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Just wanted to toss up a quick pic of my M3 (in a cheap cant mount, replacing it). I can't even begin to say how fantastic the Cust Service is here. I haven't gotten to range to zero, but very impressed with quality of optic. I have 4 kids and ZERO $$, so a company like this is a lifesaver for guys who want to still put together a rifle they can enjoy. THANKS PA! |
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Were you able to get some measurements? Thanks again for the help! |
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Marshall, Were you able to get some measurements? Thanks again for the help! Sorry i completely forgot. I am going in tomorrow morning and I am sending my self a email so I won't forget. |
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There is a new side mount to AKs from Kalinka that looks like they will co-witness with Aimpoints, especially after you modify to center more over the bore centerline. Unfortunately with my Strikefire, the elevation ladders have to be lifted up all the way to 500m+ in order for me to get any co-witness when I drop down to irons. As far as I can tell seems that the problem isn't with the objective lens size of the Strikefire since it sits below the rear sight, it is maybe with the ocular lens size (I could be wrong though). I'm considering ordering a M3 Clone as a proof of concept until I can get an Aimpoint, but it looks like in the comparison pics that the ocular is smaller than an Aimpoint. Marshall do you know how these two compare since I can't find the ocular diameter of Aimpoints anywhere and everybody else if my theory is sound? Just for reference here is pics of the mount before the centerline modification: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Snake122/100_2570.jpg Is this the product page at Kalinka for that side mount? Original BP-02 AK/AKM low mount If so, this might be exactly what I am looking for to mount an M3 Clone. What needs to be modified to get it fully centered over the bore? |
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Marshall, Were you able to get some measurements? Thanks again for the help! Sorry i completely forgot. I am going in tomorrow morning and I am sending my self a email so I won't forget. The inside of the eyepiece of a Aimpoint CompM# is 1.07" the same as ours. They both have a inner liner so the viewable area is less but the liners are about the same size as well. |
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There is a new side mount to AKs from Kalinka that looks like they will co-witness with Aimpoints, especially after you modify to center more over the bore centerline. Unfortunately with my Strikefire, the elevation ladders have to be lifted up all the way to 500m+ in order for me to get any co-witness when I drop down to irons. As far as I can tell seems that the problem isn't with the objective lens size of the Strikefire since it sits below the rear sight, it is maybe with the ocular lens size (I could be wrong though). I'm considering ordering a M3 Clone as a proof of concept until I can get an Aimpoint, but it looks like in the comparison pics that the ocular is smaller than an Aimpoint. Marshall do you know how these two compare since I can't find the ocular diameter of Aimpoints anywhere and everybody else if my theory is sound? Just for reference here is pics of the mount before the centerline modification: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Snake122/100_2570.jpg Is this the product page at Kalinka for that side mount? Original BP-02 AK/AKM low mount If so, this might be exactly what I am looking for to mount an M3 Clone. What needs to be modified to get it fully centered over the bore? Here is a link on centering the BP-02 http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7735 If you can find a BP-02A, they are already centered. |
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Thanks Marshall, I'll hopefully be ordering later in November then.
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No, it isn't a BP-02, www.kalinkaoptics.com/detail.aspx?ID=907
Is this the product page at Kalinka for that side mount? Original BP-02 AK/AKM low mount If so, this might be exactly what I am looking for to mount an M3 Clone. What needs to be modified to get it fully centered over the bore? However some of the modifications to it are similar to that thread at M4carbine. The thread on this mount along with another one that took more work to co witness is over at WarriorTalk. Some "shelf" material needs cut to center and apparently to allow the Aimpoint to mount. Also the ring has to have some material removed to fit the battery compartment. Supposedly Kalinka is working on an updated model. But for the time being it will be DIY. |
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Great product. I got my M3 a few days ago (it got shipped to the billing address instead of the shipping address so it took a little longer to get, but no big deal). I love this thing, the dot is bright and clear, co-witnesses perfectly and looks great. Ive done business with primary arms before and definitely will again, great customer service.
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My M3 clone is great, but there seems to be a lot of glare on the dot once I turn it up past about 3. This isn't normal, is it?
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I thought the same thing, but it was because I was focusing ON the dot (not the proper way to shoot), if you focus on your target (proper way) the glare from the dot disappears.
