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Posted: 8/14/2024 6:19:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sbhaven]
This time it's to pay for "improving the state’s electric vehicle charging grid".
Eversource customers will see a rate increase of 0.3845 cents per kilowatt hour (kWh).
United Illuminating customers will see a rate hike of 0.4592 cents per kWh.

PURA approves rate hike for Eversource, United Illuminating customers

Many people in Connecticut have been feeling sticker shock over their electric bills this summer, and rates are increasing again.

The Connecticut Public Utilities Regulatory Authority (PURA) voted Wednesday morning to increase rates for both Eversource and United Illuminating once again. The latest hikes are designed to help pay for improving the state’s electric vehicle charging grid.

Eversource customers will see a rate increase of 0.3845 cents per kilowatt hour (kWh).

“We estimate that this increase for a typical residential customer using 700kWh a month will be an additional $3 per month from September 1 through April 30, 2025,” an Eversource spokesperson said.

United Illuminating customers will see a rate hike of 0.4592 cents per kWh.

In a statement posted to Facebook., Rep. Vincent Candelora and Sen. Stephen Harding said PURA’s actions during the meeting will further burden customers.

“These rate adjustments for Eversource and United Illuminating of an additional $80 million starting in September to enhance the EV charging grid will further burden ratepayers already struggling to pay their monthly electric bills,” they said.

State Republicans have been calling on Gov. Ned Lamont (D-Conn.) to hold a special session on climbing electric rates, saying they want consumer choice instead of electric vehicle mandates.

Town of Vernon releases petition opposing Eversource rate increase
“We appreciate PURA’s decision on this important matter. Thanks to Governor Lamont, his administration brought together the energy companies and key stakeholders like the Office of the Attorney General, DEEP, PURA, and OCC to forge a path forward to continue the state’s electric vehicle rebate program,” Eversource said. “Helping get more electric vehicles on the road is good for air quality and helping the state fight climate change, which we support. We will continue to advocate for regulatory policies which provide for stable and predictable rates for customers while also supporting Connecticut’s public policy goals.”

News 8 has reached out to United Illuminating for comment on Wednesday’s meeting.

Eversource customers were shocked to see they were billed hundreds more than usual for their July electric bill.

Last week, Eversource said the bills are higher partly due to “public benefit charges,” which they said cover costs for state-required and approved programs and policies.
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Link Posted: 8/14/2024 8:11:39 PM EDT
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Maybe the assholes that vote for demonrats will wake up otherwise we all will pay for these bull shit projects that have no purpose. Let people that buy an EV pay for their charging at home not the rest of us. Dirty air from across the country comes through here, our attempts to "protect the climate", I almost puked typing that horse shit, is useless. Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money. Also PURA is an appointed not elected group with NO accountability to citizens, talk about taxation without representation.
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 12:09:47 AM EDT
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That public benefits portion of the bill is huge now.

My home Eversource bill was $780 this month!
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 5:26:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JeepinMaxx:
That public benefits portion of the bill is huge now.

My home Eversource bill was $780 this month!
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Yep, lots of complaints about what happened recently with people's July and August utility bills. The rates (generating rates I think) for both Utility Co's went down July 1st, but the state PURA jacked up the public benefits portion of the bill so people's bill went up not down.
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 9:13:41 AM EDT
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people cant afford an ev let alone monthly electric rates....they also want to push solar panels which is a scam!
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 1:37:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/15/2024 1:48:53 PM EDT
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LOL has any Change.org petition actually worked?

Edit to add: All they will do is remove the charge from the utility bill and tack it on somewhere else as a hidden charge. They have to; because of the green programs they're demanding/funding require it. And the people who sign the petition will pat themselves on the back and claim it was a victory, even though they'll simply paying the fee somewhere else. And most of the people who signed the petition will mindlessly pull the lever for D in November.
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 3:37:15 PM EDT
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Communists doing what commies do.  Bend over comrades.

If Harris is elected you will miss the good ol' days of Joe Biden.

Link Posted: 8/15/2024 4:28:30 PM EDT
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Eversource customer here.

