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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2024 10:44:53 AM EDT
We have some astute and well informed members here.
Who are you supporting and why? Who are you against and why? A civil collective discussion will help us all. As for me, I've not yet decided, and that is why I thought I'd ask. Thanks |
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Posted: 6/22/2024 11:33:37 AM EDT
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Still not 100% decided, but there's more info in the Bladeswitcher thread.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/hometown/Any-thoughts-on-the-governor-s-race-just-to-stir-things-up-/32-671793/ |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/22/2024 6:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Still not 100% decided, but there's more info in the Bladeswitcher thread. https://www.ar15.com/forums/hometown/Any-thoughts-on-the-governor-s-race-just-to-stir-things-up-/32-671793/ Thanks, There is info and I followed that thread but it is stale at this point. Most of the posts were made in 2023. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 11:03:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
[#3]
FWIW . . .
Rex Sinquefield just pumped a million dollars into the Kehoe campaign: Rex Sinquefield drops big donations into GOP governor, AG primaries Also, the most recent polls show Eigel trailing fairly far behind. He's got a lot of ground to cover if he's going to catch up. Realistically, it's a two-man race. 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/24/2024 6:05:11 PM EDT
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I wonder what Sinquefield is buying for his $1M.
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Posted: 6/24/2024 6:47:43 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deuskid: I wonder what Sinquefield is buying for his $1M. Presumably, he hopes to buy a governor and an attorney general. |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 7:59:16 AM EDT
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I'd never heard of the Sinquefield guy before. I liked this from Bladeswitcher's article link: Sophia Shore, Eigel’s campaign manager, said Kehoe “is no doubt the establishment donors choice; he has enough money to burn a wet mule.”
I've met Kehoe a couple of times and he was a likeable guy. The one real dealing I had with him was on a small town utility issue. He tried to help cut through a bunch of bureaucratic red tape BS and come up with a common sense solution, but we ultimately failed. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2024 12:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckshot4U: I'd never heard of the Sinquefield guy before. I liked this from Bladeswitcher's article link: Sophia Shore, Eigel’s campaign manager, said Kehoe “is no doubt the establishment donors choice; he has enough money to burn a wet mule.” I've met Kehoe a couple of times and he was a likeable guy. The one real dealing I had with him was on a small town utility issue. He tried to help cut through a bunch of bureaucratic red tape BS and come up with a common sense solution, but we ultimately failed. He's a super nice guy, as is Mike Parson. Unfortunately, neither have done nothing to decrease the spending in this state, nor push the MO legislature to pass pro-2A, tax-savings, pro-life, or any other conservative issue. Most of the stuff the legislature passes will get signed, but that's not leading, that's just appeasing. Bill Eigel all the way. Get rid of personal property taxes, slash all the BS spending like the $25 million this state spent on DEI programs last year, make IP reform happen, and overall hold the legislatures feet to the fire that either they're going to work together to pass bills or they're not getting funding. Get rid of the RINOs. If Kehoe or Ashcroft win in the primary, I'll still gladly vote for either of them. No matter what, one of these three guys will be governor, so it's all about August in this state. BTW, the media hates Eigel the most, as does the establishment, to the degree that they hate Donald Trump. That's the #1 endorsement for me and why I'm on team Eigel all the way. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2024 12:28:16 PM EDT
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"BTW, the media hates Eigel the most, as does the establishment, to the degree that they hate Donald Trump. That's the #1 endorsement for me and why I'm on team Eigel all the way." Exactly ! |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2024 12:46:19 PM EDT
[#9]
If someone has any critisims of Eigel I sincerely want to hear them.
I've committed to march in support of him in O'Fallon's 4th parade and want to make sure I can do so in good conscience. All that I have been able to learn makes me believe he represents me and my values. Thanks |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 3:51:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deuskid: If someone has any critisims of Eigel I sincerely want to hear them. I've committed to march in support of him in O'Fallon's 4th parade and want to make sure I can do so in good conscience. All that I have been able to learn makes me believe he represents me and my values. Thanks If you like what he says, you believe he’s sincere and have confidence he can deliver, I can’t offer any reason why you shouldn’t support him. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 7:47:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
[#11]
FWIW, Vivek Ramaswamy hopped on the Ashcroft wagon.