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My M3 clone is great, but there seems to be a lot of glare on the dot once I turn it up past about 3. This isn't normal, is it? That is becasue they have a bright dot. It is normal. Aimpoints do it as well. Inside or in low light just turn it down. Outside the ambient light drowns out the glare and reflection. They only ones that do not do this don't have enough reflective coating to prevent the dot from washing out in bright light. |
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Finally got to shoot with it today, and it works great.
Still no cant mounts yet? I want to get a magnifier, but I'm holding off until the cant mounts are in. |
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Finally got to shoot with it today, and it works great. Still no cant mounts yet? I want to get a magnifier, but I'm holding off until the cant mounts are in. I will have a update this Sunday on the mounts. |
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Ready to order 3x mag(qd mount), m3 clone red dot, but I need that cant mount. ???????
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Marsh, I'm just gonna throw this out there because I know there has been a problem with the cantilever mounts that you currently have in stock and access to the battery compartment. I found that by mounting my optic all the way forward in the mount I am able to remove the cover and change the batteries without rotating the optic. I love my cant mount, eye relief is great and it is rock solid. What are the chances of a flip to side mount for the magnifier in the near future?
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Marsh, I'm just gonna throw this out there because I know there has been a problem with the cantilever mounts that you currently have in stock and access to the battery compartment. I found that by mounting my optic all the way forward in the mount I am able to remove the cover and change the batteries without rotating the optic. I love my cant mount, eye relief is great and it is rock solid. What are the chances of a flip to side mount for the magnifier in the near future? A flip to side mount is way way overdue. I have given up on a ETA. |
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ok well i'll keep checking, that will be a definate purchase when it comes in
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Once you do have cant mounts in stock, will they be listed for sale alone for people who just want to upgrade from the non-canted mount?
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A flip to side mount is way way overdue. I have given up on a ETA.
Ah, the joys of outsourcing... |
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Once you do have cant mounts in stock, will they be listed for sale alone for people who just want to upgrade from the non-canted mount? Once we get enough of them yes. |
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Just got back from the range, 120 rounds, zero held. Only took 8 clicks to zero windage and 6 clicks for elevation. Great sight for the money, my 3rd optics set up from PA, awesome products.
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Marshall, I know the "it'll get here when it gets here" answer applies, but I thought I'd ask anyway: Any idea when the cant mounts for the M3 clone will be back in stock? I'm holding off on ordering an optic for myself and one for my dad (Christmas gift - shhh) until the cant mounts are available.
I'm signed up for email updates, but I've come this close to buying a LaRue mount a couple of times before thinking better of it. |
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Marshall, I know the "it'll get here when it gets here" answer applies, but I thought I'd ask anyway: Any idea when the cant mounts for the M3 clone will be back in stock? I'm holding off on ordering an optic for myself and one for my dad (Christmas gift - shhh) until the cant mounts are available. I'm signed up for email updates, but I've come this close to buying a LaRue mount a couple of times before thinking better of it. You would not regret buying a LaRue mount. The cantilver mounts we have will work with the multi M3s that are comming next week. I don't have a updated ETA yet for the ones for the single dot M3. |
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So wait, color me confused. There is a different diameter between the multi and the single dot M3? Is the LaRue LT-129 going to have a problem with the Multi-m3? Thanks for the clarification.
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So wait, color me confused. There is a different diameter between the multi and the single dot M3? Is the LaRue LT-129 going to have a problem with the Multi-m3? Thanks for the clarification. Both 30mm mounting surface. The LaRue will work with both. The problem with the mounts we have in house is the top strap is a little too big. You can not remove the battery cap on the single dot version without rotating the optic. |
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Very pleased with my Primary Arms M3 as well as Primary Arms 3x magnifier and Laser. I'll be picking up an M4 for sure.
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Really looking forward to getting mine. I placed an order for the M3 last night and got shipping info this morning. I will definitely be purchasing a micro dot too.
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Ordered mine 11/20 at 8:58pm. Got shipping notice 11/21 at 9:01am. Bought it based on the good feedback the product got here.
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Any news on the M3 Multi w/ Cantilever mount.... im chewing my finger nails off here!!! lol.
