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This thread has many more responses than the broken LT mounts thread. Keep up the good work
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Originally Posted By Jus_Ad_Bellum:
somebody should trademark his name. dammit, beat me to it |
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I think I am going to have to pull out my old mount and give a thorough inspection
Seriously though, what an asshat... |
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Want to make me a mount to replace the arms throw levers on my Elcan spectre DR? I just leave it mounted and don't take it off and on so as to not use the levers much-
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Originally Posted By kavik:
Want to make me a mount to replace the arms throw levers on my Elcan spectre DR? I just leave it mounted and don't take it off and on so as to not use the levers much- It appears that he still has a considerable amount of "throw" somewhere in the supply chain ... no pun. |
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God Bless Our Troops ... Especially Our Snipers.
www.LaRue.com ETA - We've done the math. ;-) You learn things while building 100,000+ mounts ... and we include it in every mount going out our door. ML |
That's dirty pool from Mr Dick.
I will never again purchase ANYTHING from ARMS and I will recommend to everyone I know to do the same. |
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“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
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My ARMS 17 still works - but I won't buy any more SWAN kit.
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I had a 22m68 fail. It was sliding all over the place and ARMS would not even look at it. I was told that it was a "soft" mount...that it's ok if it moves around.
No matter what I tried, it would not lock down and stay in place. I now have my Aimpoint in a LaRue LT-150 mount. I also ditched almost of my ARMS stuff. The only thing I have is a ARMS #5 riser that will not stay in place. |
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
I have an arms mount for my Surefire that absolutely will not fit on my Sage EBR rails, it is way too tight. I could probably hammer it on there, but don't want to mess up my rail and if I can't take it off with my bare hand, it's not exactly QD. I have resorted to using the thumb screw mounts for the light, does this count?
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Goodluck, Mark!
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And Michael Jordan had a natural affinity for slam-dunking on chumps. Imagine what he would have been like if HE COULD FLY?
That could be you, Keith. You could be the world's only flying bitchmagnet. |
Give em hell Mark.
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So what's he going to do next? Sue GLOCK? Rouch Fenway Racing? Every athlete wearing the number 17?
Of course not..they don't make a product vastly superior to his |
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I cant directly help you with this, but I will purchase another 9" LaRue rail. How's that?
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By LoganSackett:
Rather than spend his money making better products that are as good as/better than LaRue, that Dick just wants to force ML to waste money and maybe go out of business. There's no way he actually believes that this will stand up. He better start suing about 847,628,482,737,849 other companies because they all use those numbers too. By the way, before I forget 17 Yup, it's been ascertained that he didn't invent the throwlever ... it's use is documented for boresighting artillery pieces for decades... ... matter of fact, can't find but one true invention of his - he did invent "The Ring Of Fire" . Didn't he sue you for 16 some time ago? You better be careful, he'll never run out of numbers. |
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"Strive for perfection and you will easily surpass excellence"----my dad ".............."---Harpo Marx |
I'm sure myself and many other canucks would love to help you out with some orders of your mounts, but we can't get your stuff up here. Otherwise we're stuck with arms, or ADM.
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I don't have any ARMS mounts and after this bullshit lawsuit, I never will. Best of luck, Mark.
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Originally posted by TheCynic: Just when I didn't think this thread could sink any deeper, DK explains how to donkey punch a goose.
كافر |
My ARMS 40 has not broken, but after hearing about this bullshit I'd rather not have it on my gun any longer. Seriously suing over "17"?, that's fucked. Want to replace it anyway?
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Kudos to Larue for doing this. Hopefully it will help out our guys in the fight , and help put ARMS out of bidness.
The only piece of ARMS stuff I have is a "swan sleeve" w/integral BUIS on a scoped AR , and it sees zero harsh use and has no levers , so I doubt it will break any time soon. However , since the lawsuits started up , ARMS has been off my list , and any future mount purchases will be from Larue. Hopefully I'll be ordering an Aimpoint ML3 in a LT cantilever mount in the next couple of months. |
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AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT NO MO !!!!!!!!
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Good luck to you and your team. YOU are fighting the good fight. Its been shown time and time again that you can't trademark a simple number. That is why Intel named the chip after their 486 the Pentium. They couldn't trademark a number.
If your legal team is up to it, they should challenge that trademark. |
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Mr. Larue, once again I find your business practices rather kick-*** and old-timey epic-like.
