Posted: 10/3/2025 5:48:28 PM EDT
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Our youngest has a couple of years of high school left and we’ll be staying to help her through her first 2 years of college. After that, we’re hoping to move somewhere within the red circle. We live in the country now on 10 acres but are within 15 minutes of a smaller town and 30 minutes from a small city. Hoping to find a similar location in TN. The idea of living around Chattanooga and being able to access Georgia seems interesting but areas between Knoxville and Pigeon Forge also look good. Other than looking at Google Earth, that’s all I really know. I know Memphis is ghetto but know nothing about the other cities. Any suggestions? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By bodybagger: Things are so dynamic it's hard say 5 years into the future. Yep, lots of changes in just the last 10 years. Though it is an easy prediction to say that if democrats continue to run Nashville's government, in five years Nashville will be even more like Memphis than it currently is. |
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Originally Posted By JPN: Yep, lots of changes in just the last 10 years. Though it is an easy prediction to say that if democrats continue to run Nashville's government, in five years Nashville will be even more like Memphis than it currently is. Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By bodybagger: Things are so dynamic it's hard say 5 years into the future. Yep, lots of changes in just the last 10 years. Though it is an easy prediction to say that if democrats continue to run Nashville's government, in five years Nashville will be even more like Memphis than it currently is. I watched a video that said Nashville is like Austin now. |
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I'll give you a prime example. I live in Warren County. Over the last 5-10 years this outfit moved in on the Warren/Van Buren line and built their yoga retreat. https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/center/isha-institute-inner-sciences-usa They are bringing in liberal outsiders like crazy. They just announced plans to build a settlement for 45,000 of their converts/followers on the 20,000 acres of land they have bought up. Our total county population is about 45,000. Our county is solid red right now but the city of McMinnville is controlled a bunch of typical blue holes. They have cozied up with the isha bunch and today isha is sponsoring the autumn street fair downtown. Isha requires an expensive buy in(supposedly you put all your property and monies in their name) and fees along the way as you advance your spiritual journey. When you run out of money, you're put out the front gates. They have contributed significantly to our local homeless population. Their tax cover is this "Save Soil" bullshit program that has less soil conservation info than a 9th grade Future Farmer's display booth at the county fair. If they succeed in what they are trying I may be trying to leave this place myself. At the rate these bad outsiders are coming in there's no way to know what 5 years will bring. My community is not the only one experiencing the wrong kind of growth like this. If you're wanting to live in Tennessee you better get moving while you can. |
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Five years from now? As another posted, who knows? I will say this, anything near PF and specifically in Sevier county I would avoid like the plague. They are currently trying to get a 1,500 home development in Sevier county. Right now it has been denied but I will bet at some point with changes it will go through, there’s just too much money involved here with the developers and tax revenue to the county. If you happen to buy near that, you’re screwed unless you unload it to them, then you’re right back to looking for something else. This crazy housing market has done a couple of things, raised prices through the roof and dried up the existing inventory. At some point there will be a correction, there always has been. Inventory will rise and prices will come down. Depending on where you get in you may be fine and then again you may take a big loss. Several things you need to address, your budget and your wants. How many acres, etc. The area on the map you have circled is huge. Conditions, pricing, utilities, access, broadband, etc. vary wildly. You would be better served narrowing it down to less than a handful of locations and before you buy put boots on the ground. Buying sight unseen has become the norm for a lot of people only to find out later it was a bad decision. The internet has changed the way people buy real estate and going only by what you can see online, a real turd can be made to seem great. |
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Originally Posted By 1975: I watched a video that said Nashville is like Austin now. The mayor has been claiming that crime is down, but you wouldn't get that impression from watching the local news, and some years back some of the police precincts in Nashville got caught manipulating the crime statistics (recategorizing certain crimes and other tricks) to make the precinct look better. The Metro Nashville council has a history of telling the police to leave the homeless alone. Earlier this year, a local channel did a report about a security force in the downtown tourist area that was doing things like telling the homeless they couldn't sit on the sidewalks. They dug a little and found out the security had been hired by an association of businesses in that part of town, and that some of the security force were off-duty police from the surrounding counties and even some off-duty state police. The report got people talking about "the shadow police force" and how it needed to be done away with. If you walk north from the downtown tourist area, following the riverfront, you will find various homeless camps along the parks and riverfront greenway path. There was an attempted rape (fortunately stopped by someone who happened to be nearby) of a jogger along that riverfront greenway, and the rapist turned out to have been living in one of the homeless camps. For a while, the state police had a program of having their officers patrol the area (since Nashville government was telling their police to leave the area alone) and among the arrests they made was a guy from a neighboring state who had outstanding warrants and had a teenage (14 or 15, if my memory isn't off) girl living with him in the camp. The girl was a Canadian citizen who had apparently been reported missing in Canada. Earlier this week, there was a shooting in the Antioch area of Nashville (southeast corner of the county). A guy had been arguing with his girlfriend at an apartment complex, and she told him that she was leaving and had called her ex-boyfriend to pick her up. Then a car pulled into the parking lot, and the boyfriend assumed that it was the ex-boyfriend and opened fire on the car without bothering to look to see who was in the car. The guy driving the car (a complete stranger) was killed, and the boyfriend is now facing homicide charges. Anyone familiar with the area would likely shrug and say something like "that's Antioch". The Nashville police department formed a special task force to deal with the number of car thefts and car burglaries, after numerous news reports of criminals picking a street and breaking a window on every car for a block or two, quickly searching each car for anything worth stealing. Nashville government is pushing the idea that the only reason this is happening is that they are looking for guns that were left in cars, but they never seem to have any guns reported stolen during these overnight incidents of breaking into every car in a one or two block area (still, it's all the fault of the gun owners, according to the local news reports). At least one police officer from the car theft task force has stated during interviews that it is common for them to catch someone and the individual to have prior arrests for the same thing. When there is a report of someone being caught, they are typically either a minor or someone in the 18 to 20 range. A while back, a juvenile court judge was interviewed and went on at length about how they had made changes that got the average time a juvenile spent in the custody of the juvenile justice system cut in half from what it used to be. The average is now just 4 days in custody, for crimes ranging from shoplifting to accessory to murder. The Nashville police department has advised people to not approach anyone they see breaking into a car, and to not even do anything like yell at them. There have been multiple reports of people opening a window to yell at people that were messing with their car parked out front, and the result was the front of the house being sprayed with gunfire. One homeowner was hit and went to the hospital, while others just had to deal with the aftermath of dodging a volume of gunfire. There was one incident that turned out to almost have a happy ending. A guy saw someone breaking into a van that was owned by "the neighborhood auntie" and approached the guy. The burglar pulled out a gun and fired, but was a lousy shot and missed. The approaching guy pulled out his own gun and returned fire, but his accuracy wasn't any better. The burglar decided he was no longer interested in the van and moved to vacate the area. Having just been shot at, the guy who had interrupted the burglary wasn't content to leave things at that, and he kept firing, eventually making a solid hit to the burglar's back after he had gotten a considerable distance away. Reporters talked to the neighborhood auntie who was shocked that the guy would do something like kill a guy who was only breaking into her car, and they also talked to the (white, and likely liberal) woman who found the burglar bleeding to death in the street near her home and was unable to do anything more than offer him some comfort as he died. The guy who interrupted the burglar (and ended up shooting him in the back) was arrested and charged with criminal homicide. (Moral of the story: Make your first shot count, when you are returning fire in Nashville.) Section 8 housing has also taken its toll on various areas of Nashville, with some areas that rarely had reports of crime (and was usually minor property crimes, when it was reported) in the past, now having multiple reports of shootings. You might think that this would reduce the crime in the areas that used to be high in crime, but the gentrified (or partially gentrified) area of east Nashville still has a lot of shootings. Reporters seem to have no trouble finding residents (who moved there in recent years) who are capable of expressing shock that this is happening in their neighborhood (since "it's such a nice area"). Reporters are capable of saying what street intersection the shooting was near, but seem completely incapable of telling you what is near that intersection, leaving you to check a map and see that one of the public housing projects is on that corner. And another news report from earlier this week was about a 70 year old woman being kicked in the chest while walking on the sidewalk near her apartment in downtown Nashville. In addition to being knocked out, she broke a hip and an arm in the fall. Police quickly found her attacker, since it was daylight with plenty of witnesses, and arrested him for the attack. He was back out on the street before the woman was out of surgery. One of her elderly neighbors talked to reporters about his own recent experiences with being attacked on the sidewalk in downtown Nashville. If he bothered to mention during the interviews that it is homeless men doing these attacks, that was edited out of the video, leaving people to guess on their own (with the clue of the woman's attacker being described by the police as appearing to be intoxicated and confused when they found him) that it's the homeless that are randomly attacking people. But the mayor seems quite proud when he states that crime is down in Nashville. |