I've paid my bill in full and on time the last 10 years or so since I was a renter to now being a homeowner in CT.

This last bill the Public Benefits bullshit was 24% of my entire bill.

I logged in and paid my bill minus the $86.23 for "Public Benefits" I'll do the same next month then look at dragging it out with the payment plans they offer.

Why is Eversource involved with "Public Benefits" anyways? You're a utility company just sell me electricity. Oh the state is mandating you do this? Tell the State of CT and PURA to suck a dick and bypass all the dumb shit they want and sell directly to the consumer.

It's sad.
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 4:40:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By downstate:


I logged in and paid my bill minus the $86.23 for "Public Benefits" I'll do the same next month then look at dragging it out with the payment plans they offer.


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Excellent! Now if we could get everyone to do this we would really have something!
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 5:24:30 PM EDT
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On my UI bill the Public Benefit charge is 16% of the last bill. The local delivery charge however is 43% of the last bill.

On the UI bill the Public Benefits breaks out as follows:

Energy Assistance Costs - kWh x $0.027419
Energy Efficiency Programs - kWh x $0.006000
Renewable Energy Investment - kWh x $0.001000
New England Grid Operator Cost - kWh x $0.002040
State Mandated Energy Purchases - kWh x $0.017599
Customer Produced Energy - kWh x $0.004343
Misc. & Other Mandates - kWh x $0.003377
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 8:54:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sbhaven:LOL has any Change.org petition actually worked?D
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Actually, yes, but you keep doing nothing except bitching about it on the internet; I'm sure that'll get it fixed right up
Link Posted: 8/15/2024 11:46:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Blaster3094:


Excellent! Now if we could get everyone to do this we would really have something!
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Originally Posted By downstate:


I logged in and paid my bill minus the $86.23 for "Public Benefits" I'll do the same next month then look at dragging it out with the payment plans they offer.




Excellent! Now if we could get everyone to do this we would really have something!



Yes you would have something. A judgement against you and a lower credit score.
Link Posted: 8/16/2024 7:58:07 AM EDT
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Connecticut residents outraged over ‘insane’ electricity bills

Some customers have seen their electricity bills go up by hundreds, if not thousands of dollars this summer, and a new petition is calling for the governor to take action immediately.

“It’s absolutely insane, it’s more than most people’s mortgages,” Scott Pearson, who started the petition on change.org, said.

Pearson says numerous people have been sending them their electricity bills. One statement he showed News 8 had charges totaling just under $3,200, with $800 in public benefit charges. Another bill listed on the petition shows a bill of over $950 with $200 in public benefit charges.

“The disconnect between the governor and his citizens is just astronomical,” Pearson said. “Everyone is very, very upset about it.”

“A couple weeks ago when it was really hot, I went to service a senior citizen, and I walked in the apartment,” Pearson said. “It must’ve been 100 degrees and I said ‘why don’t you put on the air conditioner?’ and she looked at me and said ‘I just got my Eversource bill, I can’t afford it.'”

Pearson has started an online petition calling for the governor to revoke “public benefits” charges and for the Public Regulatory Utilities Authority (PURA) to reverse Wednesday’s rate hike. His petition has gained nearly 40,000 signatures.

Meanwhile, New Britain Mayor Erin Stewart is voicing her concerns on social media.

“I’m pissed about my Eversource bill this month,” she said in a video post on X. “The legislature calls them ‘public benefit’ fees. But let’s be real, it’s just a hidden tax that hides elected officials from real accountability.”

A spokesperson for the governor’s office told News 8 “Gov. Lamont agrees that Connecticut residents are paying too much for electricity and has said he would be open to considering practical solutions to help lower costs in a special session. This is not a partisan issue as we all agree that we need a solution to lower energy costs.”

Meanwhile, a spokesperson for PURA said

“The Authority is actually currently in receipt of two motions to reopen/reconsider the RAM decision – one from the Energy and Technology Committee Leadership and one from the Office of Consumer Counsel. Our processes allow parties seven days to comment before the matter is taken up. Since these are open matters before us, as a quasi-judicial agency we cannot provide comments at this time.”
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Link Posted: 8/16/2024 9:16:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By User55645:
Actually, yes, but you keep doing nothing except bitching about it on the internet; I'm sure that'll get it fixed right up
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Change.org IS a form of bitching about a topic on the internet.

