spending 22.5 million on 4000 colt rail guns Over $5000 a piece seems a bit of a markup Read details again. I knew there would be confusion. The initial contract is for 4000 pistols. It's an open-end contract....... With potential up to 22.5 million. It doesn't quarantee there to be orders past initial 4000 pistols. If not total expenditure based on unit price of $1000.00 doesn't look like to me with support parts to add to more than half mil. Remember, there's still an open ended contract with Beretta. Further reading would lead me to believe this a stop gap order on the way to something else. That said. I'm 48 & would bet a weeks pay the M45 to be in service long after I'm gone. The CQBP won't have the M45 designation so those will all be back at Albany in the next 4 years, that aside assuming the average mortality age of an American male, I can guarantee you that they will be gone by than. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/22/2012 1:01:31 PM EST
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RON,
If the new Colt's won't have the M45 designation, can you tell us what they will be named? Also, could you provide us with the expected service life of these frames? As I wrote in a earlier post, it is mind boggling to think that some of these frames will still be in front line service long after some of us have reached our expected service life! |
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PHL
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Posted: 7/22/2012 2:10:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GunnyG:
Any ideas on whose pistols these are, and where these pistols are being used? With all that bling, and the camo pattern, I want to point out that we are looking at the Phillipine Marines. Perhaps imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.... I did find the larger image that shows our Force Recon on Clark Air Base, doing some training with/for the Phillipino Marines, but I wouldn't say that those are definitively our pistols being used: http://www.marines.mil/units/hqmc/PublishingImages/051018-M-9336C-004.jpg Gunny, I was thinking the same thing. They do look like members of the Philippine Marines (physical features and uniform). If correct, then it is true that some of the equipment / firearms they may be using in that photo may have come from the US. However, knowing how things are here in the Philippines, there is a possibility that the pistol Augee pointed out in the picture may not be an original (in whole or in part) or in its original configuration. While the rule is that any government issued firearms should never be modified, that rule is often violated. |
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Posted: 7/22/2012 2:49:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: R0N]
[#12]
Originally Posted By HudsonLion:
RON, If the new Colt's won't have the M45 designation, can you tell us what they will be named? Also, could you provide us with the expected service life of these frames? As I wrote in a earlier post, it is mind boggling to think that some of these frames will still be in front line service long after some of us have reached our expected service life! It is the CQBP, close quarters battle pistol, to differentiate it from the PWS and COTS purchases that were the M45. The need and selection of this weapon was based on "old time" recon types still in the Marines (ones a retired GS-15 who works the program), in a few years when all those guys are gone chances are the operating forces will not take them out because they are heavier, don't have a common 5 or 9 block. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/22/2012 5:12:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: HudsonLion]
[#13]
Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By HudsonLion:
RON, The need and selection of this weapon was based on "old time" recon types still in the Marines (ones a retired GS-15 who works the program), in a few years when all those guys are gone chances are the operating forces will not take them out because they are heavier, don't have a common 5 or 9 block. The 1911 is too heavy?????????????????????? That is absolutely hilarious. Maybe you can throw in, "It's to old" or has "To many switches and gadgets" on it next. I'm not the biggest guy out there but I can run a 1911 quite proficiently and carry the damn thing plus everything else they throw at me. You're obviously very knowledgable about the procurement program and the USMC but "It's too heavy" is just mind boggling. Army SF teams still run this platform, still do maintenance on this platform and still provide ammunition for this platform. Are you, as a "MARINE" telling me that you can't outdo a deployed SF team? If I wasn't a gentlemen, I'd copy the "It's to heavy" comment and e-mail it to my friends still attached to my old employer, the United States Army. I guess that nonsense about being "Army Strong" makes one able to carry weapons that Paris Island graduates aren't capable of carrying. Maybe MARSOC takes them out to play only in the States. Ok, fine, that's all they do. Using the awesomeness of the internet, I located so many photos of Recon and MARSOC downrange with 1911s that I wondered if I was looking at photos from 1944. As for outing employees working on a program-Stay Classy San Diego. |
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Posted: 7/22/2012 6:16:25 PM EST
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Wow.
