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10/13/2024 6:58:45 PM EDT
If someone could imbed id appreciate it.

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10/14/2024 11:43:37 PM EDT
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The Forgotten Illinois Suppressor Case
11/7/2024 2:09:09 PM EDT
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Why?
In what universe are suppressors becoming legal in Illinois?

11/8/2024 6:38:43 PM EDT
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The Judge who found the AWB unconstitutional today is also the judge hearing the suppressor ban case....so we should do well with that.  Up to the 7th Circuit to not screw us over...which they most likely will, then it goes to SCOTUS.
11/22/2024 8:22:25 PM EDT
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I would love this to come to fruition, but this seems like wasted attorneys hours. Pritzker Would pull some kind of stunt, legal, or not, to block this from passing under his rule. A shell bill passed at night made Illinois the worst state in the union for firearms.

The two lady judges who got $1 million each for their Supreme Court Support of Pritzker and somehow managed to say they weren’t biased shows how deep the corruption runs.  And all the anti Trump people want targets to focus on.  This would get every anti Trump Karen in the suburbs motivated.

We have to play defense in Illinois.  

I hope I eat crow but come on. Clickbait.
11/24/2024 4:59:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:
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The one we are in, given some time.

Or had you not noticed the shape of the 2A fight across the country?
11/25/2024 1:27:45 AM EDT
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The same universe  in which  SBR’s  eventually became legal to own in Illinois- this universe.

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11/28/2024 10:05:38 AM EDT
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It is my understanding that you can get a short-barreled rifle in Illinois for WWII reenactments, which was not always the case.  So, some progress there.  Some Federal fish and wildlife agencies are now getting suppressors for their .40 pistols.  So, people are getting used to the idea.  It is ultimately a matter of safety to protect our ears.  Only in the movies do suppressors hide a crime.  Pritzker does not care about preventing crime, only getting elected president.  If an issue won't advance that, he doesn't care.  Also, in this last election Trump only lost Illinois by 8 percent, so the trend is in our favor.  I am generally pessimistic, but I am going to stay a while longer.  WE cannot give up.
11/28/2024 3:45:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Skunkhunter:
It is my understanding that you can get a short-barreled rifle in Illinois for WWII reenactments, which was not always the case.  So, some progress there.  Some Federal fish and wildlife agencies are now getting suppressors for their .40 pistols.  So, people are getting used to the idea.  It is ultimately a matter of safety to protect our ears.  Only in the movies do suppressors hide a crime.  Pritzker does not care about preventing crime, only getting elected president.  If an issue won't advance that, he doesn't care.  Also, in this last election Trump only lost Illinois by 8 percent, so the trend is in our favor.  I am generally pessimistic, but I am going to stay a while longer.  WE cannot give up.
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The SBR law was written under the pretense of reenactors using SBRs during their activities.
That is why you have to ALWAYS have a C&R to have an SBR in Illinois; the law was worked through as a justification for the shorter barrel length.

The real kicker is there is a OAL minimum:  26”

That removes almost every SBR I was interested in.
That and more likely than not the vast majority of SBRs in Illinois are registered post 68 so that means the ISP has a list to cross reference against registrations. I’d like to hope the people who registered were SBR holders.
11/28/2024 3:47:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:


The same universe  in which  SBR’s  eventually became legal to own in Illinois- this universe.

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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Originally Posted By FADALdude:
Why?
In what universe are suppressors becoming legal in Illinois?



The same universe  in which  SBR’s  eventually became legal to own in Illinois- this universe.



My county turned this last election.
Sorry I’ve lost complete faith in the state of Illinois.
I’m stuck here unfortunately.
11/29/2024 11:06:42 AM EDT
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The real kicker is there is a OAL minimum:  26”
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This is why I changed my opinion about AR pistols
12/5/2024 8:08:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:


The SBR law was written under the pretense of reenactors using SBRs during their activities.
That is why you have to ALWAYS have a C&R to have an SBR in Illinois; the law was worked through as a justification for the shorter barrel length.

The real kicker is there is a OAL minimum:  26”

That removes almost every SBR I was interested in.
That and more likely than not the vast majority of SBRs in Illinois are registered post 68 so that means the ISP has a list to cross reference against registrations. I’d like to hope the people who registered were SBR holders.
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So when you measure its anticipated length, plan the build with a longer stock and make it happen.
12/10/2024 5:04:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FADALdude:
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It wasn't that long ago I thought the same thing about CCW.  Like CCW, it will have to come through the courts.

A few years back they took a group of politicians down to the ISP range at Pawnee.  Shot several firearms with and without suppressors in an effort to convince politicians that Hollywood and real life are different.  The response was the same rubbish the said to justify never passing CCW a "blood in the streets" and the "wild west".

I guess there is also hope that the AKguy get named director of the ATF.

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