Local media is talking about this topic because so many people are bitching about it, and because those local media folks likely looked at their power bills and were likely shocked at the cost. People internet posting screen captures of their power bill showing the amount being paid to the Public Benefit category is opening people's eyes. People complaining to their local reps is getting attention and causing some to openly complain publicly about it. Right now its all talk and internet bitching. It remains to be seen what, if anything, politicians or PURA will actually do... if anything. No doubt some are hoping this all blows over and the money from the fee keep rolling in.
Link Posted: 8/16/2024 4:28:13 PM EDT
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Obligatory solar post.

No bill $9.62 as usual.

Company I work for gives us $500 for referring a sale. If we install your system I’ll just give you the $500 or whatever it comes out to after taxes.

I’d be your Sr Project Manager and oversee the design and construction. We have great install crews and only use the best materials and equipment.

Been at it for 17 years. Reasonably sure its not a scam.


Message or text for details.

Link Posted: 8/16/2024 9:57:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Obligatory solar post.

No bill $9.62 as usual.

Company I work for gives us $500 for referring a sale. If we install your system I’ll just give you the $500 or whatever it comes out to after taxes.

I’d be your Sr Project Manager and oversee the design and construction. We have great install crews and only use the best materials and equipment.

Been at it for 17 years. Reasonably sure its not a scam.


Message or text for details.

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What company? Can you spell out the math for a typical house on Eversource with a 5-600 per month peak summer bill?
Link Posted: 8/16/2024 10:25:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PGAEMU:


What company? Can you spell out the math for a typical house on Eversource with a 5-600 per month peak summer bill?
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I'm about the same for my summer peak so I'd be interested in the math as well.

I also have a 100 amp service and assume I'd have to upgrade to 200 amp for solar?

Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/17/2024 10:20:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By User55645:

Actually, yes, but you keep doing nothing except bitching about it on the internet; I'm sure that'll get it fixed right up
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Really? What has been solved or changed using any petition online or otherwise?
Link Posted: 8/17/2024 10:28:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By downstate:


I'm about the same for my summer peak so I'd be interested in the math as well.

I also have a 100 amp service and assume I'd have to upgrade to 200 amp for solar?

Thanks!
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When we leased our solar system the price we paid for power was just a little lower than from the grid. We saved on the delivery charges and other crappy charges. Our Electricity bill from solar goes up 3% every year by contract. However, that is much lower than increases from the grid and savings are now substantial.
Link Posted: 8/17/2024 10:45:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sbhaven:
This time it's to pay for "improving the state’s electric vehicle charging grid".
Eversource customers will see a rate increase of 0.3845 cents per kilowatt hour (kWh).
United Illuminating customers will see a rate hike of 0.4592 cents per kWh.

PURA approves rate hike for Eversource, United Illuminating customers

Many people in Connecticut have been feeling sticker shock over their electric bills this summer, and rates are increasing again.

The Connecticut Public Utilities Regulatory Authority (PURA) voted Wednesday morning to increase rates for both Eversource and United Illuminating once again. The latest hikes are designed to help pay for improving the state’s electric vehicle charging grid.

Eversource customers will see a rate increase of 0.3845 cents per kilowatt hour (kWh).

“We estimate that this increase for a typical residential customer using 700kWh a month will be an additional $3 per month from September 1 through April 30, 2025,” an Eversource spokesperson said.

United Illuminating customers will see a rate hike of 0.4592 cents per kWh.

In a statement posted to Facebook., Rep. Vincent Candelora and Sen. Stephen Harding said PURA’s actions during the meeting will further burden customers.

“These rate adjustments for Eversource and United Illuminating of an additional $80 million starting in September to enhance the EV charging grid will further burden ratepayers already struggling to pay their monthly electric bills,” they said.

