GD thread on this: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AR-15s-legal-in-Jersey-/5-2739629/

Judge appears to strike down the NJ ban on AR-15 for home self defense. Leaves magazine ban standing. People still digesting what the order means and what if anything changes in NJ.

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/cheeseman

Opinion: https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/6504/attachments/original/1722367715/2024.07.30_080_OPINION.pdf?1722367715

Order and Judgement: https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/6504/attachments/original/1722368751/2024.07.30_081_JUDGMENT.pdf?1722368751

Notice of appeal: https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/6504/attachments/original/1722372506/2024.07.30_082_NOA.pdf?1722372506

FPC WIN: A New Jersey federal judge has struck down the state's ban on the Colt AR-15 for self-defense within home, saying that they "are commonly owned throughout the United States": https://t.co/XrjnZkLuVj pic.twitter.com/WCZjiYADhR

Firearms Policy Coalition  (@gunpolicy) July 30, 2024

Wonder what this means for us up here behind the Rainbow Curtain.

Don't worry, the CCDL will have another picnic, beg for money and promise to push their lawsuits through.

Every other 2A friendly organization has had their lawsuits heard. 11 years and we still have nothing to show for it.

CCDL's/SAF's current lawsuit (Grant v. Lamont) against CT's AWB is currently working its way through a very hostile anti gun court system. Every time the CT AWB has been challenged, this is the third or fourth time since 1994, the plaintiffs have lost. The court(s) are slow walking the case which included having one judge retire and another take over resulting in further delays, like a number of other courts are doing with 2A AWB challenges.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65387008/grant-v-lamont/

It sucks to be sure but this is the way the game is played. Challenges to AWB's take many years and cost a lot of money for the plaintiffs. With some cases intentionally slow walked in liberal courts in hopes SCOTUS makeup changes or the plaintiffs run out of money. The politicians have intentionally setup the system and rules to make overturning their edicts very difficult, time consuming and expensive.

Mark Smith's first reaction to the NJ opinion.



Seems like this opinion is grudgingly applying Bruen but the judge did so as narrowly as possible and doesn't appear to be a proper application of Bruen because he keeps other portions of the AWB and LCM ban in place. The judge appears to have stayed his order for 30 days to allow for the inevitable appeals by both parties.

I appreciate the excuses but I am not buying it. These other lawsuits that are being heard have not been pending for 10+ years. I gave up on them years ago. My money goes to other organizations that are taking action.

Excuses? Pending for 10 years? Uh what? The CCDL/SAF Grant v. Lamont lawsuit was filed on September 29, 2022.
https://atkinsonlawfirm.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/AW-Complaint.pdf
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65387008/grant-v-lamont/

The case has been reassigned/transferred twice (Nov 3, 2022 and Sep 6, 2023) to new judges which slows things down. Like it or not US District Court for Connecticut and it's judges seems to be taking their sweet time adjudicating the case. The delay tactic is what a number of courts are now currently engaged in with 2A cases across the nation. The courts are playing fuck-fuck games to avoid applying Bruen. Blame the court for their molasses like response in adjudicating the Grant v. Lamont challenge.

Edit to add: As a comparison the California's Miller v Bonta case was filed August 15th, 2019 and STILL is being kicked around the courts even after SCOTUS sent it back to the 9th Circuit for review after the Bruen opinion on June 23, 2022. In some cases after SCOTUS GVR'd these 2A cases back to the Circuit Court for review who then kicked it even further down the food chain as a delaying tactic.

Not long after the gun bill was passed in 2013 they were supposedly filing a lawsuit and were asking for donations. I gave money a few times. Kept being real vague about updates. Now you say they never actually filed anything until a year or two ago. Between them and the NRA I got suckered.

Again uh wat? I never stated they didn't file a case until now. Rather, as I stated in a prior post; there have been several challenges to CT's AWB since 1994. Including the CCDL's Shew v. Malloy case that was filed (5/22/2013) after PA 13-3 was enacted on 4/4/13 post Sandy Hook. CCDL lost that challenge. They took the Shew v. Malloy case all the way to SCOTUS who denied the Writ of Certiorari petition on 6/22/2016.
https://michellawyers.com/shew-v-malloy/

That explains why CCDL is quiet. They lost. My bad.


I am so done with all this BS anyway. I pretty much have given up. The left has worn me down. Elections are not real, they are selections. Our rights are being eroded daily. Mental illness is being promoted as normal. Normal people are being vilified. The USA is done, just put a fork in it.

They lost the 2013 Shew v Malloy case, but their 2022 Grant v Lamont case is still active its just the courts are slow walking it.

The reality is that CCDL or any pro rights/pro 2A group faces a very long uphill battle in a very anti 2A hostile court system up to and including the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals. Basically any legal challenge out of CT is going to loose and have to be continually appealed up to SCOTUS. And that can get expensive for CCDL. And as we've seen SCOTUS is currently sitting on it's thumbs watching blue state politicians along with most of the lower courts intentionally defy Heller, Chicago, Caetano, Bruen and now Rahimi and give the middle finger to SCOTUS. Speculation seems to be that SCOTUS will likely take up one of the various AWB challenges next year once one or more of the cases finishes being kicked around the lower courts.

CCDL is what it is. They get a lot of hate for not producing results from people who want immediate results now.