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Posted: 7/31/2024 3:30:40 PM EDT
Anyone familiar with requirements for a private range on my own property, plenty of acreage. A neighbor has one on the edge of the property line, seems like that's asking for trouble?
Link Posted: 7/31/2024 5:28:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bowhntr6pt] [#1]
Employ reasonable measures to keep the bullets from leaving your property is the only legal thing you need to worry about.

Every municipal "Noise Ordinance" I've ever seen has exclusions for firearms due to Florida's preemption law.

Bottom line... under the circumstances... is the range set up reasonably safe and capable of retaining fired projectiles?

ETA- if you're asking about the neighbor's range... see above.
Link Posted: 7/31/2024 5:42:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/31/2024 7:50:57 PM EDT
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I think the NRA has some documentation and even a course of building your own range.  If you follow those guidelines, you'd have a reasonable justification for how it is constructed.
Link Posted: 7/31/2024 8:43:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ursus_Americanus:
I think the NRA has some documentation and even a course of building your own range.  If you follow those guidelines, you'd have a reasonable justification for how it is constructed.
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They produce, or did at one time, a "Best Practices" manual on range construction... unnecessary for someone wanting to shoot on their own property.

Commercial application, perhaps.

I've outlined the legal aspects of a home range.

Pretty sure OP is not building a range, rather he/she is concerned about what the neighbor is doing.

ETA- read this...

Range Design
Link Posted: 8/1/2024 3:35:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas] [#5]
Used to really not matter until that guy in Gulf Breeze, FL fucked things up.

Now there are rules about distances from dwellings and "deemed safe." If you live on a .10a lot, you can't start your own private shooting range lol.

OP, you sound like you are probably fine. Build a big ass berm in case someone complains and they send the man to check.
Link Posted: 8/1/2024 3:49:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pallas:
Used to really not matter until that guy in Gulf Breeze, FL fucked things up.

Now there are rules about distances from dwellings and "deemed safe." If you live on a .10a lot, you can't start your own private shooting range lol.

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What are you talking about? Something new?

This....?

FSS 790.15

(4) Any person who recreationally discharges a firearm outdoors, including target shooting, in an area that the person knows or reasonably should know is primarily residential in nature and that has a residential density of one or more dwelling units per acre, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This subsection does not apply:

(a) To a person lawfully defending life or property or performing official duties requiring the discharge of a firearm;
(b) If, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property; or
(c) To a person who accidentally discharges a firearm.


Link Posted: 8/3/2024 7:32:44 AM EDT
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It's a twofold question, one for my own property but also if there are grounds to talk to the neighbor about his setup that I believe is a danger to my family. He is within 20' of the property line setup to shoot down hill, so that is good to keep from crossing the road. However he only has a small backstop at each shooting location and no side berms to keep jackets and ricochet's from crossing the property line. He likely has 50 steel targets setup, I'm jealous of what he has, I wouldn't mind having some of the same for myself. I just know shooting steel can leave the area he currently has. Fwiw, the range is probably 200 yards long and we have a road on the property line that we won't be able to safely use when he's engaged in target shooting.
Link Posted: 8/3/2024 8:01:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By truculenity:
It's a twofold question, one for my own property but also if there are grounds to talk to the neighbor about his setup that I believe is a danger to my family. He is within 20' of the property line setup to shoot down hill, so that is good to keep from crossing the road. However he only has a small backstop at each shooting location and no side berms to keep jackets and ricochet's from crossing the property line. He likely has 50 steel targets setup, I'm jealous of what he has, I wouldn't mind having some of the same for myself. I just know shooting steel can leave the area he currently has. Fwiw, the range is probably 200 yards long and we have a road on the property line that we won't be able to safely use when he's engaged in target shooting.
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As you can see by the law I posted it's a poorly written law.

What might be "safe" to one person might not be so to another. There is no set standard for distance that I'm aware of by statute.

The very last part of the law simply says no matter where you are, your discharging of a firearm needs to be reasonably safe... IMO shooting steel targets adds a different dynamic as we all know steel causes bullets to splatter and sometimes ricochet.

I'm very picky as to where I shoot now days when I'm not shooting on my own property. The way things are now days with lawsuits and such, I'd be concerned with getting wrapped up in some legal mess.

No reason not to have a talk with the neighbor, maybe recommend you both pool resources and build a joint range with better protective measures.

With the steel, limited backstops, and close distance, I don't think you are being unreasonable in your concerns.
Link Posted: 8/3/2024 3:30:04 PM EDT
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Build your range to contain bullets.  Make sure anyone that shoots at your range doesn't shoot over your bullet catcher.  I wish people near me applied those same, simple rules.
Link Posted: 8/3/2024 7:32:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bowhntr6pt:


What are you talking about? Something new?

This....?

FSS 790.15

(4) Any person who recreationally discharges a firearm outdoors, including target shooting, in an area that the person knows or reasonably should know is primarily residential in nature and that has a residential density of one or more dwelling units per acre, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This subsection does not apply:

(a) To a person lawfully defending life or property or performing official duties requiring the discharge of a firearm;
(b) If, under the circumstances, the discharge does not pose a reasonably foreseeable risk to life, safety, or property; or
(c) To a person who accidentally discharges a firearm.


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I’d say so. I remember the hub bub after they came down on the guy I mentioned, they were batting around a bunch of ideas.

It’s kind of one of those things where you exercise some common sense, or the powers that be try to exercise their common sense on you.  
Link Posted: 8/3/2024 8:01:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pallas:


I’d say so. I remember the hub bub after they came down on the guy I mentioned, they were batting around a bunch of ideas.

It’s kind of one of those things where you exercise some common sense, or the powers that be try to exercise their common sense on you.  
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Agree.

With that said, there’s no statutory defined distance, which is what I thought you were saying.

It’s purely a subjective law in my opinion for the reason I stated.

Link Posted: 8/8/2024 11:00:18 PM EDT
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If you have trees near his targets look at the trees for ricochets.. My old range had 300 yards of trees behind my berm and I would still find marks on trees from ricochets off of steel..
Link Posted: 8/10/2024 11:26:03 AM EDT
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FPNI.

Keep your bullets confined to your own property is pretty much THE rule in Florida.

As it should be.

Setting up so the muzzle blast isn't pointed at your nearest neighbor is a nice courtesy.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 1:47:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By truculenity:
It's a twofold question, one for my own property but also if there are grounds to talk to the neighbor about his setup that I believe is a danger to my family. He is within 20' of the property line setup to shoot down hill, so that is good to keep from crossing the road. However he only has a small backstop at each shooting location and no side berms to keep jackets and ricochet's from crossing the property line. He likely has 50 steel targets setup, I'm jealous of what he has, I wouldn't mind having some of the same for myself. I just know shooting steel can leave the area he currently has. Fwiw, the range is probably 200 yards long and we have a road on the property line that we won't be able to safely use when he's engaged in target shooting.
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It's obvious you both have the same interest, introduce yourself and work together toward a common goal. Are you from out of state?
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