Meanwhile, Eigel had a good fund-raising week as the trial lawyers stepped up: This Week in #MOGOV: Lawyers for Eigel vs. Business for Kehoe |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:16:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
[#12]
Not to derail the thread, but the Attorney General race is probably the more interesting contest. Parson's man Andrew Bailey against sometime Trump lawyer Will Scharf is going to be tight and both candidates offer plenty for conservative voters to like. Scharf got a big boost this week from Leonard Leo. If you don't know Leo (Hello?), he's the guy who is responsible for the current make-up of the U.S. Supreme Court.
Will Scharf gets another $2M for Missouri AG campaign from group tied to Leonard Leo |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:31:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: Not to derail the thread, but the Attorney General race is probably the more interesting contest. Parson's man Andrew Bailey against sometime Trump lawyer Will Scharf is going to be tight and both candidates offer plenty for conservative voters to like. Scharf got a big boost this week from Leonard Leo. If you don't know Leo (Hello?), he's the guy who is responsible for the current make-up of the U.S. Supreme Court. Will Scharf gets another $2M for Missouri AG campaign from group tied to Leonard Leo Will Scharf all the way! |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:31:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: If you like what he says, you believe he’s sincere and have confidence he can deliver, I can’t offer any reason why you shouldn’t support him. Good to know. Thanks. Your preference must be personal then. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:34:23 AM EDT
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Heard this announcement on 97.1 just a few minutes ago:
gleened from their website. Event Information: Thursday, July 11, 2024 6:30 PM-9:30 PM CT Parkway West High School 14653 Clayton Rd, Ballwin, MO 63011 Don't miss the Republican Governor's Forum on Thursday, July 11 at Parkway West High School. The leading GOP candidates take the stage for this free event presented by the Republican Central Committee of St. Louis County and moderated by Annie Frey. You can hear the forum live exclusively on 97.1 FM Talk. Wonder if Kehoe will have the gumption to show up? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:20:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deuskid: Good to know. Thanks. Your preference must be personal then. As I mentioned in the other thread, I watched and listened to Bill Eigel through five legislative sessions. You form opinions about people just by being in proximity to them, even if you don't actually know them. So, like I say, IF you believe he’s sincere and have confidence he can deliver, then by all means vote for him. Based on my observations, I don't believe he's sincere, nor do I have any confidence he can do what he promises. Honestly, I think he's full of shit 90% of the time. I don't expect my opinion to sway anyone, though. I trust you're fully capable of examining his proposals and track record and forming your own opinion. ETA: I also don't believe Eigel will win the primary, so there's that. I'm guessing Crystal Quade is praying he wins, though. Eigel is the only Republican she would have any credible chance of beating in November (and even that would be highly unlikely). |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/27/2024 6:42:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: As I mentioned in the other thread, I watched and listened to Bill Eigel through five legislative sessions. You form opinions about people just by being in proximity to them, even if you don't actually know them. So, like I say, IF you believe he’s sincere and have confidence he can deliver, then by all means vote for him. Based on my observations, I don't believe he's sincere, nor do I have any confidence he can do what he promises. Honestly, I think he's full of shit 90% of the time. I don't expect my opinion to sway anyone, though. I trust you're fully capable of examining his proposals and track record and forming your own opinion. ETA: I also don't believe Eigel will win the primary, so there's that. I'm guessing Crystal Quade is praying he wins, though. Eigel is the only Republican she would have any credible chance of beating in November (and even that would be highly unlikely). Thanks for your insights, @Bladeswitcher |
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Posted: 6/27/2024 8:05:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deuskid: The leading GOP candidates take the stage for this free event presented by the Republican Central Committee of St. Louis County and moderated by Annie Frey. You can hear the forum live exclusively on 97.1 FM Talk. Not necessarily directly related to the thread, but I really enjoy Annie Frey's radio show. When I'm on the road for work, or about any other time, I listen to talk radio the majority of the time (assuming I can find someone I can stand to listen to). Post Rush, her show is my favorite of all the local and national shows. If anyone following the thread even somewhat enjoys talk radio and hasn't heard of her, I highly recommend tuning in and giving the show a chance. Related to the thread: I think Frey should be a good moderator. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 6/27/2024 6:57:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Deuskid]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckshot4U: Not necessarily directly related to the thread, but I really enjoy Annie Frey's radio show. When I'm on the road for work, or about any other time, I listen to talk radio the majority of the time (assuming I can find someone I can stand to listen to). Post Rush, her show is my favorite of all the local and national shows. If anyone following the thread even somewhat enjoys talk radio and hasn't heard of her, I highly recommend tuning in and giving the show a chance. Related to the thread: I think Frey should be a good moderator. Annie is my favorite talk show as well. Followed closely by Randy Tobler's show on the 'other' station Before we sold our business, we used to sponsor them. |
