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Posted: 8/26/2024 10:01:06 PM EDT
https://www.ammoland.com/2024/08/police-officer-shows-ignorance-of-gun-laws-on-live-tv/

Daytona Beach Cop Proves He Doesn't Know The Law Live On National TV


Over the weekend on Friday, the Reelz show “On Patrol Live” broadcasted an officer from the Daytona Beach Police Department (DBPD) in Florida pulling over a car, believing it might be stolen. Although the officer could not prove the car was stolen, the officer was informed that a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 pistol was in the back of the vehicle.

“On Patrol Live” is a rebranding of the former A&E show “Live PD.” “Live PD” was pulled off the air due to anti-police sentiment after the killing of George Floyd during an encounter with law enforcement. The show went on hiatus for a while before being relaunched on the Reelz TV Network as “On Patrol Live.” The show features several police departments across the country broadcasting a live feed of law enforcement activities for a captivated TV audience.

The presence of the pistol led Daytona Beach Police Officer Chris Marr to detain the driver because he was 20 years old. The officer informed the driver it was illegal for him to own a pistol because he was under 21 and stated he was going to jail. The problem is that the officer was wrong and threatened to arrest someone falsely.
Under federal law, a gun owner must be 21 to buy a pistol from a federal firearms licensee (FFL). Under Florida law, a gun buyer must be 21 to buy a gun from an FFL. Neither Florida nor the federal government have any law against someone under 21 from owning a pistol. In fact, Florida doesn’t have universal background checks (UBC), which means an 18-year-old could purchase a gun from a private sale.

The young man’s father tried to inform Officer Marr that owning the gun was not against the law. Instead of verifying the statute for the ownership of pistols, the Daytona Beach Police officer threatened the father with arrest. After much pressure, the driver was forced to say that the gun was not his. He was under the impression that if he admitted to being the pistol’s owner, then he would be going to jail. The police confiscated the pistol even though there was no evidence that the gun was illegally owned or stolen.

The in-studio panel made up of law enforcement officers surmised that the man might be facing federal prison time for owning a pistol under the age of 21. The panel was comprised of a mixture of active and former law enforcement officers. The fact that they didn’t know the law was shocking. AmmoLand News contacted several lawyers to ensure the law enforcement officers were wrong. We were informed that the officers were grossly misinformed about federal and state laws. One lawyer was shocked that the DBPC officer didn’t know the state or federal law on the age at which one can own a pistol.

AmmoLand News spoke to Gun Owners of America (GOA) Florida State Director Luis Valdes about what transpired. Mr. Valdes is a former law enforcement officer who watched a replay of the interaction on TV. He pointed to a lack of training and was angered by how quickly the officer rushed to assume that a law existed that prevented a 20-year-old man from owning a firearm.

“It is a travesty that, once again, Floridians had their rights violated by Daytona Beach Police,” Valdes said. “As a former LEO myself, I am angered at the lack of training and understanding some officers in Florida have toward the Second Amendment. Nowhere in Florida’s convoluted legal system does it state an adult under 21 cannot legally own a firearm. But it appears that Ofc. Chris Marr of DBPD thinks such a law exists. This isn’t the first time that DBPD screwed over a Florida gun owner. Just recently, the agency illegally arrested a resident for openly carrying on his own property while protecting his daughter from an aggressive pit bull! It appears that Daytona Beach isn’t a safe place for gun owners.”


Immediately after the interaction, AmmoLand News contacted the media contact from the DBPD via email, phone calls, and text. We wanted to know if Officer Marr has been corrected on the law and how the department will ensure its officers will not repeat the same mistake. As of Sunday night, AmmoLand News has not gotten a response. AmmoLand News also contacted “On Patrol Live,” but our request for comment was ignored.

On Saturday, the show “On Patrol Live” did not mention the encounter. This encounter shows the dangers of police encounters when the officers do not know the law.


Link Posted: 8/26/2024 10:58:50 PM EDT
[#1]
No prisoners!

Break it off.
Link Posted: 8/27/2024 8:11:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/27/2024 8:15:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kissfan:
No prisoners!

Break it off.
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I've officially reached out to the City Government. Waiting for a response (or lack there of).
Link Posted: 8/27/2024 8:58:19 AM EDT
[#4]
If the TV wasn't rolling, they would have been tossed in a cattle car and then over to county faster than you can say disrespected.
Link Posted: 8/27/2024 10:22:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/27/2024 10:29:27 AM EDT
[#6]
FFS
There really is no excuse for this shit.
Link Posted: 8/27/2024 4:37:13 PM EDT
[#7]
I will never go to DB ever again.  Their PD is full of cocky, arrogant thugs.  That department needed an enema decades ago.  Every situation is "if you don't do what I tell you right now, you're going to jail."  And they wonder why their tourist trade is in the dumper and continues to slide.
Fuck DBPD.
Link Posted: 8/27/2024 7:15:11 PM EDT
[#8]
There is a reason we call it "Dirtona!"

Port Orange Resident.
Link Posted: 8/27/2024 9:07:36 PM EDT
[#9]
I remember the other dick officer on Live Patrol who also happened to be Daytona police who took a CCW holders gun and removed the mag then emptied all of the rounds on tv during a BS interaction.
Link Posted: 8/28/2024 8:39:14 AM EDT
[#10]
Wow, that is fucked up. How do some LEOs not know the law. It's their fucking job.
Link Posted: 8/28/2024 8:52:45 AM EDT
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I'd wish I could say that I'm surprised by this, but it's way too common now. As said above, no excuse for this. Police academies, PD's and SO's need to step up their legal training. But sadly they won't. It will be just more of, arrest them and let the courts sort it out. Arrogance prevents them from admitting they don't know or looking up the statutes, or even radioing back and asking someone if this is legit. Will their overlords back at the station say, you should know that by now dumbass, or they probably don't know the laws that well either? "The law is what I say it is."

Fucking sad state of affairs.
Link Posted: 8/28/2024 11:08:29 AM EDT
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Idiots and those above them are complicit. They are the ones that give the profession a bad name.
Link Posted: 8/28/2024 6:47:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By patw:
They are the ones that give the profession a bad name.
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Beard and tats don't help either.
Link Posted: 8/30/2024 5:05:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/31/2024 7:20:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kalashnikov762:
I will never go to DB ever again.  Their PD is full of cocky, arrogant thugs.  That department needed an enema decades ago.  Every situation is "if you don't do what I tell you right now, you're going to jail."  And they wonder why their tourist trade is in the dumper and continues to slide.
Fuck DBPD.
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Well they had shitwood who imho with my meetings with him pushed for them to do this.
Find an empty mag and a tool box. Rico act em boys...

Plus dirtona sucks ....grew up in the area ...moved out to bfe .
Now I deal with methheads vs the thugs
Link Posted: 8/31/2024 9:23:27 AM EDT
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Usually I can defend DPD.  They are not really bad when it comes to gun rights, & interactions with firearms.  However I'm not sure what this officer's major malfunction was?  I wonder how long he's been a road deputy?
Link Posted: 8/31/2024 10:29:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fuzzy03cls:
Usually I can defend DPD.  They are not really bad when it comes to gun rights, & interactions with firearms.  However I'm not sure what this officer's major malfunction was?  I wonder how long he's been a road deputy?
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This isn't the first sanfu over 2A rights. GOA is suing FL because of the actions that DBPD has taken due to poorly written laws.
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