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I left TN. the first of the year when I retired. I had lived in Nashville and then Smryna for 44 years. It was a cool place in the 80s & 90s. I liked it a lot. I had no plans to leave. 20 years later, It was much different and I was glad to go. |
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Originally Posted By einnor1040: I left TN. the first of the year when I retired. I had lived in Nashville and then Smryna for 44 years. It was a cool place in the 80s & 90s. I liked it a lot. I had no plans to leave. 20 years later, It was much different and I was glad to go. I've even heard (native) democrats complaining that the influx of Californians over the last decade is turning Nashville to shit. |
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Lots to think about. I just did this myself. Will you need to work? Look hard at health care If taxes are an issue, check hard. How much stuff do you currently have What are you going to do with it all If you don't need to work and like low taxes, then Crossville / Sparta might be a good choice. It is a bit far from the big cities (1 to 1.5 hr) like Nashville and Knoxville. But Cookeville has everything you need close by. I bought at the top of COVIG and in a hurry. With more time and info, I might have picked Sparta. There are lots of areas like this in TN. I have found that around here, if you want to live on the water, it will come with an HOA. |
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Originally Posted By bodybagger: I'll give you a prime example. I live in Warren County. Over the last 5-10 years this outfit moved in on the Warren/Van Buren line and built their yoga retreat. https://isha.sadhguru.org/en/center/isha-institute-inner-sciences-usa They are bringing in liberal outsiders like crazy. They just announced plans to build a settlement for 45,000 of their converts/followers on the 20,000 acres of land they have bought up. Our total county population is about 45,000. Our county is solid red right now but the city of McMinnville is controlled a bunch of typical blue holes. They have cozied up with the isha bunch and today isha is sponsoring the autumn street fair downtown. Isha requires an expensive buy in(supposedly you put all your property and monies in their name) and fees along the way as you advance your spiritual journey. When you run out of money, you're put out the front gates. They have contributed significantly to our local homeless population. Their tax cover is this "Save Soil" bullshit program that has less soil conservation info than a 9th grade Future Farmer's display booth at the county fair. If they succeed in what they are trying I may be trying to leave this place myself. At the rate these bad outsiders are coming in there's no way to know what 5 years will bring. My community is not the only one experiencing the wrong kind of growth like this. If you're wanting to live in Tennessee you better get moving while you can. @bodybagger I heard some stories about these isha folks while we were in Beersheba from the local town folks. They were polite about it but you could see on their faces they were like 
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Originally Posted By bodybagger: Things are so dynamic it's hard say 5 years into the future. I agree. I moved here just over 5 years ago, and the market is virtually unrecognizable from what it was then. Knowing that the pace of change hasn't really slowed down (in fact probably the opposite), I wouldn't worry at all about trying to nail down the housing/land market until 6-8 months before a move. |
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Originally Posted By remarcablearms: Lots to think about. I just did this myself. Will you need to work? Look hard at health care If taxes are an issue, check hard. How much stuff do you currently have What are you going to do with it all If you don't need to work and like low taxes, then Crossville / Sparta might be a good choice. It is a bit far from the big cities (1 to 1.5 hr) like Nashville and Knoxville. But Cookeville has everything you need close by. I bought at the top of COVIG and in a hurry. With more time and info, I might have picked Sparta. There are lots of areas like this in TN. I have found that around here, if you want to live on the water, it will come with an HOA. I’ll check that area out. Thanks. |
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Just got back from staying in Crossville over the weekend. Had dinner in downtown Sparta Saturday night. Not really impressed with either town, but Crossville has a Bucees and a lot of golf courses with old people on them. Jamestown to the North, seemed more our speed but was too far from Knoxville for our purposes. The time zone line (EST to CST) is around Exit 329 on I-40 (Crab Orchard) Oak Ridge, Harriman, are nice. Knoxville is rapidly expanding as is Maryville and Loudon, Lenoir City. For example looked at a new build Duplex in Knoxville, 3bd/2ba, one car garage each side, they wanted $630K for a end unit on the edge of a retainment pond with a steep decline. The development was shoehorned into an old single family home property with poor ingress/egress and no on-street parking. A fire truck is going to have a helluva time turning around on that cul-de-sac. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6612-6614-Johnbo-Way-Knoxville-TN-37931/455898289_zpid/ We looked at a few properties and noticed that the photographers were very careful to crop photos showing how close neighbors, roads ,high tension power lines were. The same with the topography and steep inclines on some of the driveways. Nothing beats looking at the area in-person. Stopped at the Bush Beans visitor center for lunch on the way into town. Nice, wholesome place. Bush Beans visitor center Visited the Brushy Mountain Penitentiary museum the next day in Petros. Did the self-guided tour and ate at the Warden's Table restaurant, the BBQ was pretty good. The townsfolk did a good job of transitioning the old jail into a multi purpose venue. They have two restaurants, a distillery and a RV park on site, Music venue, besides the old jail. https://tourbrushy.com/ |