State Republicans have been calling on Gov. Ned Lamont (D-Conn.) to hold a special session on climbing electric rates, saying they want consumer choice instead of electric vehicle mandates.

Town of Vernon releases petition opposing Eversource rate increase
“We appreciate PURA’s decision on this important matter. Thanks to Governor Lamont, his administration brought together the energy companies and key stakeholders like the Office of the Attorney General, DEEP, PURA, and OCC to forge a path forward to continue the state’s electric vehicle rebate program,” Eversource said. “Helping get more electric vehicles on the road is good for air quality and helping the state fight climate change, which we support. We will continue to advocate for regulatory policies which provide for stable and predictable rates for customers while also supporting Connecticut’s public policy goals.”

News 8 has reached out to United Illuminating for comment on Wednesday’s meeting.

Eversource customers were shocked to see they were billed hundreds more than usual for their July electric bill.

Last week, Eversource said the bills are higher partly due to “public benefit charges,” which they said cover costs for state-required and approved programs and policies.
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It is more than that. The state gave the utility companies to add this charge so they can recover all the money not paid during the COVID lockdowns.
Link Posted: 8/17/2024 11:16:37 AM EDT
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The more you fcuk people the more the love it!
Link Posted: 8/17/2024 1:58:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Obligatory solar post.

No bill $9.62 as usual.

Company I work for gives us $500 for referring a sale. If we install your system I’ll just give you the $500 or whatever it comes out to after taxes.

I’d be your Sr Project Manager and oversee the design and construction. We have great install crews and only use the best materials and equipment.

Been at it for 17 years. Reasonably sure its not a scam.


Message or text for details.

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Solar is not a scam. Many solar companies are scammers or at least devious.

The payback is still not there, IMHO. I was quoted for my 1600 sq ft house $35,000 for a system. That puts the payback at 11 years based on this years bills. This is providing there are no failures that need repair.

I got turned off to the whole used car vibe of the sales person who came out. Starts at over $40k then I mentioned cash and no financing then it was $35k, then if I financed it was $25k but the interest rate was something like 12%. Then the company tried to file a loan application and that was a whole shit show too. The process turned me off as did the cost.
Link Posted: 8/18/2024 10:35:39 AM EDT
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alot of people think, if i have solar i dont need a generator, not true, you have to invest big bucks into storage batteries which dont last long..i heard a guy who had alot of acres of land and wanted to go off the grid so he wanted to buy panels to put up...they would not sell them to him, cause they they dont want people to go off the grid, i thought that was very telling..
Link Posted: 8/18/2024 10:57:36 PM EDT
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Public benefit charge was $68.

2 months ago it was 20
Link Posted: 8/19/2024 9:12:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By edgephoto:The payback is still not there, IMHO.
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Originally Posted By edgephoto:The payback is still not there, IMHO.

If you can buy and install everything yourself, you should be able to have it paid off w/in ~8yrs and it doesn't really "cost you anything". I say this because you can get a 0% gov't loan, for renewables, and pay the loan instead of a monthly electric bill. So, you're just diverting payment.

Originally Posted By remarcablearms: Really? What has been solved or changed using any petition online or otherwise?

Not to sound like a dick, but, if you really cared, you could've done a simple google search. Change.org puts out impact reports, which outlines some of the most impactful annual petitions, from around the world.

Juneteenth National Holiday was started as a change.org petition!
Link Posted: 8/19/2024 9:24:48 AM EDT
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dbl tap
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 4:52:19 PM EDT
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Email from CT Republicans RE the call for a special session to lower electricity bills:

It’s been one week since every Republican legislator in Connecticut (there are 65) signed a petition to call a special session to lower electricity bills and control utility costs long term. After one week, NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT HAS SIGNED (there are 122). Governor Lamont can say “It’s not a partisan issue”…but apparently, his fellow Democrats in the Legislature disagree.

Call and email your legislators and tell them it’s time to put people over politics. Visit specialsessionct.com to urge them to sign the petition!

