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So, Buds screwed up my layaway and apparently did not have the Colt M4A1 SOCOM that I've been paying for the last couple of months....
Left without that option, I figure I'm going to have to build one of these and was wondering if the LE6920HBPW configuration was basically the same as the most recent SOCOM minus the KAC RAS, ambi safety, and M4A1 roll mark? Anything else I'm missing that would be different? |
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So, Buds screwed up my layaway and apparently did not have the Colt M4A1 SOCOM that I've been paying for the last couple of months.... Left without that option, I figure I'm going to have to build one of these and was wondering if the LE6920HBPW configuration was basically the same as the most recent SOCOM minus the KAC RAS, ambi safety, and M4A1 roll mark? Anything else I'm missing that would be different? View Quote |
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Quoted: I think you pretty much nailed it. The similarities are the barrel and the type of pinned flash hider used. You’d be able to solve for everything except the roll mark. View Quote |
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Just picked up a LE6920HBPW and one other difference is that it comes with a Magpul polymer BUIS instead of the metal Flip-Up on the SOCOM. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I think you pretty much nailed it. The similarities are the barrel and the type of pinned flash hider used. You’d be able to solve for everything except the roll mark. |
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Picked one of these up from Buds when they went on sale and honestly still have no idea what to do with it. It's been sitting in my safe and unfired since. I thought I would file a Form 1 on the lower, but haven't done that. I also thought I might paint it and turn it into some sort of clone, but a haven't brought myself to do that either
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Picked one of these up from Buds when they went on sale and honestly still have no idea what to do with it. It's been sitting in my safe and unfired since. I thought I would file a Form 1 on the lower, but haven't done that. I also thought I might paint it and turn it into some sort of clone, but a haven't brought myself to do that either View Quote |
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Picked one of these up from Buds when they went on sale and honestly still have no idea what to do with it. It's been sitting in my safe and unfired since. I thought I would file a Form 1 on the lower, but haven't done that. I also thought I might paint it and turn it into some sort of clone, but a haven't brought myself to do that either View Quote |
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Quoted: That’s what I did. Missed out on the SOCOM, but did pick up a LE6920HBPW, which I mocked up. Added the Matech rear sight, KAC RAS and grip, and found a Colt ambi safety. Too cheap to buy a M68 RDS, especially when I had a perfectly good Aimpoint Pro just sitting around unused. http://i.imgur.com/yJtzP8P.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: That’s what I did. Missed out on the SOCOM, but did pick up a LE6920HBPW, which I mocked up. Added the Matech rear sight, KAC RAS and grip, and found a Colt ambi safety. Too cheap to buy a M68 RDS, especially when I had a perfectly good Aimpoint Pro just sitting around unused. http://i.imgur.com/yJtzP8P.jpg View Quote |
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Some of you guys mentioned not being able to read the '200' on your Matech. Mine was unreadable out of the box. A couple of wipes with a patch and it was clearly visible. It was just covered with grease or oil.
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Quoted: That’s what I did. Missed out on the SOCOM, but did pick up a LE6920HBPW, which I mocked up. Added the Matech rear sight, KAC RAS and grip, and found a Colt ambi safety. Too cheap to buy a M68 RDS, especially when I had a perfectly good Aimpoint Pro just sitting around unused. http://i.imgur.com/yJtzP8P.jpg View Quote |
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any of these or the 6920HBPW still around for sale? View Quote I haven't seen anymore on the web or GB. I was at the store last week and they had at least one on the rack. But they didn't have many to begin with. Wild West Guns |
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There is at least one 6920HBPW at my LGS. It might be the same store Willi3d picked up his, since he's also in Florida. The 14.5" barreled Colts really do feel great in your hands. I have one on layaway. I haven't seen anymore on the web or GB. I was at the store last week and they had at least one on the rack. But they didn't have many to begin with. Wild West Guns View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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any of these or the 6920HBPW still around for sale? I haven't seen anymore on the web or GB. I was at the store last week and they had at least one on the rack. But they didn't have many to begin with. Wild West Guns I called them just now but wouldn't quote pricing over the phone and when I told them I'm interested in buying and having them ship it to my FFL they got all weird. Do you remember what they wanted for it? Said the owner would think about it and call me back tomorrow. Seems more trouble than its worth to give them my money. |
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Quoted: thanks! I called them just now but wouldn't quote pricing over the phone and when I told them I'm interested in buying and having them ship it to my FFL they got all weird. Do you remember what they wanted for it? Said the owner would think about it and call me back tomorrow. Seems more trouble than its worth to give them my money. View Quote |
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thanks! I called them just now but wouldn't quote pricing over the phone and when I told them I'm interested in buying and having them ship it to my FFL they got all weird. Do you remember what they wanted for it? Said the owner would think about it and call me back tomorrow. Seems more trouble than its worth to give them my money. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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any of these or the 6920HBPW still around for sale? I haven't seen anymore on the web or GB. I was at the store last week and they had at least one on the rack. But they didn't have many to begin with. Wild West Guns I called them just now but wouldn't quote pricing over the phone and when I told them I'm interested in buying and having them ship it to my FFL they got all weird. Do you remember what they wanted for it? Said the owner would think about it and call me back tomorrow. Seems more trouble than its worth to give them my money. |
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The above link is a local store to me and where I got my 2 versions of this rifle. Good people to deal with and the last one they have.
