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3/9/2025 12:51:46 AM EDT
A search for a 52 year old female camper missing since Monday is still on going. I've been putting off buying a scanner that will receive NXDN that is better known as NexEdge. I'm in an adjoining County now and really don't need to know what goes on over there. I'm limited to a Radio Shack PRO-197 and whatever my ham radios will receive. The PRO-197 gets Greenville county stuff which is Pal800.

The missing person information is a bit strange since I don't know of any 52 year old women that leave home without a cell phone these days. The camping area is adjacent to the White Oaks recreation area, but it's been years since I've been in that area.

Guess I may drop $350 on a Uniden BCD260DN to be able to be informed.

Prayers for the missing woman and her family.
3/9/2025 3:04:10 AM EDT
[#1]
even if she had a phone, several reasons she cant use it. dead battery, no signal, lost it, got it soaked, she's hurt, or worse.


hopefully a k9 unit can track her.
3/9/2025 3:07:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: radioshooter][Edited] [#2]
The time to have used the dogs would have been Monday evening or Tuesday morning. I imagine that they did and the dogs couldn't get a scent. After 80-90 searchers have been over the point last scene, the scents will be really mixed. It's going to be air and ground units. There was a lost person over at Long Mountain that wasn't located for 3 days last August, but air searches weren't effective because the leaves were still on.

It's been years since I've been at the White Oaks Recreation area. I can't remember if there is any cell coverage there.
3/9/2025 4:01:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Time for aircraft with FLiR and hope she is still alive.
Tennessee Squire
3/9/2025 9:19:55 PM EDT
[#4]
Unusual situation. Her husband left to get supplies and she was missing when he returned


https://www.wyff4.com/article/crews-searching-for-missing-camper-in-pickens-county-south-carolina/64040384
3/10/2025 10:47:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ChrisM516][Edited] [#5]
I was part of the search on Tuesday.  We've been all over that area for the past week.  Lots of hilly terrain and ravines.  Investigation will be going on for some time.
3/11/2025 6:36:08 PM EDT
[#6]
I was part of the search for Jason Knapp back in 1998 and the follow-up in 1999. None of his remains were ever found. The news said that some of Womack's personal effects were found in a random direction from her campsite. That's not good as those ravines tend to end at a drop off covered with mountain Laurel.

There is always hope.
3/22/2025 6:44:31 AM EDT
[#7]
They suspended the search for her a few days ago
https://www.wyff4.com/article/search-for-missing-woman-in-the-upstate-suspended-emergency-management-says/64234663

Not looking promising for the family. I hope they get answers at least.

dum spiro piscari
3/24/2025 5:02:51 PM EDT
[#8]
The guys story sounds sus to me or she had someone come and get her after he rolled out.
3/24/2025 5:07:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Now there's a forest fire in the state park, started by hikers in the area.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/table-rock-state-park-fire-pickens-south-carolina/64270783


dum spiro piscari
3/24/2025 9:39:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FOX_OSCAR_hook:
Now there's a forest fire in the state park, started by hikers in the area.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/table-rock-state-park-fire-pickens-south-carolina/64270783


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Im about 45 min south the winds up here have been vicious for several days.

3/24/2025 9:46:41 PM EDT
[#11]
One of my cousins sent some pictures from last night of the orange horizon, it's across the valley on the other side of the mountain from her and she's packed and ready to leave if it gets closer.  Lots of pissed of people up there right now.
3/25/2025 3:28:24 PM EDT
[#12]
WYFF said this morning 4 teen hikers started it and will be charged.