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Posted: 6/28/2024 7:52:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deuskid: Annie is my favorite talk show as well. Followed closely by Randy Tobler's show on the 'other' station Before we sold our business, we used to sponsor them. I can't take much of Randy Tobler. I expect that I probably agree with a very large percentage of his ideas, but I can't stand his delivery. The constant "I'm sorry but..." crutch makes me cringe. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I could do any better though. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:40:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Giltweasel]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delorean: He's a super nice guy, as is Mike Parson. Unfortunately, neither have done nothing to decrease the spending in this state, nor push the MO legislature to pass pro-2A, tax-savings, pro-life, or any other conservative issue. Most of the stuff the legislature passes will get signed, but that's not leading, that's just appeasing. Bill Eigel all the way. Get rid of personal property taxes, slash all the BS spending like the $25 million this state spent on DEI programs last year, make IP reform happen, and overall hold the legislatures feet to the fire that either they're going to work together to pass bills or they're not getting funding. Get rid of the RINOs. If Kehoe or Ashcroft win in the primary, I'll still gladly vote for either of them. No matter what, one of these three guys will be governor, so it's all about August in this state. BTW, the media hates Eigel the most, as does the establishment, to the degree that they hate Donald Trump. That's the #1 endorsement for me and why I'm on team Eigel all the way. This is how I'm leaning. Nothing in particular against Kehoe or Ashcroft other than their establishment backing. But that's really enough to look elsewhere IMO. ETA: I'm not too sure I believe ANY of them are sincere. Weighing their bullshit to bullshit, I put Eigel's bullshit in the "most appealing" category. |
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Posted: 6/30/2024 10:31:48 AM EDT
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I have to do absentee voting, and already sent it in. I voted for Eigel.
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Posted: 7/1/2024 7:38:13 AM EDT
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Just saw that hamra turds commercial. Socialist. Abortion. Etc.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/1/2024 10:08:53 PM EDT
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Myself and my family will be voting for bill Eigel. I believe he is the only one against china owning Mo land. I believe he is also the only that comes close to what I believe. I think the others are more center of the road.. I'm done with compromise.
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Posted: 7/6/2024 10:15:38 AM EDT
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Eigel is my guy. He and I ran a AMU here at Whiteman together (he was the OIC). He is genuine. He and his wife were RIF'd out as Captains. Bought a failing business and made it hugely successful in the SL area.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/6/2024 9:16:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I have to do absentee voting, and already sent it in. I voted for Eigel. this ashcroft and kehoe reek of swamp |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2024 10:03:03 AM EDT
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I'm heartened by all the Eigel support.
There is good and bad for term limits ... but the good outweighs the bad. I'm tired of career politicians and multi-generational politicians and and bloated bureaucracy. We need to reverse this growth trend. Maybe cut 1/2 the budget and state employees about as much. I've read where MO pays our state employees about 10-15% less than other states so I did a bit of research and found we have about 15% more employees, per capita, then the average. I don't want gov't doing anything that can be done in the private sector [or even paying the private sector using tax dollars [e.g. medicaid]] Gov't should only being doing that which is prescribed in the Mo and Fed constitutions. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/7/2024 7:15:40 PM EDT
[#28]
this
ashcroft and kehoe reek of swamp Eigel is who I'll be voting for. |
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Posted: 7/9/2024 9:09:22 AM EDT
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It's unlikely anyone on this forum would ever express support for a Democrat, but there are a couple of people vying for the Democrat slot on the ballot. Neither has a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected, so y'all can safely ignore them. But, if you want to know a bit more about who's competing on the Democrat primary ballot, here's an Independent article.
