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Originally Posted By mlin: U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Allen Rhee, a radio operator with Force Reconnaissance Platoon, Maritime Raid Force (MRF), aims an M45A1 pistol during marksmanship training and qualification at Camp Hansen, Okinawa, Japan, Feb. 16, 2017. MRF specializes in amphibious reconnaissance; vessel Visit, Board, Search and Seizure (VBSS) operations; and limited combat operations as the reconnaissance element for the 31st MEU. As the Marine Corps' only continuously forward-deployed unit, the 31st MEU’s air-ground-logistics team provides a flexible force, ready to perform a wide range of military operations, from limited combat to humanitarian assistance operations, throughout the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Jorge A. Rosales) https://i.imgur.com/xlr4cnT.jpg The following one is interesting. USMC marked slide with Ionbond finish side by side with other Cerakote finished pistols. The photo was taken last year, appeared that some units continue to use those old Cerakote M45A1 in deployment instead of turn in for newer Ionbond finished pistols. PACIFIC OCEAN (May 24, 2019) Marines assigned to 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) fire Colt 1911 M45A1 close-quarters battle pistols on the flight deck of amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4) during a small arms gun shoot. The Boxer Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) are deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations to support regional stability, reassure partners and allies, and maintain a presence to respond to any crisis ranging from humanitarian assistance to contingency operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class John Luke McGovern) https://i.imgur.com/OU9w9qN.jpg Glad to see them still getting some use. Wearing my 31st MEU shirt today 
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Originally Posted By mlin: The following one is interesting. USMC marked slide with Ionbond finish side by side with other Cerakote finished pistols. The photo was taken last year, appeared that some units continue to use those old Cerakote M45A1 in deployment instead of turn in for newer Ionbond finished pistols. PACIFIC OCEAN (May 24, 2019) Marines assigned to 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) fire Colt 1911 M45A1 close-quarters battle pistols on the flight deck of amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4) during a small arms gun shoot. The Boxer Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) are deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations to support regional stability, reassure partners and allies, and maintain a presence to respond to any crisis ranging from humanitarian assistance to contingency operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class John Luke McGovern) https://i.imgur.com/OU9w9qN.jpg That CMC 10 rnd Power Mag in full effect |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: Glad to see them still getting some use. Wearing my 31st MEU shirt today Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By mlin: U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Allen Rhee, a radio operator with Force Reconnaissance Platoon, Maritime Raid Force (MRF), aims an M45A1 pistol during marksmanship training and qualification at Camp Hansen, Okinawa, Japan, Feb. 16, 2017. MRF specializes in amphibious reconnaissance; vessel Visit, Board, Search and Seizure (VBSS) operations; and limited combat operations as the reconnaissance element for the 31st MEU. As the Marine Corps' only continuously forward-deployed unit, the 31st MEU’s air-ground-logistics team provides a flexible force, ready to perform a wide range of military operations, from limited combat to humanitarian assistance operations, throughout the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Jorge A. Rosales) https://i.imgur.com/xlr4cnT.jpg The following one is interesting. USMC marked slide with Ionbond finish side by side with other Cerakote finished pistols. The photo was taken last year, appeared that some units continue to use those old Cerakote M45A1 in deployment instead of turn in for newer Ionbond finished pistols. PACIFIC OCEAN (May 24, 2019) Marines assigned to 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) fire Colt 1911 M45A1 close-quarters battle pistols on the flight deck of amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4) during a small arms gun shoot. The Boxer Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) are deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations to support regional stability, reassure partners and allies, and maintain a presence to respond to any crisis ranging from humanitarian assistance to contingency operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class John Luke McGovern) https://i.imgur.com/OU9w9qN.jpg Glad to see them still getting some use. Wearing my 31st MEU shirt today They are still at all the Recon Battalions and get used heavily - getting replaced before the end of this year though by the M18. Gonna miss the M45A1. I know it had some issues initially but I really like shooting it, and havent had any of the problems associated with it. |
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Originally Posted By mlin: U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Allen Rhee, a radio operator with Force Reconnaissance Platoon, Maritime Raid Force (MRF), aims an M45A1 pistol during marksmanship training and qualification at Camp Hansen, Okinawa, Japan, Feb. 16, 2017. MRF specializes in amphibious reconnaissance; vessel Visit, Board, Search and Seizure (VBSS) operations; and limited combat operations as the reconnaissance element for the 31st MEU. As the Marine Corps' only continuously forward-deployed unit, the 31st MEU’s air-ground-logistics team provides a flexible force, ready to perform a wide range of military operations, from limited combat to humanitarian assistance operations, throughout the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Jorge A. Rosales) https://i.imgur.com/xlr4cnT.jpg The following one is interesting. USMC marked slide with Ionbond finish side by side with other Cerakote finished pistols. The photo was taken last year, appeared that some units continue to use those old Cerakote M45A1 in deployment instead of turn in for newer Ionbond finished pistols. PACIFIC OCEAN (May 24, 2019) Marines assigned to 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) fire Colt 1911 M45A1 close-quarters battle pistols on the flight deck of amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4) during a small arms gun shoot. The Boxer Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) are deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations to support regional stability, reassure partners and allies, and maintain a presence to respond to any crisis ranging from humanitarian assistance to contingency operations. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class John Luke McGovern) https://i.imgur.com/OU9w9qN.jpg Badass!!!! |
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Originally Posted By 5pt56: @Infidel4life11 What wear? https://i.imgur.com/txzsEBK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Abceuyh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6jWh3IL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NawevTV.jpg 
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"A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it."