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Posted: 7/22/2012 6:17:16 PM EST
[#15]
Are you a Marine? Have you ever carried a combat load to the field? Have you ever work with an Marine Special Operations Team?
Just so you know, I am a current active duty Marine officer, who happens to work at what is colloquially known as Headquarters Marine Corps and have done both the latter. This program is a joke to everyone who knows anything about it, there was a reason it has taken 13 years from the RFP to today, because unlike the internet the 3 Star operation officer(s) for the Marine Corps got real numbers on performance standards and how well the weapons actually worked and several of them have killed it numerous times. But one of the big problems with the GS employees is they just wait out the Officer who made the decision they didn't like for the next. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2012 7:13:19 PM EST
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This thread baffles me.
the USMC committed to buying 4,000 1911s. They did not commit to issuing every Marine a 1911. If the tests were screwed up, that's a different question. there are lots of people on this sub forum who shoot a 1911 better than any other pistol. I'm sure that's the case for a percentage of Marines. Let them have their little sample, and see how it goes! |
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USA
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Posted: 7/22/2012 8:40:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By R0N:
Are you a Marine? Have you ever carried a combat load to the field? Have you ever work with an Marine Special Operations Team? Just so you know, I am a current active duty Marine officer, who happens to work at what is colloquially known as Headquarters Marine Corps and have done both the latter. This program is a joke to everyone who knows anything about it, there was a reason it has taken 13 years from the RFP to today, because unlike the internet the 3 Star operation officer(s) for the Marine Corps got real numbers on performance standards and how well the weapons actually worked and several of them have killed it numerous times. But one of the big problems with the GS employees is they just wait out the Officer who made the decision they didn't like for the next. 1) No 2) I'm a quiet professional 3) #2 It is understood that you are a Marine Officer and that you work at HQ, as you have shared this information before. It seems that we are going down the road of a measurement contest. I respect your personal feelings toward the decision and viewpoint that it was not worthwhile. Unfortunately, it seems that you were outvoted by those who wear the ties and the uniforms. There are always those that are not happy when a decision is made. Let's see how the field receives the new equipment. I wish you, MARSOC/Force Recon, Colt and the USMC the best with you future sidearm. Just to poke a little fun, if you boys at the USMC need some help with NEW 1911s, give the Army a call. The Colt's they have might not be from this century but they make it work. |
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Posted: 7/22/2012 9:53:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Geohans:
This thread baffles me. the USMC committed to buying 4,000 1911s. They did not commit to issuing every Marine a 1911. If the tests were screwed up, that's a different question. there are lots of people on this sub forum who shoot a 1911 better than any other pistol. I'm sure that's the case for a percentage of Marines. Let them have their little sample, and see how it goes! WMs sir, .45ACP is too much recoil so the M9 will live on forever! |
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Posted: 7/23/2012 3:48:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HudsonLion:
Originally Posted By R0N:
Are you a Marine? Have you ever carried a combat load to the field? Have you ever work with an Marine Special Operations Team? Just so you know, I am a current active duty Marine officer, who happens to work at what is colloquially known as Headquarters Marine Corps and have done both the latter. This program is a joke to everyone who knows anything about it, there was a reason it has taken 13 years from the RFP to today, because unlike the internet the 3 Star operation officer(s) for the Marine Corps got real numbers on performance standards and how well the weapons actually worked and several of them have killed it numerous times. But one of the big problems with the GS employees is they just wait out the Officer who made the decision they didn't like for the next. 1) No 2) I'm a quiet professional 3) #2 It is understood that you are a Marine Officer and that you work at HQ, as you have shared this information before. It seems that we are going down the road of a measurement contest. I respect your personal feelings toward the decision and viewpoint that it was not worthwhile. Unfortunately, it seems that you were outvoted by those who wear the ties and the uniforms. There are always those that are not happy when a decision is made. Let's see how the field receives the new equipment. I wish you, MARSOC/Force Recon, Colt and the USMC the best with you future sidearm. Just to poke a little fun, if you boys at the USMC need some help with NEW 1911s, give the Army a call. The Colt's they have might not be from this century but they make it work. I would actually had less of an issue if they did that, but buying potential acquisition item that failed service testing, but than the manufacturer is allowed to redo the test on their own and that is accepted? I may not be an acquisitions professional but I am a program manager and that screams all kinds of impropriety. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2012 7:38:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: Tac56]
[#20]
Wow... I just spent 4 hours reading 25 pages of this thread and was informed and entertained for the duration.. That has never happened to me before... Why isn't this sticky'ed, pinned or what ever? I never thought that I would find such a detailed and well documented thread that has gone on this long.... Then it ends with a Marine vs. Army pissing contest.... Really? I'm former Army myself, but really? I thought this was about the pistol...
