On 08.06.24 NYPD issued an emergency rule in regards to the issuance of concealed carry permits, that has made several updates to the way they operate.

The key takeaways are as follows:

Non-Residents of NY may apply to the NYPD even if they have no ties to the city such as employment for a concealed carry permit.

If the permit is issued, the licensee will abide by the rules and laws within the City of New York with respect to carrying a concealed handgun.

You may not have been convicted of Assault in the third degree, Menacing or misdemeanor DWI within 5 years of the date of application.

Non-Residents must complete the 18 hours of training to be issued the permit. You can book our 18-Hour training class here!

Originally Posted By fly223:
I wonder how much how much the permits will be and I think you have to work in NYC to obtain the non-res ccw unless I'm wrong.

Originally Posted By fly223:
I thought Jersey was bad with pricing.. I'll just keep my nj, pa, and utah for now. I think MD is expensive isn't it?

Originally Posted By diamondd817:
So, does this apply to NY State as well? Because NYC and NY State are 2 totally separate entities. You couldn't carry in NYC with a NY State carry permit in the past.

Originally Posted By diamondd817:
So, does this apply to NY State as well? Because NYC and NY State are 2 totally separate entities. You couldn't carry in NYC with a NY State carry permit in the past.

Originally Posted By mhbaker81:
My parents live in upstate NY and I know that the NY State Police were not issuing carry permits for non residents. If the NYC non-resident Special Carry permit is recognized state-wide, then I might as well go for it.

Originally Posted By mhbaker81:
Any update to the rules / steps for non-resident NYC Special Carry applications? Curious if anyone has actually applied yet. I'm coming up on renewal for my Jersey CCW and figure why not do NYC and Pennsylvania at the same time.

Originally Posted By Demeroma:
As for PA, you can do that easily by going to a PA county that issues to non-residents. I highly recommend Pike county for the ease of getting a PA license.

What a non-resident may be asking themselves at this point is "How do I do it?"

You'll be first applying to the NYPD through their licensing portal, you'll be mostly performing the same steps as a New York City resident and choosing "Concealed Carry" as the license type, which we've laid out below:

The major thing to note is that NYPD has not yet updated their portal to be able to have a non-NY safeguard, which is a person who will be taking responsibility for your firearms if you become incapacitated or die. Expect to find a NY resident to perform this duty or let us know and we will assist you.

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These rules:

Create a procedure for individuals who do not reside in NYS to apply for licenses within NYC;

Clarify the procedures surrounding registering a handgun to a person's license; and

Amend the limitations to the quantity of handguns that may be registered to a Concealed Carry license.

Makes minor corrections.

Attendees who need reasonable accommodation for a disability such as a sign language translation should contact the agency by calling 1 (646) 610-6468 or emailing [email protected] by November 12, 2024

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Mail: New York City Police Department - License Division. Attn: Director Nicole Berkovich, 1 Police Plaza Room/Floor: 110a ; new york, New York 10038

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22. Section 5-10 of Title 38 of the Rules of the City of New York is amended to read as follows:

 5-10 Grounds for Denial of Handgun License.
In addition to other bases for disqualification pursuant to federal, state, and local law and this chapter, an application for a handgun license may be denied where it is determined that an applicant lacks good moral character, pursuant to New York State Penal Law   400.00 (1). In evaluating incidents or circumstances pursuant to this section, the License Division shall consider all relevant factors, including but not limited to the number, recency and severity of incidents and the outcome of any judicial or administrative proceedings. Such a determination shall be made based upon consideration of the following factors:

(a) The applicant has been arrested, indicted or convicted for a crime or violation except minor traffic violations, in any federal, state or local jurisdiction.

(b) The applicant has been other than [honorably discharged] "Honorably" separated from the Armed Forces of this country.

(c) The applicant has or is reasonably believed to have a disability or condition that may affect the ability to safely possess or use a handgun, including but not limited to alcoholism, drug use or mental illness.

(d) The applicant is or     has been an unlawful user of, or addicted to, a controlled substance or marijuana.