"A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it."
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Originally Posted By Parabellum226: Looks like GS5414’s old blaster. If so, have you done anything to it since? I think he left off with around 35k round through it. I couldn't confirm or deny but if it were the only thing done since was another 10k rounds added to the count. Of course all normal appropriate maintenance as required. ICQB in the works! There must have been trigger work done to this because it is amazballs! @Infidel4life11 
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Looking a Gen 1 PRI Gas buster charging handle.
Looking a Gen 1 PRI Gas buster charging handle.
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-Things do not happen. Things are made to happen. -JFK
-Beware the fury of a patient man.
-Thousands and thousands of laws....All for just ten commandments.
-"alot" is not a word.
-Beware the fury of a patient man.
-Thousands and thousands of laws....All for just ten commandments.
-"alot" is not a word.
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: Are the Caspian R42FBL MSH out of production or just out of stock? Website says "product not available". What would be an acceptable replacement? KC's Kustom has the parts you needed. https://kcskustomcreations.com/product/mainspring-housing/ |
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Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids: So what’s the best kimber to use as a base for ICQB build? Classic custom. Classic customs are “70series” guns without the extra safety parts of the custom II or other “II” Kimber models. The actual Kimber ICQB-P didn’t have the extra safety parts.  
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Retired Army OIF/OEF No one will know the violence it took to become this gentle
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
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Originally Posted By Lawdog-1: Who makes a Reproduction the Dawson Light Rail for the 1911 / Kimber ICQB DET-1 Clone build? Grizzly Custom |
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11: Classic custom. Classic customs are “70series” guns without the extra safety parts of the custom II or other “II” Kimber models. @infidel4life11 Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Schwartz parts removable? My understanding is that any II model can be turned into a Series 70. I ask because I haven't purchased my base gun yet and don't want to have buyer's remorse. |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @infidel4life11 Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Schwartz parts removable? My understanding is that any II model can be turned into a Series 70. I ask because I haven't purchased my base gun yet and don't want to have buyer's remorse. The Schwartz parts are foreign to me and I can’t speak on removing them or how they function because I haven’t messed with it. From what I understand the USMC were delivered the Classic Custom style (70series) Guns they didn’t have the Schwartz parts and weren’t designed for the Schwartz parts. USMC was delivered basically mine and 5pt56 gun without the ejection port side markings. The Schwartz are different from the colt style 80series Looks like they can be removed without issue.  However my brother I know you’ve had a long journey with this clone and I want it to workout for you and you love it as much as we do. So to that I highly recommend you get the Classic Custom model as a base gun. They “usually” are a tad more expensive than custom II but it’s worth it. Me and 5pt56 stole ours off Gunbroker. @Pleaforwar |
Retired Army OIF/OEF No one will know the violence it took to become this gentle
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @infidel4life11 Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Schwartz parts removable? My understanding is that any II model can be turned into a Series 70. I ask because I haven't purchased my base gun yet and don't want to have buyer's remorse. IIRC, the Schwartz safety parts are removable. Some people just install a series 70 firing pin to disable the Schwartz safety system. See link below. https://www.1911forum.com/threads/removal-of-schwartz-safety.199032/ |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @infidel4life11 @yojimbo Thanks gents! Appreciate the comments. You're welcome! By the way here's a pic of my Series 1 with the Clackamas, OR roll mark. Serial number is 12xx. I was told that the the serial numbers started at 1000 and went to 7400 or so for the Clackamas, OR marked ones. So mine is one of the first couple of hundred made. It won't be a true ICQB clone when I am done but it will be close. I've already installed a newer Kimber bump grip safety and a Kimber ambi thumb safety on it. I will probably go with Heinie Straight Eight Ledge night sights instead of the Novaks. I am still not sure if I want to put a Dawson light rail on it or not. 