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I have been disassembling my SOCOM and photographing it in detail for a Colt research group on FB. Here is the manufacturing mark on the extractor. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20180219_213020-457954.jpg View Quote |
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I have always regretted not buying a second SOCOM after mine proved to be such a great AR. I’ve thought about other brands, but there was truly nothing gained when I spent more on another brand. I am not a Colt fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. I just like what works.
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The HBPW are back for 2018. Hard to find, but they are out there. I just got one, and it did not fit well, and had a bunch of scratches. Not the end of the world. Price as a little higher than LE6920.
The SOCOM uppers are out there. I have not seen the lowers, except on GB. editorial comment: personally, I am a market kinda guy. When demand drops, we see prices drop. Not so much with Colt, but it happens. When demand goes up, prices go up. We accept this in many parts of our lives. In this forum, it seems that people jump on others for price gauging when prices go up. On the Knights Forum, it seems normal for people to pay $1,000 for a flash hider (eeeks), in the "triple tap." I guess it just happens, but the market is not emotional it is what it is. It is neither bad nor good. It is a meeting place of buyers expectations and needs and wants and sellers availability and cost and demand. If, for example, an M4A1 lower sells for $1k, then that is that. If it sells for $500, same thing. You can see it on EE. Some guy (not naming names) puts stuff out there for sale at 2x market prices and it never sells. Another guy puts an item out at 80% of FMV, and poof. Sold in 20 minutes. I enjoy watching the price and sale of Colt parts, KAC parts, LaRue parts and others, and watch and learn. No emotions. LOL. Sunday morning commentary. |
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I actually just got one of these 2018's. My understanding is colt is continuing to clean out their left overs. My upper came as previously described in the earlier posts. Two differences I've noticed so far, the lower is Serial number starting in "CR XXXXXXX" not "LE XXXXX". Also the upper does not have the colt "c" stamp, but the cage code and the keyhole forage mark. Apparently the cage code markings on the upper is a request from the Govt. Not sure how new that is.
To bad it wasn't an M4A1 lower damnit. |
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I do this on every firearm I buy. I disassemble and photograph/make note on all marks as an effort to capture data for research interest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Geez, that might OCD. I enjoy your CRA posts. |
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I actually just got one of these 2018's. My understanding is colt is continuing to clean out their left overs. My upper came as previously described in the earlier posts. Two differences I've noticed so far, the lower is Serial number starting in "CR XXXXXXX" not "LE XXXXX". Also the upper does not have the colt "c" stamp, but the cage code and the keyhole forage mark. Apparently the cage code markings on the upper is a request from the Govt. Not sure how new that is. To bad it wasn't an M4A1 lower damnit. View Quote I’ll echo what you said, mine is marked the same way too. Same upper marks and a new, CR lower, with the QR code in the new spot. |
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Quoted: I just picked up one today on impulse. I had no intention of spending any money, but there it was. Couldn’t pass it up. I’ll echo what you said, mine is marked the same way too. Same upper marks and a new, CR lower, with the QR code in the new spot. View Quote |
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I just ordered 2 of the complete Brownells Colt lowers. It will be interesting to see what the roll marks are on them when I get them this week.
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I just ordered 2 of the complete Brownells Colt lowers. It will be interesting to see what the roll marks are on them when I get them this week. View Quote Aren't all the Brownell's lowers regular M4 CARBINE marked lowers? Or are you referring to the serial number prefix being "LE" or "CR"? |
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Probably more roll marked vs engraved and LE vs CR prefix. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just ordered 2 of the complete Brownells Colt lowers. It will be interesting to see what the roll marks are on them when I get them this week. Aren't all the Brownell's lowers regular M4 CARBINE marked lowers? Or are you referring to the serial number prefix being "LE" or "CR"? |
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Quoted: @oxford411 Aren't all the Brownell's lowers regular M4 CARBINE marked lowers? Or are you referring to the serial number prefix being "LE" or "CR"? View Quote |
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Probably more roll marked vs engraved and LE vs CR prefix. View Quote Quoted: I bought one a couple of weeks ago. It has the engraved CR prefix serial number. All of the other markings are rolled, and the same as those found on the LE prefix lowers; even the partially formed "o" and "l" in Colt. View Quote Your markings are all rolled, except for the serial number, which is engraved? Is that what you're saying? I'd love to see a picture of that. I've seen rolled/stamped markings (regular Colt rollmarks), and engraved markings, but I haven't seen them used together on one lower. That is, if I'm understanding you correctly. Quoted: Yes they are, I didn’t realize this was a socom thread at the time I posted, posted above is a regular Hbpw I was commenting on the roll marks. The rifle above has full engraved “roll marks” with the qr code in a new place on the magwell. View Quote |
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Your markings are all rolled, except for the serial number, which is engraved? Is that what you're saying? I'd love to see a picture of that. I've seen rolled/stamped markings (regular Colt rollmarks), and engraved markings, but I haven't seen them used together on one lower. That is, if I'm understanding you correctly. View Quote |
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What is interesting about the stamped vs engraved cr prefix is both of Greg_D’s rifles have full engraved lowers with the qr code in a new spot. Both lowers start with CR00xxxx. The lowers I have seen picture of from Brownells that have the stamped markings but engraved serial number start with CR20xxxx.
200,000 is a big jump in range but you would think the higher ones would be the full engraved with new qr code, not the other way around. |
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