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Originally Posted By tsg68: I think after the Kimber Warriors (ICQB) were dropped they were interim replaced with Springfield Pros Originally Posted By tsg68: I think after the Kimber Warriors (ICQB) were dropped they were interim replaced with Springfield Pros 
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Originally Posted By 03RN: IDK but there are pics of custom carry slides with front slide serrations milled through the slide markings 
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Econo-MEUSOC blaster... just can't beat the price on the NM loaded models.... add a drop in harrison hammer/sear trigger job, refit the thumb safeties, lanyard MSH, pac grips, and a high vis front sight... then alumhyde the bushing and barrel...makes for a solid shooter that I've run against other custom builds... Attached File |
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Where are you having issues with fit? Do the pin holes not line up, or does the rear edge of the MSH not mate well with the frame?
I’ve tried everything from Caspian and S&A to flattening an arched GI. Each option has had its issue. Based on what I have seen, finding a USGI flat MsH and serrating it yourself may suit you the best. Not aware of any off the shelf options that look the part. |
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Originally Posted By Jake0326:
Im currently a Recon Marine who also happens to be a gun nut (I know, go figure  ) Ive only been in since 2012 so Ive only ever heard about the MEUSOC and how much better it is than our COLT CQBPs that I'm used to shooting. Of course you become numb to the "back in my day" shit and learn to ignore it after a while but being the gun nut I am Ive always been curious of the MEUSOC pistols to see if they actually do live up to the hype. So I just PCSed earlier this year to 1st Bn from Force Company at 3rd in Oki and had been hearing rumors around the unit that we still had some MEUSOCs hiding in our H&S company armory and thought it was just typical LCPL underground bullshit. But when one of my younger team guys told me he actually got to fire one at a random range he did with H&S, I had to go see if he was full of shit or not. Low and behold, we have somewhere upwards of 70 of these bad boys stashed away in the armory only seeing the light of day if I had to guess once every year if not every two years... The slide fit, trigger pull, barrel fit, everything feels better than our shot out colts(they get abused). Unfortunately I only got to dry fire it but Im going to have to figure out a way to get these out to one of our upcoming ranges, shouldn't be too hard with the senior enlisted (who also had no idea we had them) being fanboys of these guns too. So the Civilian Marksmanship Program is in the process of legalizing the sale of surplus Army 1911s to the public, we need to find a way to make sure these pistols find their way into this program and not allow Marine DRMO send them off to be melted down. Anyway, here are some pics of the one I handled
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4487/23889479248_53e90889ce_c.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4475/37742334671_9111a783f2_c.jpg 1) That's awesome that those still exist. 2) What is it with Marine units constantly keeping stuff like this? I keep seeing DMRs, older model M40s and whatnot. How does nobody care that these aren't getting turned in? |
I'm thinking about having some FCS done on my MEUSOC-inspired DW, and possibly a KC ambi-safety. What do you guys think, angled or straight FCS? I've seen a MEUSOC pistol on the internet, I can't remember where, with straight rear serrations and added angled FCS (possible a WWII or early Caspian slide?). Also, is it possible to treat/coat the fresh cut FCS without parkerizing the whole thing? I might just go ahead and do it right and parkerize the whole gun. The gun in question:
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Originally Posted By BlackNoSugar:
I'm thinking about having some FCS done on my MEUSOC-inspired DW, and possibly a KC ambi-safety. What do you guys think, angled or straight FCS? I've seen a MEUSOC pistol on the internet, I can't remember where, with straight rear serrations and added angled FCS (possible a WWII or early Caspian slide?). Also, is it possible to treat/coat the fresh cut FCS without parkerizing the whole thing? I might just go ahead and do it right and parkerize the whole gun. The gun in question: https://i.imgur.com/Mt0u1zV.jpg If was me....Id get all the work done and take it to the range a few times then once I was happy with it, send it out for nitride. |
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Originally Posted By bzpowder:
At a minium you'll need to re-parkerize the slide and odds are it wont match the frame. Will it drive you bonkers if they dont match? If was me....Id get all the work done and take it to the range a few times then once I was happy with it, send it out for nitride. |
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Originally Posted By BlackNoSugar:
I'm thinking about having some FCS done on my MEUSOC-inspired DW, and possibly a KC ambi-safety. What do you guys think, angled or straight FCS? I've seen a MEUSOC pistol on the internet, I can't remember where, with straight rear serrations and added angled FCS (possible a WWII or early Caspian slide?). Also, is it possible to treat/coat the fresh cut FCS without parkerizing the whole thing? I might just go ahead and do it right and parkerize the whole gun. The gun in question: https://i.imgur.com/Mt0u1zV.jpg |
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Originally Posted By samuse: I wouldn't do it because you don't have a very close to clone pistol now and adding FCS is not going to make it any closer. The front cocking serrations are not going to match perfectly, especially after the slide is blasted and reparked. True MEU pistols have angled serrations because the new slides were part of the upgrade package. |
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I think your pistol looks better than a true clone anyway because I prefer the original cocking serrations. If you wanted to get closer to something built, but not a program pistol, put in a Bar-Sto barrel (blued), Ed Brown grip safey, Ed Brown wide ambis, Novak sights. |
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I’ll have to get better pictures, but I “talked” a buddy at work into “meusoc cloning” his Loaded.