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@tsailor I remember you mentioning you were interested in the M45A1 - Primary Arms shows them in stock - https://www.primaryarms.com/colt-1911-cqbp-marine-m45-acp-pistol-desert-tan-7-round |
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Originally Posted By Yojimbo: You're welcome! By the way here's a pic of my Series 1 with the Clackamas, OR roll mark. Serial number is 12xx. I was told that the the serial numbers started at 1000 and went to 7400 or so for the Clackamas, OR marked ones. So mine is one of the first couple of hundred made. It won't be a true ICQB clone when I am done but it will be close. I've already installed a newer Kimber bump grip safety and a Kimber ambi thumb safety on it. I will probably go with Heinie Straight Eight Ledge night sights instead of the Novaks. I am still not sure if I want to put a Dawson light rail on it or not. Nice! I like the "inspired by" MEUSOC pistols out there. Please post then you're finished. |
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Finally got to put some rounds down range with my build. Only 50 rounds (thanks 2020) but everything worked as expected. We were stuck on a 100yd steel plate range so no paper targets to show, but I was able to hit steel at distance. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: Finally got to put some rounds down range with my build. Only 50 rounds (thanks 2020) but everything worked as expected. We were stuck on a 100yd steel plate range so no paper targets to show, but I was able to hit steel at distance. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/204956/FullSizeR1_jpg-1653170.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/204956/meusoc_jpg-1653194.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/204956/meusoc2_jpg-1653197.JPG awesome man! who did your build? |
"I do what I want" - Abu Hajar
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Also, about to order some parts from kc custom to do a couple of retro builds using some springfield milspecs as base guns. ive shopped around for some folks to do the work and am currently in VA, has anyone used sams custom gunworks recently? Or have any recommendations on who to use? Thanks as always. Been out of the meusoc game a while and now jumping back in ;) |
"I do what I want" - Abu Hajar
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@carmodyh Thanks man. Dave Fink (Finks Custom Gunsmithing) in Prescott, AZ built it. ETA - Regarding builds, general consensus around here seems to be to go with Valor Precision or KC's. KC won't do "supply your own parts" builds, btw. |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @carmodyh Thanks man. Dave Fink (Finks Custom Gunsmithing) in Prescott, AZ built it. ETA - Regarding builds, general consensus around here seems to be to go with Valor Precision or KC's. KC won't do "supply your own parts" builds, btw. Thanks for the info man! And thanks for sharing your build. |
"I do what I want" - Abu Hajar
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Spent the weekend with Valor Precision at a range event doing gun things. When guns weren’t breaking, I was watching him work on pistols. Here are some of a meusoc getting worked on. Mine Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File ETA: not sure how to unass the photo orientations |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: @carmodyh Thanks man. Dave Fink (Finks Custom Gunsmithing) in Prescott, AZ built it. ETA - Regarding builds, general consensus around here seems to be to go with Valor Precision or KC's. KC won't do "supply your own parts" builds, btw. Seconded. Valor is working on mine and a buddy’s guns at the moment. Haven’t held the finished product yet (obviously) but the willingness to help and communicate are awesome so far. He has been fielding my questions since January without ever as much a complaint. |
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Originally Posted By Parabellum226: Seconded. Valor is working on mine and a buddy’s guns at the moment. Haven’t held the finished product yet (obviously) but the willingness to help and communicate are awesome so far. He has been fielding my questions since January without ever as much a complaint. What are you using as a base gun? Any idea on how long it will take to be completed? |
-Things do not happen. Things are made to happen. -JFK
-Beware the fury of a patient man.
-Thousands and thousands of laws....All for just ten commandments.
-"alot" is not a word.
-Beware the fury of a patient man.
-Thousands and thousands of laws....All for just ten commandments.
-"alot" is not a word.