Right now wind gusts to 35-40.
3/25/2025 6:32:49 PM EDT
[#13]
A friend of mine said she can sell the smoke and has ashes falling at her house in Spartanburg. Attached File
Distinguished
3/25/2025 9:40:44 PM EDT
[#14]
My cousin and her neighbors had to evac a couple of hours ago when it jumped the line, she's in Greenville now and expecting to lose her house.
3/25/2025 10:53:22 PM EDT
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My cousin and her neighbors had to evac a couple of hours ago when it jumped the line, she's in Greenville now and expecting to lose her house.
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All because of four delinquent teens acting stupid. I normally go hiking in the Tall Pines Management Area which is not far from the SC end of Persimmon Ridge road.

My son says that most people that don't watch the news have no idea about burn bans or Red Flag Events. I find that hard to believe but with the events of the last week or so maybe he is correct.

So how can this be fixed?
3/25/2025 11:08:48 PM EDT
[#16]
Use the emergency alert system built into every phone. It's gps based with emergency tones so it would not be ignored.

Consider Fire Bans, Tornados, and Hurricanes all part of the EAS system. Same as the Amber Alerts
Tennessee Squire
3/26/2025 10:15:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By radioshooter:

All because of four delinquent teens acting stupid. I normally go hiking in the Tall Pines Management Area which is not far from the SC end of Persimmon Ridge road.

My son says that most people that don't watch the news have no idea about burn bans or Red Flag Events. I find that hard to believe but with the events of the last week or so maybe he is correct.

So how can this be fixed?
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They don't. That is how the Carolina Forest fire started. We had several fires prior to that in the 600 acre sizes and a burn ban was enacted.
3/26/2025 1:24:02 PM EDT
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They don't. That is how the Carolina Forest fire started. We had several fires prior to that in the 600 acre sizes and a burn ban was enacted.
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I'm at the base of Table Rock right now and we are chasing down people starting burn piles in their yards while the forest fire is literally next door, smoke pouring over the area, and ash everywhere.  Can't fix stupid.
3/26/2025 2:54:48 PM EDT
[#19]
It's odd, there is zero reporting of any structures/homes being damaged or destroyed- I'm assuming they're trying to keep looters away.  My cousin is trying to get info on her house and neighborhood and there is nothing available.
3/26/2025 3:36:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
It's odd, there is zero reporting of any structures/homes being damaged or destroyed- I'm assuming they're trying to keep looters away.  My cousin is trying to get info on her house and neighborhood and there is nothing available.
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So far there's none, it's mostly forest.
3/26/2025 5:23:14 PM EDT
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So far there's none, it's mostly forest.
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Originally Posted By ChrisM516:
Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
It's odd, there is zero reporting of any structures/homes being damaged or destroyed- I'm assuming they're trying to keep looters away.  My cousin is trying to get info on her house and neighborhood and there is nothing available.


So far there's none, it's mostly forest.



Good to hear, thanks for the update!  Her place is just east of Table Rock.
4/1/2025 9:01:51 PM EDT
[#22]
@ChrisM516

Do you think the burn off will make finding any signs of Womacks any easier?
4/1/2025 9:20:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By radioshooter:

All because of four delinquent teens acting stupid. I normally go hiking in the Tall Pines Management Area which is not far from the SC end of Persimmon Ridge road.

My son says that most people that don't watch the news have no idea about burn bans or Red Flag Events. I find that hard to believe but with the events of the last week or so maybe he is correct.

So how can this be fixed?
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Originally Posted By radioshooter:
Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
My cousin and her neighbors had to evac a couple of hours ago when it jumped the line, she's in Greenville now and expecting to lose her house.

All because of four delinquent teens acting stupid. I normally go hiking in the Tall Pines Management Area which is not far from the SC end of Persimmon Ridge road.

My son says that most people that don't watch the news have no idea about burn bans or Red Flag Events. I find that hard to believe but with the events of the last week or so maybe he is correct.

So how can this be fixed?


Yup. I wouldnt know. Dont have cable. Dont hear about stuff like that on the radio. Anything i want to watch i just stream. Hell i dont have a computer or home internet. Use my phone for everything. Sending it out like weather or ambers alerts is the way to go.
4/2/2025 1:33:39 PM EDT
[#24]
Today's news said that the teens were smoking and failed to properly extinguish their cigarettes.