He wanted some work done on it anyways, and I had him send it to Evolution Armory. The installed a barsto match barrel and had it blackened. Cylinder and slide ignition set and trigger. Ed Brown wide ambi thumb safety. Caspian slide stop, fps, extractor. S&A mainspring housing with lanyard loop. Ed Brown guide rod and plug. Slotted grip screws. He did get the correct pach wrap around grips, but also got some laminate ones as he had the front strap checkered and had the gun dehorned. They did great work and it look awesome. Attached File |
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Question about some of the pics posted here in reference to rack numbers and deciphering them. I understand the principle behind them, but don’t understand some of the pictures I see. One says “stop”, one uses letters, one is marked o or zero dash 1. Any idea what any of these mean?
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Originally Posted By Pony151515:
Question about some of the pics posted here in reference to rack numbers and deciphering them. I understand the principle behind them, but don't understand some of the pictures I see. One says "stop", one uses letters, one is marked o or zero dash 1. Any idea what any of these mean? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310114/64DD7119-B3B9-41D4-AC79-A12A67D84B9E_jpeg-788064.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310114/23EE5EC6-6F77-4A2B-B6C1-3940A8C23FF5_jpeg-788065.JPG Just a guess, as I assumed each individual Marine kept the same pistol for an entire workup/deployment and needed to ID their pistol easily. |
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Originally Posted By Dunderway:
I had noticed that a while back too. I assumed it was initials or last names. Maybe not "stop" but "Stof" or "Stob"? Just a guess, as I assumed each individual Marine kept the same pistol for an entire workup/deployment and needed to ID their pistol easily. |
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Originally Posted By 12345678: HOLY CRAP 1) That's awesome that those still exist. 2) What is it with Marine units constantly keeping stuff like this? I keep seeing DMRs, older model M40s and whatnot. How does nobody care that these aren't getting turned in? I need to toss up a pic of my home built meusoc clone. I worked with a 2112 in a 3 shop as an armorer and have the complete parts list, nsn numbers and parts # for all the components we were using circa 2004 ish. I have parts for two more guns that I bought while in that I need to build. I’m going to do a 4MEF MEUSOC build on my next one and have it parked once I finish fitting it... Because fighting 4th! |
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Originally Posted By samuse:
I think your pistol looks better than a true clone anyway because I prefer the original cocking serrations. If you wanted to get closer to something built, but not a program pistol, put in a Bar-Sto barrel (blued), Ed Brown grip safey, Ed Brown wide ambis, Novak sights. We were using Barstows in the white in 04-06. One thing I see online that differs from the guns we serviced is the serial number stamping. Every 1911 I saw in the Corps has the sn stamped on the slide and barrel of the rt side. I even saw some with the last 2 digits stamped on the saftey... the units we serviced had a modernized combat hammer, not shown in the pics below/above. People don’t want to hear that 2112s had an open account with brownells/cylinder and slide, etc. this lead to a number of “not clone specific “ guns put in service. We sent 100 recoil buffers to one unit. I’d never put one in my gun... |
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Originally Posted By Dunderway:
I had noticed that a while back too. I assumed it was initials or last names. Maybe not "stop" but "Stof" or "Stob"? Just a guess, as I assumed each individual Marine kept the same pistol for an entire workup/deployment and needed to ID their pistol easily. |
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Ok, here’s my parts bin for the next 2 builds. I have tried to show vendor and part # where I can. Also, my update to the meusoc. I had to have that magwell be integral, so it’s not a true clone. I finished it and recently fixed my grip saftey that is awaiting a duracoat finish to match the rest. Only fde/ od gun I’ve seen...