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: What are you using as a base gun? Any idea on how long it will take to be completed? I’m using a Caspian frame and Springfield loaded slide. He got mine in early September, and I know the slide and frame have been fit, but I haven’t really asked about turnaround. I’ll let him do his magic and enjoy the updates as they come. |
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Originally Posted By Pleaforwar: Finally got to put some rounds down range with my build. Only 50 rounds (thanks 2020) but everything worked as expected. We were stuck on a 100yd steel plate range so no paper targets to show, but I was able to hit steel at distance. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/204956/FullSizeR1_jpg-1653170.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/204956/meusoc_jpg-1653194.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/204956/meusoc2_jpg-1653197.JPG Likes the shit out of this |
Retired Army OIF/OEF No one will know the violence it took to become this gentle
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
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Originally Posted By carmodyh: Thanks for the info man! And thanks for sharing your build. Originally Posted By Engineer5: What are you using as a base gun? Any idea on how long it will take to be completed? I’m going to jump in here and plug Nick from Valor Precision. He completed my Meusoc in about 90days or so. Used a clapped out Springfield loaded as my base gun and honestly I couldn’t be happier, tightest 1911 I own. Later I got a loaded slide and Caspian frame for him to do A full variant 4 build but ended up working out a deal on an other build. He’s currently completing my full house custom build. Then he’ll get my Kimber icqb to finish out. I’ve got enough work to keep him busy for a while.  
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Retired Army OIF/OEF No one will know the violence it took to become this gentle
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
NEEDED: Surefire 310r, Dawson Rail for 1911, Caspian or Series 70 frame
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11: I’m going to jump in here and plug Nick from Valor Precision. He completed my Meusoc in about 90days or so. Used a clapped out Springfield loaded as my base gun and honestly I couldn’t be happier, tightest 1911 I own. Later I got a loaded slide and Caspian frame for him to do A full variant 4 build but ended up working out a deal on an other build. He’s currently completing my full house custom build. Then he’ll get my Kimber icqb to finish out. I’ve got enough work to keep him busy for a while. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/6CD09773-79FA-4649-ADD6-39DB66492A4F-1557273.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/86D4E2F9-7FA4-4892-9519-B406EDA68317-1533159.jpg That 310R flex  I’ll likely start with a variant 2 and straight mainline my way into a caspian build. |
"I do what I want" - Abu Hajar
| Dumb question, do y’all just cannibalize a loaded model to source a slide or just hunt them down one by one? I’ve bought GI and Mil-Spec slides before but haven’t seen loaded slides that often, but I may not have searched long enough. Love all these variant 4s. |
"I do what I want" - Abu Hajar
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Originally Posted By carmodyh: Dumb question, do y’all just cannibalize a loaded model to source a slide or just hunt them down one by one? I’ve bought GI and Mil-Spec slides before but haven’t seen loaded slides that often, but I may not have searched long enough. Love all these variant 4s. Loaded slides are hens teeth online. Come to the dark side and go Variant 2 and request FCS from your smith.
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Originally Posted By carmodyh: Dumb question, do y’all just cannibalize a loaded model to source a slide or just hunt them down one by one? I’ve bought GI and Mil-Spec slides before but haven’t seen loaded slides that often, but I may not have searched long enough. Love all these variant 4s. I’m getting ready to order a Caspian frame, and will be using the slide off my Loaded. I’ll probably get another slide to put on the Loaded frame to have another usable 1911. |
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Loaded slide by itself rarely appeared in auction sites for sale. But luckily, the complete loaded pistol is not to0 expensive to acquire and probably can be had even cheaper in used condition. The frame is great for custom project too. Another trivial thing to consider: If you want more true-to-spec appearance, make sure you use older Loaded slide with "MODEL 1911-A1 CAL.45" marking. The current production loaded has simplified slide marking "Loaded" that was never used by Marines.   |
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Originally Posted By mlin: Loaded slide by itself rarely appeared in auction sites for sale. But luckily, the complete loaded pistol is not to0 expensive to acquire and probably can be had even cheaper in used condition. The frame is great for custom project too. Another trivial thing to consider: If you want more true-to-spec appearance, make sure you use older Loaded slide with "MODEL 1911-A1 CAL.45" marking. The current production loaded has simplified slide marking "Loaded" that was never used by Marines. https://i.imgur.com/TzPhp6p.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/KtsBuEg.jpg I am normally a fan of simple roll marks, but they should have stayed with the old style in my opinion. Not only was it pretty simple as is, it's history, for no other reason than the M45, was something that gave it an added cool factor. |
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Originally Posted By carmodyh: Dumb question, do y’all just cannibalize a loaded model to source a slide or just hunt them down one by one? I’ve bought GI and Mil-Spec slides before but haven’t seen loaded slides that often, but I may not have searched long enough. Love all these variant 4s. I was lucky enough to find a take-off. A friend also found one but it was stainless (his gun is all stainless so no real issue there). Haven’t seen very many at all. |
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