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6/1/2025 2:05:05 AM EDT
I ain't leaving for a while and I intend to make the dip shits in Denvers lives politically miserable while we are still here but this doesn't feel like the same state.  Western CO still has a lot to offer but it feels like Denver just won't leave us alone.

We are looking at South Carolina most likely if we go.

I don't wanna sound defeated but it just feels like especially short of doing something that might be COC we are just going to keep being marginalized.
6/1/2025 5:10:45 AM EDT
[#1]
I completely understand how ya feel. We could see the political BS changing Colorado from red to blue so we left living in the mountains for the red state of Florida. Obviously a huge change of weather with humidity and all but life is full of "give and takes". We sure miss the mountain scenery but we have more of a feeling of freedom living here with more "common sense" political decisions being made from the top. Good Luck !
6/1/2025 10:09:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Lots of nice areas in Upstate SC.
"Positive rights" are neither.

Busy leaving people the F alone.
6/1/2025 10:14:49 AM EDT
[#3]
"U Haul time, bud."

"Positive rights" are neither.

Busy leaving people the F alone.
6/2/2025 9:15:08 AM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By glck32:
I completely understand how ya feel. We could see the political BS changing Colorado from red to blue so we left living in the mountains for the red state of Florida. Obviously a huge change of weather with humidity and all but life is full of "give and takes". We sure miss the mountain scenery but we have more of a feeling of freedom living here with more "common sense" political decisions being made from the top. Good Luck !
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Plus you have Pub Subs. We have an exit strategy that takes us to FL in the next few years.
6/5/2025 11:43:30 AM EDT
[#5]
Conservatives that don't think they are politically defeated in CO are unaware of the situation on the ground.  

Late term abortion, AWB, mag ban, call your kid "Timmy" on accident because he's a boy and go to prison...

I live in a small conservative Colorado town and now have one interaction a day with a homeless drug addict.  Aggressive and violent encounters are up to about one every 2 weeks.  

This is their winning.   If you were sitting at a gun store counter in 1985 and calmly described Colorado in 2025 to the other patrons you would have been asked to leave because you are obviously fucking nuts.
6/10/2025 1:31:48 PM EDT
[#6]
I am headed out.... either TX or AL within 12 - 18 months.

Work in the defense sector and plenty of jobs in those areas for my skill set.

I absolutely despise what has happened here.
6/12/2025 2:53:33 PM EDT
[#7]
Crime is absolutely rampant. We moved to a nice neighborhood in a nice area. We were burglarized 2 months after we moved. My business regularly has to deal with crap from homeless people and they are the worst. They are just like locusts they consume and destroy and move on without a second thought. Tons of libs are moving here every day. My vote is worthless.
Atypical Millennial
6/12/2025 11:16:00 PM EDT
[#8]
We left a year ago, 2 weeks after retirement. My vote and opinion didn't matter one bit. Sold my business, house and 45 years worth of crap. We made a small fortune.  We bought a great home on acreage for 1/3 what I got in Elizabeth! No more blizzards, hail, wildfires or gangbangers. Much lower taxes overall.  This will be our toe tag house. F@&% that pole smoker governor.
Still shooting and fishing! I now play in more water than Colorado has ever seen. In our case it is greener on the other side of the fence.Attached File


I have common sense, whats your super power? Norcal callsign "Liver"
6/13/2025 3:37:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Been there, tried that. Things went sideways.


I'm as frosty as ever.
Familiarity and prolonged exposure without incident leads to a loss of appreciation of risk.
6/16/2025 11:38:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tuppergun:
We left a year ago, 2 weeks after retirement. My vote and opinion didn't matter one bit. Sold my business, house and 45 years worth of crap. We made a small fortune.  We bought a great home on acreage for 1/3 what I got in Elizabeth! No more blizzards, hail, wildfires or gangbangers. Much lower taxes overall.  This will be our toe tag house. F@&% that pole smoker governor.
Still shooting and fishing! I now play in more water than Colorado has ever seen. In our case it is greener on the other side of the fence.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4000/IMG_20250530_104616743_jpg-3562386.JPG

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The water looks great but you traded one blue state for another unfortunately.
Atypical Millennial
6/17/2025 3:18:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX:
I ain't leaving for a while and I intend to make the dip shits in Denvers lives politically miserable while we are still here but this doesn't feel like the same state.  Western CO still has a lot to offer but it feels like Denver just won't leave us alone.