The proposals outlined in our petition include:
•Moving "Public Benefit Charges" permanently off ratepayer bills
• Providing immediate electric rate relief by reallocating unobligated end-of-year American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds and re-examining budgetary options that could make available additional dollars to (a) cover the portions of rate increases associated with the moratorium on electric service shutoffs and the costs associated with electric vehicle charging programs and (b) provide additional rate relief to ratepayers to the maximum extent possible as funds allow
• Capping all future Power Purchase Agreements to no more than 150% over the wholesale electric market price
• Redefining Class I renewable energy sources to enable competition to lower the cost of these energy sources
• Restoring the independence of the Public Utility Regulatory Authority (PURA), by separating it from the Department of Energy and Environmental Protection (DEEP).
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Link Posted: 9/3/2024 8:54:55 PM EDT
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Something close to 80% of the public benefit charge is for the fixed rate contract that was agreed to in order to keep millstone running. The other ~20% is for the money eversource didn’t get from non-paying customers after the state let them off the hook. All of it is based on things decided by CT politicians. The bill either lands on electricity rate payers or the public at large. Wouldn’t break my heart to see it paid out of the general fund. At least then it would have to be debated every couple years in the budgetary process.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 10:56:56 PM EDT
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Latest Eversource bill arrived today. $101.24 - Public Benefit charge.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 11:54:31 PM EDT
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My public benefits portion was $166 this month - 29% of my total bill!
Link Posted: 9/4/2024 9:45:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By User55645:

If you can buy and install everything yourself, you should be able to have it paid off w/in ~8yrs and it doesn't really "cost you anything". I say this because you can get a 0% gov't loan, for renewables, and pay the loan instead of a monthly electric bill. So, you're just diverting payment.


Not to sound like a dick, but, if you really cared, you could've done a simple google search. Change.org puts out impact reports, which outlines some of the most impactful annual petitions, from around the world.

Juneteenth National Holiday was started as a change.org petition!
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Well sure throw enough shi* at a wall and something Will stick. How about a percentage of success. If they score 1 out of 1000 I would call that useless.
Are you really gonna use the liberal wonder called  Juneteenth an accomplishment. That's easy. Try to find any conservative issue. Or one related to anything other than liberal causes that have successful.
Link Posted: 9/4/2024 8:13:36 PM EDT
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Still waiting on the math where it makes sense to go solar. If the economic benefit is there lll definitely do it.
Link Posted: 9/4/2024 9:45:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PGAEMU:
Still waiting on the math where it makes sense to go solar. If the economic benefit is there lll definitely do it.
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I have done the math several times and I just can't make it work. Be careful as these outfits use fuzzy math and fast talking to get you to sign.

I had a place come out and the salesman tried to get me to sign loan papers. The interest rate was crazy high, like 20%+, and the total price was way higher than he was talking. Had some excuse to explain the price. Then when I balked the price dropped over $15,000 and the interest rate went way down too. That film flam bullshit turned me off totally. I would not use that company. Their business practice is shady and they don't really like to give you info on what they are installing.

I rather just do my best to be frugal, when solar stops being the 21st century aluminum siding and it makes financial sense I am game. You are looking at like a 10-15 yr payback providing nothing goes wrong.
Link Posted: 9/5/2024 9:29:30 AM EDT
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I have done the math several times and I just can't make it work. Be careful as these outfits use fuzzy math and fast talking to get you to sign.

I had a place come out and the salesman tried to get me to sign loan papers. The interest rate was crazy high, like 20%+, and the total price was way higher than he was talking. Had some excuse to explain the price. Then when I balked the price dropped over $15,000 and the interest rate went way down too. That film flam bullshit turned me off totally. I would not use that company. Their business practice is shady and they don't really like to give you info on what they are installing.