Last time I checked, we all bleed the same color.... Irrespective of which branch of the service you serve. OP... Thank you for the most interesting Internet read I've had in years. -Tac |
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USA
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Posted: 7/25/2012 5:43:07 PM EST
[#21]
Originally Posted By R0N:
The CQBP won't have the M45 designation so those will all be back at Albany in the next 4 years, that aside assuming the average mortality age of an American male, I can guarantee you that they will be gone by than. R0N - will the Colts receive the M45A1 designation? What we know as the MEU(SOC) M45 as discussed in this thread will be completely removed from service? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2012 8:02:11 PM EST
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Well, I shot the 1911A1 in Boot Camp in 85, carried it on duty throughout my time as an 0311 (Marine Barracks Guam to start with 86-87) and then many a day as Duty NCO or A-Duty. One thing I knew about those old beat to shit pistols was that even if I couldn't hit the Sumbitch with the damn thing I could still beat the fuck out of him with that hunk of steel. Later, when I carried a Beretta with the POS 115gr. Ball round, I remember thinking, if I hit the guy and he didn't die, I could still beat the fuck out of him, but it was not gonna be as quick and I might just fuck up the gun in the process.
I have been shooting 1911's (pops has 2) since I was a kid, first with an 22lr Ace Conversion and later with 230 ball, my favorite practice round, and all I can say is Thank God the Corps has a real fuckin sidearm again. Although, I really want an Ed Brown Kobra Karry! |
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USA
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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:47:31 AM EST
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I was finally able to get in touch a friend that is heavily involved in MARSOC/Force Recon to confirm a few things. As we've heard, the MEUSOC or M45 pistols will be removed from service as the new CQBP comes on line. Let's see who can spot the first CQBP pistol downrange!
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MT, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2012 8:43:36 PM EST
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Saw this on www.foxnews.com just a bit ago. Not entirely accurate, but goes along with what the other links are saying.
Fox News article online. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2012 6:08:04 PM EST
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Finished my MEU(SOC).45 now onto the Colt Rail Gun.
http://www.readycitizen.com/gallery/meusoc45/meusoc45-with-surefire-mr07-mount-and-x300-light.jpg |
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Posted: 7/30/2012 7:34:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Shawnmt6601]
[#26]
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend
gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/30/2012 9:20:03 PM EST
[#27]
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 nice job! I was wondering when someone would come out with something like this to show what the gun can do. I imagine you were pretty damn tired...and broke 
On a side note, has anybody seen reports on why the rail gun was selected over the SA Operator? I always thought they were pretty evenly matched guns (and want them both...) so I would like to see the corps reason for picking one over the other |
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USA
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Posted: 7/31/2012 3:58:51 AM EST
[#28]
Awesome article you wrote!!!