Democratic rivals for Missouri governor see abortion rights as path to victory over GOP Missouri hasn’t elected a Democrat statewide since 2018, and the 2020 race for governor saw Republican Mike Parson cruise to victory by 17 percentage points. The game changer this year, both Hamra and Quade agreed, could be a ballot measure to enshrine abortion rights in Missouri’s constitution that will likely come before voters in November. Since June 2022, nearly every abortion has been illegal in the state with the exception of medical emergencies . . . |
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Posted: 7/10/2024 9:23:23 AM EDT
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If anyone is interested in the lieutenant governor race, heres's an article about each of the Republican candidates:
Crowded GOP primary field vying to be Missouri’s next lieutenant governor |
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Posted: 7/10/2024 12:03:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Good info. Thanks for keeping this going.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/10/2024 4:54:32 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2024 8:39:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Governor's debate between Eigel Ashcroft and some third guy that isn't Kehoe is on right now 97.1 or on Annie Freys YouTube page.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2024 9:07:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delorean: Governor's debate between Eigel Ashcroft and some third guy that isn't Kehoe is on right now 97.1 or on Annie Freys YouTube page. Listening with you and appreciate what I'm hearing |
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Posted: 7/11/2024 9:41:57 PM EDT
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I got the last 30min, thanks to your post.
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Posted: 7/12/2024 8:26:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delorean: Governor's debate between Eigel Ashcroft and some third guy that isn't Kehoe is on right now 97.1 or on Annie Freys YouTube page. It's posted on Youtube:  MISSOURI REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR FORUM | July 11, 2024 |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 9:21:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
[#37]
Treasurer's race round-up:
Incumbent Missouri Treasurer faces four-way Republican primary Parson appointed guy (not from around here) with a funny name, House appropriations chair for the past six years, Freedom/Conservative Caucus player (champion for public funding of private education) and also-ran compete for office nobody pays attention to . . . . |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2024 2:05:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: Treasurer's race round-up: Incumbent Missouri Treasurer faces four-way Republican primary Parson appointed guy (not from around here) with a funny name, House appropriations chair for the past six years, Freedom/Conservative Caucus player (champion for public funding of private education) and also-ran compete for office nobody pays attention to . . . . Lori Rook all the way! |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:34:34 AM EDT
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FWIW, here's the St. Louis Post-Dispatch GOP gubernatorial candidate round-up story (non-paywall version):
Republican race for Missouri governor seen as three-way contest |
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USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 2:42:54 PM EDT
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I like Eigel in theory . . . but that's just a knee-jerk reaction because he drives liberals crazy and I enjoy watching that. In truth, I think he would further divide the republicans in the legislature, and not a thing would ever get done
Pragmatically, I'll most like vote for Kehoe. I think he's realistic in what he wants to accomplish. Ashcroft would be my second choice. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 3:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Carpe_Carp: I like Eigel in theory . . . but that's just a knee-jerk reaction because he drives liberals crazy and I enjoy watching that. In truth, I think he would further divide the republicans in the legislature, and not a thing would ever get done Pragmatically, I'll most like vote for Kehoe. I think he's realistic in what he wants to accomplish. Ashcroft would be my second choice. The republicans in the legislature are already divided and don't get a damn thing down under Lt Gov Kehoe. So voting him into the Governor spot is somehow going to fix that?? |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 5:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mikeak: this ashcroft and kehoe reek of swamp Eigel is who I'll be voting for. Eigel likes to say one thing but does another. https://host2.adimpact.com/admo/viewer/e7fad87d-7b77-4248-ae2a-8de91888dbd9 |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 6:47:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAD762: Eigel likes to say one thing but does another. https://host2.adimpact.com/admo/viewer/e7fad87d-7b77-4248-ae2a-8de91888dbd9 Really? Don't look for a 3rd party editorial. Look at candidate's actions. Eigle has run his own business, how refreshing. Eigle served in the military, again refreshing. Eigel is the only non-career candidate. Maybe he'll not do what he said he'll do but the other 2 candidates have proven they'll not. Additionally Kehoe, I prefer 'hoe' because that is what he is] certainly won't do anything for the state. Voting Eigle is a 'break even/ win'. Any other vote is a 'break even/ lose'. Nothing is going to change unless something changes. Eigel wants to reduce MO budget where is was 5 years ago [about 25Billion vs. 52Billion now] and eliminate property and income tax. If he does that, then that is a major move in the right direction. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:22:09 PM EDT
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That “3rd party editorial” cites every vote they mention.