I rather just do my best to be frugal, when solar stops being the 21st century aluminum siding and it makes financial sense I am game. You are looking at like a 10-15 yr payback providing nothing goes wrong.
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Don't forget about the many issues Solar brings. You may need to replace your roof first. Is your roof capable of handling the load? What if the installation leaks? A poor installation can result in fire.
Gov Guide to Fire Safety with Solar Systems

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Which is why I'd never put panels on the roof despite having a new roof done 8 months ago and I have full sun all day.
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 7:33:03 AM EDT
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Well sure throw enough shi* at a wall and something Will stick. How about a percentage of success. If they score 1 out of 1000 I would call that useless.
Are you really gonna use the liberal wonder called  Juneteenth an accomplishment. That's easy. Try to find any conservative issue. Or one related to anything other than liberal causes that have successful.
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Again, if you really cared you could look it up yourself and get more examples. You really expected me to make you a list?
I used Juneteenth because of it's publicity and the chance you've heard of it, that's all. But you had to go on a rant...womp womp
Link Posted: 9/6/2024 3:40:03 PM EDT
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Business owners express frustration over electric rates during Bristol discussion

Gina Pellrine said her restaurant’s electric bill is the highest it’s been in 36 years.

“My bill for my business was $2,900 this morning,” she said.

She joined other small business owners on Friday at a breakfast hosted at Rodd’s Restaurant in Bristol, where state Sen. Henri Martin (R-District 31) listened to constituents during his monthly “First Friday” discussions.

“Well, I guess the first one on top of everyone’s mind is using the ARPA funds [to help],” Martin said, adding that he’s heard $700 million is available.

Martin said a portion of those funds would be applied to rates paid by customers.

Eversource has said that its costs increased due to a legal ruling during the pandemic that prevented utility companies from turning off services because of nonpayment.

“I worked throughout COVID,” Melanie McKinley, a small business owner, said. “It’s not my fault that other people can’t pay their bills. There [are] other means of making money.”

Martin said a solution can’t wait.
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Link Posted: 9/6/2024 3:50:41 PM EDT
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Whenever anyone complains to media about anything government related the first question that should be asked is: "Who and what party did you vote for?"
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 6:54:24 PM EDT
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Vote for socialists and your will have socialist laws. This state is a shit hole in distress and until people vote the demonrat scum out they will continue to live under the jack boot of the left.
Link Posted: 9/7/2024 7:53:48 PM EDT
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Vote for socialists and your will have socialist laws. This state is a shit hole in distress and until people vote the demonrat scum out they will continue to live under the jack boot of the left.
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I fear CT is hopeless. Too many riding in the wagon and too few pulling it. The Democrats will continue to cater to the freeloaders and keep them on the plantation sucking on the government tit.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:35:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PGAEMU:


What company? Can you spell out the math for a typical house on Eversource with a 5-600 per month peak summer bill?
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I work at Earthlight Technologies in Ellington.

Im not in sales, cant figure the math for you but I know the average payback is 6-9 years if purchasing outright. Might be shorter now with this new Eversource nonsense.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:36:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By downstate:


I'm about the same for my summer peak so I'd be interested in the math as well.

I also have a 100 amp service and assume I'd have to upgrade to 200 amp for solar?

Thanks!
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No need for a service upgrade, I install on 100a services all the time. May need to update some equipment or wire etc if anything is overly rusty or in decay.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:41:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By middletownbob:
alot of people think, if i have solar i dont need a generator, not true, you have to invest big bucks into storage batteries which dont last long..i heard a guy who had alot of acres of land and wanted to go off the grid so he wanted to buy panels to put up...they would not sell them to him, cause they they dont want people to go off the grid, i thought that was very telling..
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You can have solar and a generator.


You can go off the grid if you want, kind of. There are laws in CT that say you need the grid to be considered a full time home. Lose the grid and you become a 3-season home.Its dumb as fuck and will have to change as battery tech improves.
Link Posted: 9/8/2024 8:43:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By edgephoto:



Solar is not a scam. Many solar companies are scammers or at least devious.

The payback is still not there, IMHO. I was quoted for my 1600 sq ft house $35,000 for a system. That puts the payback at 11 years based on this years bills. This is providing there are no failures that need repair.

I got turned off to the whole used car vibe of the sales person who came out. Starts at over $40k then I mentioned cash and no financing then it was $35k, then if I financed it was $25k but the interest rate was something like 12%. Then the company tried to file a loan application and that was a whole shit show too. The process turned me off as did the cost.
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11 years isnt a terrible payback. A quality system will run for 25-30 years with minimal maintenance.