You mentioned you replaced the barrel. Why is that? Is 14k rounds too much for that barrel? What barrel are you using now? Colt barrel? Thank you! Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 4:13:43 AM EST
[#29]
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 Interesting, but the portion in the write up about "The specs on testing show freezing the colt to 25 below for hours then heating to 100 degree then shooting and scraping ice off with knives." is not correct the testing was done in 4 phases 5,000 rounds at standard ambient (77 ± 18°F), 1,000 rounds at -25°F, 3,000 rounds at 120°F, and 3,000 additional rounds at standard ambient (77 ± 18°F) There was no freeze to heat testing down and all the testing at other than ambient was in a controlled temp lab with the test weapons placed in the lab for 3 hours hours prior to shooting. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/31/2012 7:34:21 AM EST
[#30]
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 Nice to see someone putting their gun, ammo & money where their mouth is! It would be interesting to see someone go out and buy a brand new Colt Rail Gun today and start punishing it and reporting back via a blog. |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 7:43:47 AM EST
[#31]
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 Good stuff Shawn! Wish I had your ammo budget. One thing though, you wrote " This is pretty harsh testing considering no service side arm would have anything like this happen or be shot that much." The part in red is exactly wrong, and why the MEU(SOC)S/M45s are being replaced- the pistols literally get shot apart during workups and deployments and the PWS can't keep up with the demand. Purchasing a ready to go replacement with product support is why this contract exists (and has been evolving for over a decade as RON has pointed out). |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/31/2012 11:05:59 AM EST
[#32]
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 Nice write up and I'm not surprised in the least that your slide is still in one piece. |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 7:52:09 PM EST
[#33]
Originally Posted By Den40:
Awesome article you wrote!!! You mentioned you replaced the barrel. Why is that? Is 14k rounds too much for that barrel? What barrel are you using now? Colt barrel? Thank you! Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 I replaced the barrel because I had one. it is a colt NM barrel same as came with it It still shot pretty decent, but I had over 14K through it, so why not? as for the comments about the abuse. I got that info from a source on the web that appeared legit and I will change it when I find a source that proves what I wrote wrong. No offense RON, not arguing with you , its just what I got to work with. SSERIC I may have not been clear. I meant nothing would be frozen, then heated, then have 4000 rounds through it in one day. That was what I meant by no service pistol being used like thay My editor sometimes "fixes" my articles in a way he thinks I mean. usually late at night when I am done and I dont check it. I am glad to clear that up. i did not realize it was not clear yes I am tired. My hands hurt. I rubbed my thum raw and I burned myself a few times I had been buying that ammo for the last 7 years though it is all WWB 230 grain ball
I did do a quick test for accuracy with the last 5 rounds, It was still pretty nice. but I was so tired and worn out and shaking I didnt feel it was reliable or could be trusted. Thats why i didnt show the group in a picture or talk about it here is a pic of the last few rounds I tiredly shot just to see. I aimed at the little black circle thingie, It was about 15 yards and I was tired. but that group was shot after a midge over 14,000 rounds have went through the gun 
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:39:59 PM EST
[#34]
Gotcha, I'm tracking with you now Shawn, I jsut read it differently than you wrote it.
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:48:53 PM EST
[#35]
Outstanding read. Nicely done.
I've only pushed mine to a thousand in one day. After 500 rounds it's just not fun anymore, last 500 is work. White dots are grey dots after 500. After 300 I would take breaks so I wasn't getting burned. I'm still using same barrel after 20,000 rounds. Slide and frame are shot loose enough I can see slide move back and forth on rails. Pistol has been run dry most of the time, when cleaned rails get a light film of Tetragrease. Anyways, it's just getting broke in at 20,00. Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:51:30 PM EST
[#36]
Originally Posted By SSeric02:
Gotcha, I'm tracking with you now Shawn, I jsut read it differently than you wrote it. no no, I think I am to blame for it not being clear. i will clear it up in a bit. I am no W B Yeats 
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:54:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1911smith:
Outstanding read. Nicely done. I've only pushed mine to a thousand in one day. After 500 rounds it's just not fun anymore, last 500 is work. White dots are grey dots after 500. After 300 I would take breaks so I wasn't getting burned. I'm still using same barrel after 20,000 rounds. Slide and frame are shot loose enough I can see slide move back and forth on rails. Pistol has been run dry most of the time, when cleaned rails get a light film of Tetragrease. Anyways, it's just getting broke in at 20,00. Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 My slide to frame did get more loose but the barrel lock up was still amazingly tight. Surprised me. But it was very tight from the factory when I go it. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 12:48:43 AM EST
[#38]
Same here, lock up is tight.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2012 6:23:17 PM EST
[#39]
Shawn, I read your piece on Looserounds; damn! Good job, man. That took a lot of dedication (and time, and money, and ammo, and pain, and...) So thank you for jumping on that grenade for all the rest of us.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2012 6:24:49 PM EST
[#40]
Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
just fired 4000 rounds through my rail gun this weekend gun had 10K through it before I started http://looserounds.com/2012/07/30/colt-rail-gun-4000-round-test/ http://looserounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/0087.jpg?w=300&h=224 Interesting, but the portion in the write up about "The specs on testing show freezing the colt to 25 below for hours then heating to 100 degree then shooting and scraping ice off with knives." is not correct the testing was done in 4 phases 5,000 rounds at standard ambient (77 ± 18°F), 1,000 rounds at -25°F, 3,000 rounds at 120°F, and 3,000 additional rounds at standard ambient (77 ± 18°F) There was no freeze to heat testing down and all the testing at other than ambient was in a controlled temp lab with the test weapons placed in the lab for 3 hours hours prior to shooting. Sir, Perhaps not the exact thread into which to posit this question, but I didn't know of a better one off the top of my head. That said, were the tests for this order of pistols similar to the tests of the M9 candidate weapons? If so, how did those weapons fare in testing? If not, how did the tests differ? |
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Posted: 8/3/2012 9:34:20 PM EST
[#41]
Originally Posted By Brett_Bass:
Shawn, I read your piece on Looserounds; damn! Good job, man. That took a lot of dedication (and time, and money, and ammo, and pain, and...) So thank you for jumping on that grenade for all the rest of us. Thanks for reading it Brett. Glad you enjoyed it. trying to settle nerves and stop over reacting is why i did it. I had no idea it would be so grueling. but thats why we started that website. Hope you keep coming back |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2012 12:25:24 AM EST
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Well i have a pretty virgin Rail Gun with only about 50 down the pipe. If everyone wants to send me the ammo I'll abuse it until it dies.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 9:29:58 PM EST
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Im going to test the original 14,000 plus barrel for accuracy tomorrow now that my hands have healed up a little. See how it still does. I plan on shooting it out to 50 yards and if does OK trying it out to 100 just to see what happens
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/6/2012 8:47:51 PM EST
[#44]
I just got finished reading the latest issue of Guns & Ammo "The Complete Book of the Model 1911" the Cooper edition there is a 7 page article titled M45 CQBP . What really stuck out was the claim that some of the Kimber DET-1 guns had reliability issues and some catastrophic failures. and after DET-1 was disbanded in 2006, all of the Kimber DET-1 pistols were Destroyed so they could not be rebuilt into meusoc 1911's as in the case of the few Proffesional models in service. I wish I was onee of the lucky guys who were able to get one of the few kimber contract overruns. their value will probably really skyrocket now!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2012 1:41:41 PM EST
[#45]
I would bet serious money against you on that. They were probably mothballed, not destroyed. That would be throwing a ton of money down the drain. Also I never read of "catastrophic failures" with the ICQB...
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2012 2:46:52 PM EST
[#46]
Hey I hear you,i'm not the reporter. that is what is written in the magazine article.
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USA
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Posted: 8/21/2012 4:49:44 AM EST
[#47]
Has anyone had any success in finding a source for the PWS rear sight? I ordered three Millett rear sights from Sarco, and I plan on reshaping them. Has anyone else attempted this?
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/26/2012 12:08:11 AM EST
[#48]
not mine but Heads up on 15 m1911a1 frames,including a ghd colt and an ithaca and many springfield frames on www. gunbroker.com the seller goes by the name 31b40 type in 302243734 and click on his all other items. they all should make some good meusoc builds.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 12:20:01 AM EST
[#49]
none of 'em have rails though.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 12:29:56 AM EST
[#50]
Originally Posted By Snaps: none of 'em have rails though. Less parts to split off. |
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