Maybe you should stop blindly believing Eigels ads and start looking at how he actually votes. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 7:29:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deuskid: Eigle has run his own business, how refreshing. Eigle served in the military, again refreshing. Eigel is the only non-career candidate. . . . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deuskid: Eigle has run his own business, how refreshing. Eigle served in the military, again refreshing. Eigel is the only non-career candidate. . . . How do you define a career politician? Eigel has been in the state Senate for eight years. Ashcroft has been Secretary of State for eight years. Both of those guys have the exact same amount of time in office. Kehoe was in his seventh year in the Senate when he was appointed to serve as lieutenant governor. He's been in that office for six years. So, yeah, Kehoe has been a politician a bit longer than Eigel or Ashcroft, but he's also older than either one of those guys. Give them time. All three of these guys are running for an office they presumably want to keep for eight years. I think whichever candidate wins the governor's office could be described as a career politician when it's all said and done. None of these guys is a modern-day Cincinnatus. As for Eigel being a business owner. Yes, when he got out of the military he bought a sunroof business. He owned it for a couple of years but later sold it. I have no idea if he's been involved in any other business since then. BTW, if you're looking for a candidate with business cred, Kehoe is your guy. Originally Posted By Deuskid: Eigel wants to reduce MO budget where is was 5 years ago [about 25Billion vs. 52Billion now] and eliminate property and income tax. If he does that, then that is a major move in the right direction. Eigel couldn't convince his fellow legislators to do those things when he was a senator. Why assume he could do it as governor? |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:05:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
[#46]
A follow-up to the career politician thing:
Eigel first ran for office (and got elected) at age 39. Ashcroft, who was born and raised in a political family, first ran for office when he was 41 and first elected at age 43. Mike Kehoe was 49 years old when he first ran and was elected to the Senate (though he was appointed to the state transportation commission at age 43). So, in terms of which one of the three was most eager to get into the politics game, that would seem to be Bill Eigel, who ran for office before his 40th birthday. Any suggestion that Eigel is less of a career politician than the others does not appear to be supportable by facts. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 8:34:14 AM EDT
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Plz keep the info coming everyone. I’m down to Eigel or Kehoe.
No way on Ashcroft. I’m tired of these MO political “familes” on both sides of the aisle. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 8:58:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RustyKnifeUSMC: Plz keep the info coming everyone . . . This article discusses the resources of the gubernatorial candidates, as well as those running for the down-ballot offices. Fundraising in Missouri governor’s race tops $21 million, with most going to Kehoe Scott Faughn provided an update on the three gubernatorial contenders' activities. (As an aside, the Missouri Times' content has really gone downhill since two ass-busting reporters left last year. He seems to be trying to do his thing on the cheap. Clearly he needs to hire an editor as he repeated a paragraph): This Week in the #MOGOV: The race reacts to the Trump assassination attempt |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 3:27:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: This article discusses the resources of the gubernatorial candidates, as well as those running for the down-ballot offices. Fundraising in Missouri governor’s race tops $21 million, with most going to Kehoe Scott Faughn provided an update on the three gubernatorial contenders' activities. (As an aside, the Missouri Times' content has really gone downhill since two ass-busting reporters left last year. He seems to be trying to do his thing on the cheap. Clearly he needs to hire an editor as he repeated a paragraph): This Week in the #MOGOV: The race reacts to the Trump assassination attempt Speaking of resources, a lot of left wing trial lawyers have been donating to Eigel. https://stlrecord.com/stories/657499854-trial-lawyers-contributing-to-longshot-gop-candidate-for-governor-eigel I wonder if that's why he's been stonewalling tort reform in MO? |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 4:45:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAD762: Speaking of resources, a lot of left wing trial lawyers have been donating to Eigel. . . . Politicians should be like NASCAR drivers. They should wear sponsor patches on their jackets so we can tell whose bidding they're doing. |
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