https://imgur.com/a/aKiKxaM https://imgur.com/a/OkKgpYD 
https://imgur.com/a/1V8qQbU 
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Originally Posted By lb6r:
As a dude who racked them, that kind of marking (stop) looks like a unit or individual level marking. It more than likely means it failed pmcs ( didn’t gauge) or was deadlined while deployed and they didn’t want it shot. Stateside, that would simply be dropped to a 3 shop. The rack #s just follow each units racking order and the way the numbers are picked and drawn are individual. I did a temp deployment to a unit with 1k “new” m16a2s. I was also the lucky guy who got to rack mark them... yea, Home Depot stencil and od paint with rack # at the top of the butstock where it could be read in the rack. That was my criteria. |
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Originally Posted By bovw:
I’ve been thinking about changing the safety on my NM Loaded to the Ed Brown R892. It seems to have been discontinued. Any leads? I’ll be sending the barrel and bushing to KC to be blackened at some point, as well as adding the C&S ignition kit. Like this one. |
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Originally Posted By civgunner:
It looks like people are using the EB 892-MATCH on more recent clones. Like this one. |
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I have had a meusoc build planned for years, and am finally at a point where i have the resources at work to do it and can actually pay for stuff now . I have been looking around lately to try and source a USGI frame to use, but they are pretty much nonexistent and I dont want to chop up a good full gun. I am going for a variant 4, just based on availability of parts. I tried to do a search via the site on google, but couldnt find the answer to this. Were the caspian frames used with springfield slides? I am not a super fan of the aesthetics of the caspian slides. Was looking at doing a caspian frame/SA slide. Or would I be better served just buying a SA Loaded and building off that, with the appropriate parts? Thanks doods. |
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Adjustable sights on a MEU (SOC)? I was watching a video about Guns of the Commandos. They were shooting what they said was a MEU (SOC) 1911 with what appeared to be a S&W type sight.
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Originally Posted By accurange:
If anyone is looking to build a speck M4a1 carbine to go with their spec meusoc builds, www.charliescustomclones.com has US Govt property marked m4a1 complete carbines and lowers forsale. |
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Originally Posted By FrankW134:
You can do much better buying those guns from other vendors, shouldn't cost more than $1399. His price for the AR15A4 is absolutely insane, that's a $1k gun elsewhere and not hard to find. Originally Posted By FrankW134:
Originally Posted By accurange:
If anyone is looking to build a speck M4a1 carbine to go with their spec meusoc builds, www.charliescustomclones.com has US Govt property marked m4a1 complete carbines and lowers forsale. |
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Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
I have had a meusoc build planned for years, and am finally at a point where i have the resources at work to do it and can actually pay for stuff now .I have been looking around lately to try and source a USGI frame to use, but they are pretty much nonexistent and I dont want to chop up a good full gun. I am going for a variant 4, just based on availability of parts. I tried to do a search via the site on google, but couldnt find the answer to this. Were the caspian frames used with springfield slides? I am not a super fan of the aesthetics of the caspian slides. Was looking at doing a caspian frame/SA slide. Or would I be better served just buying a SA Loaded and building off that, with the appropriate parts? Thanks doods. |
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Originally Posted By JPD158:
IMHO just buying a Springfield Loaded is the way to go for a base gun. C&S ignition kit, Ed Brown safety, BarSto barrel,Maynard MSH and Pachmyer grips and your damn close. Originally Posted By JPD158:
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
I have had a meusoc build planned for years, and am finally at a point where i have the resources at work to do it and can actually pay for stuff now .I have been looking around lately to try and source a USGI frame to use, but they are pretty much nonexistent and I dont want to chop up a good full gun. I am going for a variant 4, just based on availability of parts. I tried to do a search via the site on google, but couldnt find the answer to this. Were the caspian frames used with springfield slides? I am not a super fan of the aesthetics of the caspian slides. Was looking at doing a caspian frame/SA slide. Or would I be better served just buying a SA Loaded and building off that, with the appropriate parts? Thanks doods. Springfields loaded models are the bomb bang for buck |
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Originally Posted By cone256:
Keeping with the Springfield Loadeds. This will eventually be turned into a clone, just working on other projects at the moment. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/214520/20180719_084402-612515.jpg |
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So I just acquired an original Colt 1911A1 frame (stripped). Wanting to build it up as a MEUSOC clone. Unsure what variant to make. In addition, I'm leery about grinding off the horns to accommodate the Ed Brown safety. Any close options that won't require re-contouring the frame? I'm in no hurry. Time will be taken with this project.
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Originally Posted By carmodyh:
Agreed. Honestly, the ed brown grip safety isn't as comfortable as the the stock Springfield in my opinion. Ed brown thumb safety as well. Tried one but the ambi dig into my index finger knuckle. Springfields loaded models are the bomb bang for buck Originally Posted By carmodyh:
Originally Posted By JPD158:
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
I have had a meusoc build planned for years, and am finally at a point where i have the resources at work to do it and can actually pay for stuff now .I have been looking around lately to try and source a USGI frame to use, but they are pretty much nonexistent and I dont want to chop up a good full gun. I am going for a variant 4, just based on availability of parts. I tried to do a search via the site on google, but couldnt find the answer to this. Were the caspian frames used with springfield slides? I am not a super fan of the aesthetics of the caspian slides. Was looking at doing a caspian frame/SA slide. Or would I be better served just buying a SA Loaded and building off that, with the appropriate parts? Thanks doods. Springfields loaded models are the bomb bang for buck  After all these years some fucking idiot at Springfield decided to change the rollmarks on us. So much for starting a clone. I’m really not a fan, I already emailed them complaining about it.Attached File |
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