We are looking at South Carolina most likely if we go.

I don't wanna sound defeated but it just feels like especially short of doing something that might be COC we are just going to keep being marginalized.
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Sorry man.  Many of us are feeling the same.  Right now my kids are in a great conservative school (and pissing off the liberal district), but once they're out in a few years, we're gone.
6/18/2025 4:16:55 PM EDT
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The water looks great but you traded one blue state for another unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By djkest:
Originally Posted By tuppergun:
We left a year ago, 2 weeks after retirement. My vote and opinion didn't matter one bit. Sold my business, house and 45 years worth of crap. We made a small fortune.  We bought a great home on acreage for 1/3 what I got in Elizabeth! No more blizzards, hail, wildfires or gangbangers. Much lower taxes overall.  This will be our toe tag house. F@&% that pole smoker governor.
Still shooting and fishing! I now play in more water than Colorado has ever seen. In our case it is greener on the other side of the fence.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4000/IMG_20250530_104616743_jpg-3562386.JPG



The water looks great but you traded one blue state for another unfortunately.


At least MI is a lighter blue... for now and not by much.
"Positive rights" are neither.

Busy leaving people the F alone.
6/19/2025 8:11:45 PM EDT
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Sorry man.  Many of us are feeling the same.  Right now my kids are in a great conservative school (and pissing off the liberal district), but once they're out in a few years, we're gone.
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This is about where I am at. My kids are thriving academically and learning traditional values due to the choice of school we had. And this beats the horror stories I've heard from people with kids in public schools in deep red states.

Longer term the plan is to escape, but once the dems win a a federal level I doubt been in a different state will matter much. You can't stop whats comming.
6/27/2025 9:14:40 PM EDT
[#14]
I closed up my affairs last weekend and just drove the fuck away.   No plan really other than escaping to a Red state.  

I'd rather be homeless somewhere else for a while than live in CO with my tax dollars funding the Spay/Neuter clinics for kids.   At least the kids that survive the taxpayer funded partial birth abortions.  

The commies won, your vote means nothing, and they are taking the hammer and sickle all the fucking way home boys and girls.  

The new undisclosed location is so fucking chill I don't even really need to carry.   It's Nuts.
6/27/2025 11:27:32 PM EDT
[#15]
Get on a lifeboat while you can. Don't go down with the ship.
"Positive rights" are neither.

Busy leaving people the F alone.
6/29/2025 5:28:38 PM EDT
[#16]


New place sucks.  Bad. I'm gonna have to join an MMA gym or something.  There was so much justifiable violence in my area that the police chief released a press release gently asking us to stop beating the fuck out of nearly every crackhead that showed up.  

Kept me in shape.   Still can't believe I kept my feet under me when shopping cart dude 57 hit me in the face with a baseball bat, but he was in the wrong distance zone for getting power out of the thing.  

Now?  No homeless people or crackheads here, I only need to carry a gun for bears.  Deeply red area in every way, ridiculously so. I'm getting fat from the relaxation and good food already.  

As for the thing that was most fucked up about Colorado?  Criminal justice "reform" is just that.  Reform.  New Form.   Its like the words Amazing, Wonderful, and Awesome.  These words don't actually have a positive connotation.   Being shot in the chest is Amazing for a few moments.  That airplane crash you are witnessing is full of Wonder.  There is a lot of Awe in watching the Yellowstone Supervolcano depopulate North America.  

Similarly, our Criminal Justice system in Colorado only really has people come into work when they need to persecute someone on the non-preferred end of the political spectrum.   A bit of rape?  Probation.  Kids walking around funny like it hurts down there?  Probation.  Sold the Chinese-made Fentanyl that killed thirty people in town?  $1000 fine.  Won't bake a cake because it violates your religious beliefs?  Death penalty.  16 round magazine?  Life in prison...

Etc. etc. etc.  Colorado is toast.   Run.  Let them have their ultra-liberal utopia and make damn sure it can all fall apart on their dime.  

7/25/2025 2:07:36 PM EDT
[#17]
East Tennessee is nice also
7/25/2025 7:28:51 PM EDT
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So was middle Tennessee.