(e) The applicant made a false statement on their application, or failed to disclose their complete arrest history, including sealed arrests. Sealed arrests are made available to the License Division pursuant to Article 160 of the Criminal Procedure Law when an application has been made for a license to possess a gun.

(f) The applicant is the subject of an order of protection, a temporary order of protection, or an extreme risk protection order.

(g) The applicant has a history of one or more incidents of domestic violence.

   (h) The applicant has a poor driving history, has multiple driver license suspensions or has been declared a scofflaw by the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles.

(i) The applicant has failed to comply with federal, state or local law or with Police Department rules governing possession and use of firearms, rifles, shotguns or ammunition.

   (j) The applicant has been terminated from employment under circumstances that demonstrate lack of good judgment or lack of good moral character.

   (k) The applicant has demonstrated an inability to safely store firearms, such as through a history of lost/stolen firearms.

   (l) The applicant has failed to pay legally required debts including but not limited to child support, taxes, fines or penalties imposed by governmental authorities.

(m) The applicant fails to cooperate with the License Division's investigation of their application or fails to provide information requested by the License Division or required by this chapter.

   (n) Other information that demonstrates the lack of good moral character, including but not limited to an unwillingness to abide by the law, a lack of candor towards lawful authorities, a lack of concern for the safety of oneself and/or other persons and/or for public safety, and/or an inability to maintain handgun possession in a manner that is safe to oneself or others.

10.21.24 | Update

FINGERPRINTING PROCESS AT 1 POLICE PLAZA (1PP) - What to Expect
 All Applicants must be fingerprinted at 1 Police Plaza

 During my 2 hours at 1 PP, all of the NYPD officers and staff who I interacted with, were super nice and helpful. Probably 6-7 in total.

 They will e-mail you a date, you cannot pick it, and if you cannot make the day they assign, you must wait until that date passes then they scheduled you again randomly. You need to go the day they assign if not you will delay your application weeks/months, each time about 45-50 days it will get pushed out.

 When you go to 1PP expect to be there for 2-3 hours, fastest would be about 90 min start to finish.

 1 PP is located by the Brooklyn Bridge in Lower Manhattan 1 Police Plaza Path, New York, NY 10038 https://maps.app.goo.gl/TZ61S4oFUjNW9tzX6

The fasted way into 1 PP from NJ is via PATH to WTC, then 4/5 Train to Brooklyn Bridge Manhattan. Park at Exchange Place JC or Hoboken

 You cannot enter the NYPD Complex until 0830, ok to show up and have coffee in the plaza, but it's best to arrive at 0830 or later as they will make you wait outside.

 From what I could tell they process about 25-30 applicants a day for prints.

 When you arrive at 1PP, there is a Visitors Area   cannot miss it.

 They will have your name on a list at visitor security, tell them you are going to Room 110 (there is no room 110A)

 DO NOT BRING ANY KNIVES OR PROHIBITED ITEMS   you will go through metal detectors which are far more sensitive than those at the airport.

 Once you enter the 1st guard house and clear the metal detectors, there is a little kiosk where you scan your Passport or ID, it will then print you a little Barcode Tag.

 You will exit the visitor entrance building, walk straight into the NYPD Lobby where again you will be stopped by the main lobby desk and they will take your ID and the barcode tag and print you a name badge with your photo on it then direct you to Room 110 which is 1st Floor, take right behind the Reception Desk.

 When you get to room 110, you will sign in, then they will instruct you to go down the hall to pay the $88.50, they give you your application number.

 After you pay, you return back to room 110, where you wait for them to call you to take your digital prints.

 After your prints are done they send you back out to the hallway to wait for a random Licensing Division employee to come out and speak to you about your application. Before coming out the person will go in and quickly review the docs in the portal and let you know what still is missing. They are just scanning for the required docs, they are not actually reviewing them. Bring all of your documents the day of fingerprinting, have them all organized in a folder so you can easily find any docs if needed. This person is not your investigator. This quick review is more of a licensing Triage and just trying to make sure you have all your stuff in the portal within the next month as it all needs to be there when your investigator is assigned to your file.