Agreed on your other points, but I dont like any salesman in any industry. Lol. If youre an educated consumer you dont ever need anybody to “sell” you anything, youve already done your homework and made your decision. Just need someone to get me the paperwork
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If you can buy and install everything yourself, you should be able to have it paid off w/in ~8yrs and it doesn't really "cost you anything". I say this because you can get a 0% gov't loan, for renewables, and pay the loan instead of a monthly electric bill. So, you're just diverting payment.


Not to sound like a dick, but, if you really cared, you could've done a simple google search. Change.org puts out impact reports, which outlines some of the most impactful annual petitions, from around the world.

Juneteenth National Holiday was started as a change.org petition!
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Many people will see an 8 year payoff even when professionally installed.

I installed my own and had like a 1.5 year payoff.


Everyone is going to be different depending on their usage profile, available roof surface, roof pitch and azimuth.
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Don't forget about the many issues Solar brings. You may need to replace your roof first. Is your roof capable of handling the load? What if the installation leaks? A poor installation can result in fire.
Gov Guide to Fire Safety with Solar Systems

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All true and good points.
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Which is why I'd never put panels on the roof despite having a new roof done 8 months ago and I have full sun all day.
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It definitely requires faith in your installer and the products they use. I installed 35 panels on my own brand new roof and didnt bat an eye. But I know what Im doing and the product I used has a long long track record of success that I have seen with my own experience. I have zero concerns of it leaking.


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It definitely requires faith in your installer and the products they use. I installed 35 panels on my own brand new roof and didnt bat an eye. But I know what Im doing and the product I used has a long long track record of success that I have seen with my own experience. I have zero concerns of it leaking.


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Originally Posted By WoodBurner-CT:
Which is why I'd never put panels on the roof despite having a new roof done 8 months ago and I have full sun all day.


It definitely requires faith in your installer and the products they use. I installed 35 panels on my own brand new roof and didnt bat an eye. But I know what Im doing and the product I used has a long long track record of success that I have seen with my own experience. I have zero concerns of it leaking.





The lease and Ppa won't let you out 35 panels up. They only give you enough to match your load. So if you want that you have to buy outright
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The lease and Ppa won't let you out 35 panels up. They only give you enough to match your load. So if you want that you have to buy outright
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I always suggest against leases and especially PPA’s if possible. Im basically anti-PPA.
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Residents to rally against high utility rates outside Capitol

Organizers plan to speak out against high utility rates at the Capitol Thursday.

The rally starts at 9 a.m. and will go until 1 p.m.

Over 130 people posted to social media to say they’ll be there.

It comes after residents across the state say they’ve seen their electricity bills go up by hundreds, if not thousands over the summer.

Utility customers say one of their major complaints is from the public benefits charges.

The utility companies say they’re using that extra charge to recover costs from the pandemic and to invest in EV programs.

On top of that, the Public Utilities Regulatory Authority approved a rate hike for United Illuminating and Eversource customers last month. Eversource said that would add an extra $3 to the average customer’s bill.

Upset over your Eversource bill? You’re not alone
Last month, the organizer of a petition calling for the public benefits charge to be removed told News 8 the “insane” bill are more than most people’s mortgages.

“The disconnect between the governor and his citizens is just astronomical…Everyone is very very very upset about it,” Scott Pearson said.

On Thursday morning, UI spokesperson Sarah Wall Fliotsos shared the following statement with News 8:

“We understand the increased costs of policymakers’ public policy initiatives in the Public Benefits Charge have been difficult for our customers, particularly over the summer due to increased usage in Connecticut’s hottest month on record. But we also know that continuing to defer these costs will only result in higher bills next year, and that ‘kicking the can down the road’ is, in fact, why customers experienced rate shock this summer.

To mitigate rate shock like this going forward, we urge PURA to return to forward-looking forecasts that stabilized electric bills for decades, and we ask that legislators consider these bill impacts for the programs they may implement during future legislative sessions.”
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