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3/17/2025 8:57:49 PM EDT
Most other firearms accessory companies are fine with a simple declaration that I am over 18 years of age. CMMG demands an exact birth date, which is a bit of personal information that can be and has led to identity theft, as a prerequisite to entering their website.

Maybe CMMG only wants customers who are not smart enough to be aware of that. Regardless, my three choices are: 1. comply with such a stupid request, 2. lie and put down some random date, or 3. take my money to a company that is okay with a declaration that I am over 18.
I choose the 3rd option.
3/17/2025 9:02:14 PM EDT
[#1]
Last time I was on the CMMG site my birthday was January 1st 1909.

In fact, every time I go I have a new birth date.
Takes an extra 5 seconds, not really a big deal.
3/17/2025 9:21:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Smh

Seriously?
“Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
3/17/2025 9:22:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Princeton:
Last time I was on the CMMG site my birthday was January 1st 1909.

In fact, every time I go I have a new birth date.
Takes an extra 5 seconds, not really a big deal.
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So they require that I am either stupid or a liar to buy from them. Fine. Plenty of other companies out there to buy from.
3/17/2025 9:25:48 PM EDT
[#4]
This is the hill you plan on dying on?


Company doesn't give a shit about your actual birthday they are just complying with the law that says they have to ask. Probably exactly the way their lawyer told them to.

Everyone lies about it. It's expected.
3/17/2025 9:28:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By possumlivingdotcom:
So they require that I am either stupid or a liar to buy from them. Fine. Plenty of other companies out there to buy from.
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Bro that’s not an uncommon thing. Grow up.

I just punch whatever in. You aren’t signing a legal document
3/17/2025 9:30:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Smh

Seriously?
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Yes, seriously. And I am smh that so many people have no problem with this.

Fine. Once one thing becomes the norm, there's always something else coming. Always. What will it be next?

California demanded "age verification." Simply clicking a "yes, I'm over 18" button is sufficient, and is what most companies do. But some companies are such bootlickers that they go above and beyond. Kinda' like Dick's throwing AR fans under the bus. If you're okay with that, fine. I'm not.
3/17/2025 9:31:58 PM EDT
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OP, you KNOW there's other gun sites on the Internet, right?

Try a few out and start multiple threads on each one that asks you to jump through some stupid government-mandated crap.

At least it'll keep you from bothering them for awhile.

Find a new hobby. Try fishing or glass dildo collecting. You're obviously wound way too tight to be safe with a gun.
3/17/2025 9:33:21 PM EDT
[#8]
OP, I'm going to wager you have some other crap in your life you're trying to cope with and this is just the outlet. If you need help, say so.
3/17/2025 9:33:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SteelonSteel][Edited] [#9]
I had to make up a company name to buy a handful of specialty screws for machine tooling.  I actually tried to buy them from retailers and struck out.  I bought some that said they were the correct cross and they weren’t.  Finally got them from the maker via my fake company.   My other option was to buy these tiny metric screws from Germany for $50……each.

I couldn’t buy without setting up an account and it wouldn’t go without a company name.  I should have called it Redneck Hobby Industries.   I made up a company name.  

Now when I get a bunch of mail to a fictitious company I will know who is selling my data.
The only hyphenated names I like are cartridge names......30-06, 30-40, 38-55 etc.
3/17/2025 9:34:07 PM EDT
[#10]
You don't know how to post a fake birthdate?
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3/17/2025 9:39:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GeorgiaBII:
This is the hill you plan on dying on?


Company doesn't give a shit about your actual birthday they are just complying with the law that says they have to ask. Probably exactly the way their lawyer told them to.

Everyone lies about it. It's expected.
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Not a hill; a line in the sand. As of now there are still plenty of companies on the right side of the line, and still time for CMMG to get back on the right side.
The law says they have to ask if you are over 18, not demand personally identifiable information.
And, lying about it is not expected by most companies. Only ones who really need to think about whose side they are on.

This thread is intended to get the attention of CMMG and let them know that not everyone is okay with this.
3/17/2025 9:45:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScoutH57:



Bro that's not an uncommon thing. Grow up.

I just punch whatever in. You aren't signing a legal document
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You grow up. Kids put in fake DOBs to get into sites they're not allowed in. Morons give actual PID to get into the same sites. Both of them encourage other companies to do the same.

No, it's not an uncommon thing. Dick's Sporting Goods' vendetta against ARs was not an uncommon thing, either. Did you continue shopping there?
3/17/2025 9:49:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jos51700:
OP, you KNOW there's other gun sites on the Internet, right?


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Yep, and I buy from quite a few of them. I've even bought CMMG products before, from 3rd party sellers. CMMG is the first to demand my actual DOB. If I come across another that demands that, you can bet I'll call them out too.
3/17/2025 9:52:48 PM EDT
[#14]
History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which Trump is always right.
3/17/2025 9:55:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:
I had to make up a company name to buy a handful of specialty screws for machine tooling.  I actually tried to buy them from retailers and struck out.  I bought some that said they were the correct cross and they weren't.  Finally got them from the maker via my fake company.   My other option was to buy these tiny metric screws from Germany for $50  each.

I couldn't buy without setting up an account and it wouldn't go without a company name.  I should have called it Redneck Hobby Industries.   I made up a company name.  

Now when I get a bunch of mail to a fictitious company I will know who is selling my data.
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I've had to buy from companies like that, too. When I didn't have a company, I bought (with permission) through a friend's company. When I did have a company, I bought through my company. But I wasn't required to give personal information to even see if they had what I was looking for.
3/17/2025 9:55:24 PM EDT
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3/17/2025 10:00:16 PM EDT
[#17]
Lol. Just make up a fucking birthday. Cmmg has to have that birthday form on their website or they can't use SMS marketing. There's only one text marketing company that will let gun companies use it and only if they verify birthdays.
3/17/2025 10:54:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By possumlivingdotcom:
The law says they have to ask if you are over 18, not demand personally identifiable information.
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LMAO
You do know other people are born on your birthday, too, right? They asked for your birthday, which you can easily lie about, not your damn SSN.
3/18/2025 4:16:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Smh

Seriously?
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3/19/2025 5:40:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Whoever posted that CMMG has to ask for an actual birthday for SMS reasons deserves a balloon. Yes, that is the case that an age gate is necessary to traverse around different carrier networks and rules.  It's unfortunate and drives us crazy as well.
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3/19/2025 5:58:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: absael][Edited] [#21]
I play games on Steam. In order to look at some of the games, they require you to verify you're over 18 by entering your birthdate. They provide a default birthdate of Jan 1, 1980. I can guarantee you that almost no one does anything other than click "OK."

There are times when it's either morally wrong or just a bad idea to lie. This isn't one of them.
Send lawyers, guns, and money.
3/19/2025 9:12:11 PM EDT
[#22]
Its a slipery slope, mans gotta stand for something or he will fall for anything
3/19/2025 9:55:40 PM EDT
[#23]
The real problem is that all these companies and website didn't get together and all tell California to fuck off with their stupid requirements
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trobertson5-0 I wasn't put in jail for what I did. I was put in it for what I think.
There were FBI agents posting in my threads. I've seen the discovery showing this.
3/19/2025 10:08:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CMMGinc:
Whoever posted that CMMG has to ask for an actual birthday for SMS reasons deserves a balloon. Yes, that is the case that an age gate is necessary to traverse around different carrier networks and rules.  It's unfortunate and drives us crazy as well.
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Wow. A response from CMMG. Amazing.
3/19/2025 10:11:59 PM EDT
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3/19/2025 10:14:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Man, I wish my life was so simple that this was a big deal
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