 The officer who came out and spoke to me was very nice, but he was a little hit or miss on the process, I had to correct him on 2 or 3 things, don't worry about it as this person is not your actual investigator.

Submitted Application on 8/30

Fingerprinted at 1 PP on 10/16

Move to Investigation Phase on 10/21

Originally Posted By Demeroma:
Last weekend I took the plunge and took the 18 hour NYC course at ROC Training at the Union Hill Gun Club. It was a long two days but I did get to meet some interesting people and learned some things such as the following:

There is no duty to inform in NYS but be aware that your firearm license will be linked to your driver's license.

We're required to have someone anywhere in New York State be a "safe guard" for our firearms in case we get incapacitated. They don't have to have a firearms license and can even be a felon   as long as they can provide a copy of their NYS driver's license or NYS ID and attest that they will safeguard your gun if for whatever reason you can't.

You'll need to take clear photos of the gun(s) you want to carry with the serial # visible, purchase receipt or purchase permit and upload them to the NYPD.

You can't have colored or two toned guns such as a different slide color than the frame. They're illegal in NYC.

You'll need to upload a photo of your lockbox or safe with the door open and door shut. It's recommended that the safe or lockbox be empty - no need for them to see what other goodies you may have.

You can have as many guns on your license but as a non-resident can only carry one. They recommend not listing more than 5 because the license doesn't have enough room for many more on the back.

You'll need 4 references notarized that you're character is such that you can have guns.

You'll also need a co-habitant form that basically states that those that are over 18 and live with you are OK with you having a gun.

If you sell one of your carry guns listed on your license, you must notify NYPD with all the info.

Copies of all your firearm licenses, permits, FPID must be uploaded.

Sensitive and Restricted places where you can't carry.  

US Law Shield is good to go in NYS with the optional 50 state coverage. Only NY TAC Defense is available for NY residents.

One rumor that was being circulated was that fingerprinting may be contracted out to a third party vendor so that 1 Police Plaza doesn't have to be bothered. Other than that, the application process will probably stay the same until it gets knocked out by the courts.

After the 16 hours of classroom we did a live fire qualification by shooting 5 rounds at a 25 by 11 inch target at 4 yards. In order to pass you had to have 4 out of the 5 rounds hit the target.

I probably forgot some other items covered in class but all of these hoops and hurdles serve no useful purpose other than being designed to discourage people from applying.  'eff 'em. I'm applying.


The following video covers the basics of applying online for a NYC license.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBL3N8x_I5s

Originally Posted By TheTallest:




What the fuck?

Fuck jumping through all of those hoops to exercise a right.

In layman's terms: A 2A rights group is suing NY State for its restrictions on non-resident concealed carry.

On Thursday, November 21, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) filed a new federal lawsuit challenging New York's ban on firearm carry by non-residents.

We will continue to teach Governor Hochul that the right to keep and bear arms doesn't end at New York's borders," said FPC President Brandon Combs. "We look forward to ending New York's immoral ban on carry by non-residents and allowing millions of peaceable people to exercise their rights as they visit the Empire State.

The complaint, known as Shaffer v. Quattrone, was filed in the United States District Court for the Western District of New York on behalf of four individual plaintiffs, supported by FPC. It challenges the fact that although New York State amended its firearm licensing scheme after Bruen, principally becoming a "shall issue" state, it quite purposely did not amend its prohibition on non-resident applications for firearms licenses. Thus, non-residents who do not own a home or business in New York (as well as those with a concealed carry license from other states) are unable to lawfully carry.

Originally Posted By NZT:
Uncharacteristically optimistic for me, *they* will beat us down every chance they get.

Originally Posted By Demeroma:
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Originally Posted By mhbaker81:


Congrats. Any lessons learned you'd care to share throughout the process? What guide, document, or website did you follow as your "checklist"?

I'm renewing NJ now. NYC is next.

What You Need To Know

The NYPD receives thousands of new applications for concealed carry permits since a U.S. Supreme Court decision struck down New York's restrictions

New Yorkers complain that their applications and licenses are in limbo, while rarely hearing back from NYPD license officials when asked for updates

NYPD license officials say that investigators have a large quantity of applications to handle