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Real estate prices here in Knoxville is insane, not uncommon in other area as well. I see homes near me that are absolutely crazy, but someone must be buying. The place you’re showing would be a no go for me at half that price. Traffic in and around there is horrible. |
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I live in the North of Morgan County. I have a nice area where there are a bunch of 8-30 acre lots. We have electricity and high speed internet. Every well has hit water. Might be worth checking out. There are about 100 lots, almost all of them have sold once, but people have bought and determined they don't want to move (I think the Trump election made people not so worried.) I think it might meet your needs. Email me for questions. I am almost never logged on. |
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Originally Posted By Prae: Congratulations. Originally Posted By Prae: Originally Posted By manchu39: @Bodybagger Closing on the new house tomorrow and moving our stuff this weekend and next week. Let's GO! See you soon my friend... Thank you @Prae! We are loving it and sorry for the delayed response, it has been busy 
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Originally Posted By rebel_rifle: Real estate prices here in Knoxville is insane, not uncommon in other area as well. I see homes near me that are absolutely crazy, but someone must be buying. The place you’re showing would be a no go for me at half that price. Traffic in and around there is horrible. The California transplants have driven up home prices to ridiculous levels. I moved away from Knoxville last year for a job. The house we bought for $285,000 in 2015 sold for $800,000 to a California family. They paid cash. My old neighbor's house sold a year earlier to a California family who had only seen photos of the outside of the house. I miss Knoxville but may never be able to afford to move back (at least not to the kind of house my wife would demand). |
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Originally Posted By LawVol: The California transplants have driven up home prices to ridiculous levels. I moved away from Knoxville last year for a job. The house we bought for $285,000 in 2015 sold for $800,000 to a California family. They paid cash. My old neighbor's house sold a year earlier to a California family who had only seen photos of the outside of the house. I miss Knoxville but may never be able to afford to move back (at least not to the kind of house my wife would demand). Originally Posted By LawVol: Originally Posted By rebel_rifle: Real estate prices here in Knoxville is insane, not uncommon in other area as well. I see homes near me that are absolutely crazy, but someone must be buying. The place you’re showing would be a no go for me at half that price. Traffic in and around there is horrible. The California transplants have driven up home prices to ridiculous levels. I moved away from Knoxville last year for a job. The house we bought for $285,000 in 2015 sold for $800,000 to a California family. They paid cash. My old neighbor's house sold a year earlier to a California family who had only seen photos of the outside of the house. I miss Knoxville but may never be able to afford to move back (at least not to the kind of house my wife would demand). Looking around in my area, west Knox in the county. Housing prices are insane and have been for the last several years. I see a lot of those moving here are from lots of different states and unfortunately a lot of them are bringing their blue politics with them. They move here to escape the high taxes, etc. but then end up bringing that shit here. |
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There are a lot of great little towns east of Knoxville. Greenville & Dandridge are my two favorites. I'm in Parrottsville, population 216. 30 minutes to Hot Springs, 2 hours to Chattanooga, 4 hours to Atlanta. Sylvan's area is very nice. Pigeon Forge = TRAFFIC |
Originally Posted By Sylvan:
...we are at jailing political enemies, looting the treasury and inviting in the barbarians in phase of the Republic.
...we are at jailing political enemies, looting the treasury and inviting in the barbarians in phase of the Republic.
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Originally Posted By wingnutx: There are a lot of great little towns east of Knoxville. Greenville & Dandridge are my two favorites. I'm in Parrottsville, population 216. 30 minutes to Hot Springs, 2 hours to Chattanooga, 4 hours to Atlanta. Sylvan's area is very nice. Pigeon Forge = TRAFFIC TRAFFIC implies the cars eventually go somewhere lol |
I think one of the major problems with America today is not enough families sit down to a big plate of squirrels momma just fried up.
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The Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg/Sevier county area has blown up with an influx of tourists and transplants from out of state. It was bad enough pre Covid but has now gotten worse. High housing and land prices and traffic. Not to mention an overloaded infrastructure such as schools, utilities, etc. You could not pay me enough to have to deal with that on a daily basis. Unfortunately, it is starting to spread to other adjoining cities and counties. |
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still love my county that doesn't have any stop lights! you need to get off the main roads and just start driving to find the gems still around. no sir, they aren't cheap, but it can be yours! maybe they'll finish our house in the next few weeks. we are sooooo ready and this weather has sucked since Christmas. |
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