What brand of cigarettes?  Rolling papers?

That sounds a bit implausible to say the least.
4/2/2025 1:36:33 PM EDT
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@ChrisM516

Do you think the burn off will make finding any signs of Womacks any easier?
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Honestly any answer would be speculation on my part.  Couldn't really say.
4/3/2025 8:11:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By radioshooter:
Today's news said that the teens were smoking and failed to properly extinguish their cigarettes.

What brand of cigarettes?  Rolling papers?

That sounds a bit implausible to say the least.
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Yea people into hiking don’t usually try to kill their lungs. Believe the news said they are charging the three.
4/3/2025 8:43:43 PM EDT
[#27]
There are 4 one is a juvenile.
7 people were evacuated off the mountain during the fire.
They were questioned by LEO.
3 of them are wittinesses that saw the 4 being negligent with the cigarette butts.
According to the local news.

Never found the missing woman either.
4/3/2025 8:48:49 PM EDT
[#28]
What's completely bananas to me is that even while this fire has been raging, with smoke clouding the community, the Six Mile fire, and a fire ban in place (until recently), we've still been having to chase down people burning piles of trash and leaves everywhere.  How dumb can people possibly be?
4/4/2025 1:52:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Definitely gives the phrase "playing with fire" new meaning when you burn 12,000+ acres with stupidity. So what are they going to do with them? Give them 300 days picking up trash?
4/4/2025 2:04:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By radioshooter:
Definitely gives the phrase "playing with fire" new meaning when you burn 12,000+ acres with stupidity. So what are they going to do with them? Give them 300 days picking up trash?
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$200 dollar fine.
5/14/2025 9:55:08 PM EDT
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On May 14, the sheriff said in an update that a few additional, smaller-scale searches have been conducted since the wildfires. Most of them were with cadaver K-9s.

“With the foliage growth and the increased encounters with rattle snakes in the area, we are being very careful with sending people off trail at this time,” Sheriff Blankenship said. “We are also staying in contact with the family and updating them on our status and continuing to offer resources to them as needed.”
5/15/2025 9:37:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eolian:
On May 14, the sheriff said in an update that a few additional, smaller-scale searches have been conducted since the wildfires. Most of them were with cadaver K-9s.

“With the foliage growth and the increased encounters with rattle snakes in the area, we are being very careful with sending people off trail at this time,” Sheriff Blankenship said. “We are also staying in contact with the family and updating them on our status and continuing to offer resources to them as needed.”
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Well, I'm not privy to information from anyone over at any Pickens County agency. But a couple of things about this missing person scenario don't add up. One is why the missing person didn't have a cell phone. The second is why the personal items were found by a ground search crew instead of the K9 teams. Since the dogs didn't hit on a scent leaving the camping area, then those items were put there by some other person.

I'm sure the authorities are keeping score.
5/17/2025 6:53:24 AM EDT
[#33]
I have no direct involvement with this but this is the gist of the situation from what I've been told by others who were part of the search.

The woman was mentally ill. Her husband and family had struggled to keep her safe from delusions for years. Was it a lapse in judgement to leave her unattended or was it a concious decision? We will never know.
5/18/2025 7:41:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mustang17:
I have no direct involvement with this but this is the gist of the situation from what I've been told by others who were part of the search.

The woman was mentally ill. Her husband and family had struggled to keep her safe from delusions for years. Was it a lapse in judgement to leave her unattended or was it a concious decision? We will never know.
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Okay, that fills in a lot. She could have left the park on her own maybe uncertain will.

I had monitored what appeared to be a training operation on SCMA-6 on Saturday. They appeared to be trying to use the position locating ability of the APX8000 portable to track searchers. I can't say if it related to the Table Rock Search but the comms were coming through the Caesars Head Mountain PAL800 site.

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