Until it wasn't
Familiarity and prolonged exposure without incident leads to a loss of appreciation of risk.
7/27/2025 7:54:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Miami_JBT][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By glck32:
I completely understand how ya feel. We could see the political BS changing Colorado from red to blue so we left living in the mountains for the red state of Florida. Obviously a huge change of weather with humidity and all but life is full of "give and takes". We sure miss the mountain scenery but we have more of a feeling of freedom living here with more "common sense" political decisions being made from the top. Good Luck !
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@glck32, as a native Floridian, we're not as free as you think.

Gun rights wise, Florida is the lowest ranked Republican state in the nation. A lot of stuff business wise in Florida is he heavily regulated and licensed when it shouldn't be. And politically speaking, if you paid attention to this year's legislative session, it was a trainwreck. Plenty of "common sense" Republicans were in favor of overriding the governor's vetos and trying to pass an immigration amnesty bill. And they also blocked every pro-gun bill this session too,. except a small one.


Property tax $100k exemption on all properties (HB 359) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Property tax $75k homestead exemption (SB 1018) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Cap year-over-property taxes (HB 767/SB 996) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Conduct a study on property taxes (SB 852) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Bill to lower the minimum age to purchase a firearm in Florida from 21 to 18 (HB 759/SB 920) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Repeal the law prohibiting the sale of firearms or ammunition during a state of emergency (SB 952/HB 6025) PASSED - I/GOA PERSONALLY FOUGHT FOR THESE BILLS

Exempts LEO from mandatory three-day waiting period for firearm purchases (SB 490/HB 383) PASSED - I/GOA FOUGHT AGAINST THESE BILLS (EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SKIP THE WAITING PERIOD, NOT JUST COPS)

A bill to repeal Florida's bump-stock ban (HB 6013/SB 1234) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

A bill to repeal Florida's campus carry ban on university/college grounds (SB 814) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Banning harmful chemical additives in food (SB 560/HB 595) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Sexually explicit school book "Loophole" Bill (SB 1692/HB 1539) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Term limits for county commissioners (SJR 802/HJR 679) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Cracking down on illegal immigration, E-Verify (HB 955) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

E-Verify, ban on wire transfers, more (SB 1498/HB 1279, SB 782) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Ban on political flags on government property (SB 100/HB 75) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Bill that bans counties from DEI-related resolutions (SB 420/HB 1571) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Bill that targets DEI in state agencies (SB 1710/HB 731) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Bill restricting pronouns in the workplace (SB 440/HB 1495) DEFEATED BY REPUBLICANS

Democrats have no power in Florida. Florida is a Republican Supermajority state. Only reason why nothing worthwhile happens legislatively in Florida is because Florida Republicans refuse to do it.



https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/florida-supermajority-failing-gun-owners/526960




7/27/2025 8:03:34 PM EDT
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As a Floridian, back in the early 00s, I was seriously looking at moving to Colorado. I was envious of the political and natural environment that Colorado had back then.

Back then, you guys were 110 times better than Florida. Legal open carry with no permit, state preemption, shall issue CCW, no waiting periods, far less gun free zones. Plus, the outside was just amazing.

It saddens me to see what has befallen Colorado. While Florida is not there yet, it is befalling what happened to post-war California. Right now, Florida is early stages of 1960s Republican controlled California. Everyone is moving here and everyone thinks that all the Republicans are pro-freedom. Well, they aren't. Many are leftist Democrats who simply run Republican to win elections because voters are lazy.
7/27/2025 8:56:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
As a Floridian, back in the early 00s, I was seriously looking at moving to Colorado. I was envious of the political and natural environment that Colorado had back then.

Back then, you guys were 110 times better than Florida. Legal open carry with no permit, state preemption, shall issue CCW, no waiting periods, far less gun free zones. Plus, the outside was just amazing.

It saddens me to see what has befallen Colorado. While Florida is there yet, it is befalling what happened to post-war California. Right now, Florida is early stages of 1960s Republican controlled California. Everyone is moving here and everyone thinks that all the Republicans are pro-freedom. Well, they aren't. Many are leftist Democrats who simply run Republican to win elections because voters are lazy.
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Good to see you posting, my .40 bro.  I have to confess that I got a .40 Long recently.  
"Positive rights" are neither.

Busy leaving people the F alone.

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