Also... would a Micro work well on my 12 ga. or too much recoil? |
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what is the sight witness with out a high mount?? None. The low mount is too low to go right on a AR upper. |
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Any news on the M3 Multi w/ Cantilever mount.... im chewing my finger nails off here!!! lol. Also... would a Micro work well on my 12 ga. or too much recoil? They are just waiting for customs clearance. They are taking longer than usual because of all the holiday product coming in. |
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I have one of the m3 clones and was wondering if I can use the Aimpoint battery in it.
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I have one of the m3 clones and was wondering if I can use the Aimpoint battery in it. Yes a single CR1/3N will work just fine. They also have longer shelf life than the LR44 |
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Ordered mine 11/20 at 8:58pm. Got shipping notice 11/21 at 9:01am. Bought it based on the good feedback the product got here. Hmmm, I'm quoting myself here so I don't have to retype. Got my products today. (Monday) Everything mounted fine, feels solid, looking forward to taking it to the range. |
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I received my M3 today and it looks fantastic. Build quality is impressive. I was going to mount it on my CA94, but the Aimpoint low mount will only work with the Aimpoint low ring. Sheesh. Now I have to find one of those before I can enjoy this beauty.
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Can these be used on the 50Beowulf? And if so, which set up would you recommend? Thanks.
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Can these be used on the 50Beowulf? And if so, which set up would you recommend? Thanks. We did some initial testing on these with our .50 Beowulf rig and it survived. That was not a long term test like we did that with a .308 but if you are like me it tends to be a low round count weapon. You should be fine with one in a high mount. The other option is the new Micro Dot that is arriving on Monday. You don't have the battery spring compression issue that could show up after a lot of high recoils rounds on a M3 style. . |
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Can these be used on the 50Beowulf? And if so, which set up would you recommend? Thanks. The other option is the new Micro Dot that is arriving on Monday. OK, so will we be able to order the Micro Dots tomorrow (Monday) or is that when you are getting the new shipment? Waiting with hundreds of dollars for the Primary Arms "you can order" email. |
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Can these be used on the 50Beowulf? And if so, which set up would you recommend? Thanks. The other option is the new Micro Dot that is arriving on Monday. OK, so will we be able to order the Micro Dots tomorrow (Monday) or is that when you are getting the new shipment? Waiting with hundreds of dollars for the Primary Arms "you can order" email. We have to QC the shipment and take photos for the web site. We hope to have them up by the end of the day tomorrow. |
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Can these be used on the 50Beowulf? And if so, which set up would you recommend? Thanks. The other option is the new Micro Dot that is arriving on Monday. OK, so will we be able to order the Micro Dots tomorrow (Monday) or is that when you are getting the new shipment? Waiting with hundreds of dollars for the Primary Arms "you can order" email. We have to QC the shipment and take photos for the web site. We hope to have them up by the end of the day tomorrow. That's what I like to hear! |
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Can these be used on the 50Beowulf? And if so, which set up would you recommend? Thanks. We did some initial testing on these with our .50 Beowulf rig and it survived. That was not a long term test like we did that with a .308 but if you are like me it tends to be a low round count weapon. You should be fine with one in a high mount. The other option is the new Micro Dot that is arriving on Monday. You don't have the battery spring compression issue that could show up after a lot of high recoils rounds on a M3 style. . Is the purpose of the high mount simply for co-witnessing or clearing the front sight? My Beowulf didn't come with sights at all, front or rear, so do I still need the high mount? Same question applies to an optics ready AR in 5.56. |
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Can these be used on the 50Beowulf? And if so, which set up would you recommend? Thanks. We did some initial testing on these with our .50 Beowulf rig and it survived. That was not a long term test like we did that with a .308 but if you are like me it tends to be a low round count weapon. You should be fine with one in a high mount. The other option is the new Micro Dot that is arriving on Monday. You don't have the battery spring compression issue that could show up after a lot of high recoils rounds on a M3 style. . Is the purpose of the high mount simply for co-witnessing or clearing the front sight? My Beowulf didn't come with sights at all, front or rear, so do I still need the high mount? Same question applies to an optics ready AR in 5.56. They way a AR is designed, for most people, it would be hard to get a good cheek position without a high mount. |
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