My uncle, who is a USMC armorer currently somewhere he appearently cant tell me, Iraq, complains all the time about having to replace new people's ARMS BUIS and mounts. (He is addicted to LaRue now) Appearently the #40 BUIS has a tendancy to strip the threads after a few removals after field use, when they have gotten nice and sandy/dirty. My uncle thinks its probably a use of inferior steel but neither of us are certified metalurgists so I don't really know. He recently mailed me the top section to an ARMS scope ring that was in four pieces. The rings were attached to an M16 and were holding a leopold scope. The rifle was accidently knocked off the hood of a humvee (not thrown or anything, just knocked off) and the mount hit a rock. After such a short fall one would expect a ding or two, not a shattered ring. Everything else was fine on the rifle. Now along with that story, I will go ahead and add in that he has a bet going with his 2LT reguarding an ARMS mount on one of his guy's M16s. It is either an Aimpoint or ACOG mount, cant remember right now, but appearently the thing has taken a fall off a 6 story building and survived. The optics and rifle didn't, the mount was still holding what was left of the optic and a broken YHM rail riser on the bottem. They have ran it over, thrown it at a Bradley that was speeding by, played baseball with it (aluminum bat), and all sorts of other crap and it still holds zero. I can't imagine what the poor thing looks like, but it is doing its job. Now me, I don't want to have to sort through a bajillion different mounts till I find a god-tier, anti-suck, forged-by-thor-himself quality mount. I know I can get that quality every time from LaRue, and if for some really really odd reason I do I know I can count on LaRue to get me a new one ASAP. I'll be placing my first order soon, for a reflex sight and mount combo I have yet to choose. Keep up the fine work, and don't compromise if you can help it! Sock it to these *******! |
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Mark,
If you're ever In houston Beer and BBQ is on me |
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A while back I got a Larue scopemount to replace the arms rings I had. I was going to sell them, but now I decided I'm def going to destroy it . I think I might put a thread in GD and have a vote as to how I'm going to do it . I will not allow that filth to sit on another rifle again!
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thebeekeeper1-"You think that's funny? WTF is wrong with you? Do you really want to see something funny? Merry Fucking Christmas––early. You're done here."
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Will you be making a mount for the Eotech G23 3x FTS? I wanna get rid of the ARMS mount it came with.
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Mark LaRue for the win!!!!
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If it will get your teeth knocked out in real life, you'll get banned for it.
HK_SHOOTER_03 |
Give em hell Mark!
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zack991
Wife say's i should do the Christan thing and invite them in, I told her its like inviting a child molester to a kids party. Someone is bound to get fucked up over it. |
Is this just for active duty? I use my rifles for home defense and would LOVE to upgrade to LaRue.
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Originally Posted By double_trouble_2003:
Is this just for active duty? I use my rifles for home defense and would LOVE to upgrade to LaRue. Is that A.R.M.S. stuff of yours showing signs of trouble ?? |
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God Bless Our Troops ... Especially Our Snipers.
www.LaRue.com ETA - We've done the math. ;-) You learn things while building 100,000+ mounts ... and we include it in every mount going out our door. ML |
I know its not much help, and I have never owned this fuck sticks products, but I am sure that I can find some money to put toward a new Larue product in the next couple months.
My little part in helping fight this asshole. I am thinking a DMR-16 might be in my future. Probably take a few months to get the money together. Good reason to save up! |
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A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
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Originally Posted By MP0117:
"IIRC, he also trademarked 7.62, 5.56, 50BMG, etc., etc." Swan has some big brass ones. There's no way that would stand up to a challenge. Good on you Mark. +1 You've got to be shittin' me. I thought Swannee would have given up by now. Mark, please kick their ass when this all is over. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By double_trouble_2003:
Is this just for active duty? I use my rifles for home defense and would LOVE to upgrade to LaRue. Is that A.R.M.S. stuff of yours showing signs of trouble ?? Yes Sir - constantly loose or won't re-zero. One under my Aimpoint and one under my ACOG. |
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Originally Posted By double_trouble_2003:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By double_trouble_2003:
Is this just for active duty? I use my rifles for home defense and would LOVE to upgrade to LaRue. Is that A.R.M.S. stuff of yours showing signs of trouble ?? Yes Sir - constantly loose or won't re-zero. One under my Aimpoint and one under my ACOG. Write it up ... send it in. ML |
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God Bless Our Troops ... Especially Our Snipers.
www.LaRue.com ETA - We've done the math. ;-) You learn things while building 100,000+ mounts ... and we include it in every mount going out our door. ML |
That's a damn nice thing you are doing Mark, it's why I buy from LaRue.
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Hansan: "This is a .30 caliber, gas operated, clip fed, semi-automatic rifle....."
Soldier: "Look, you ain't sellin it to me, you're only showing me how it works." |
thats it, I'm going to gather my lunch money together and buy LT from now on. I just may take a hammer to my arms mounts and mail them to DICK
ETA, I know I have one of the "soft mount" aimpoint mounts (it moves forward and aft when mounted). don't know if that counts, if it does I'm not sure if I want to take free stuff or smash it and send it to DICK. |
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Chris
11M 84-87 Dare to be different Oh cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee. |
Originally Posted By CB1:
thats it, I'm going to gather my lunch money together and buy LT from now on. I just may take a hammer to my arms mounts and mail them to DICK Wait, don't bash 'em up ... write 'em up, and let us trade ya. Hell, you can sell the new stuff of ours on the EE. |
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God Bless Our Troops ... Especially Our Snipers.
www.LaRue.com ETA - We've done the math. ;-) You learn things while building 100,000+ mounts ... and we include it in every mount going out our door. ML |
You don't make one for the Trijicon Acog Reflex do ya? My mount for that won't stay tight on the rail.
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Originally Posted By DaFuzz62:
You don't make one for the Trijicon Acog Reflex do ya? My mount for that won't stay tight on the rail. Pretty sure they do. P.S. get back to ingo.lol |
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www.ELZETTA.com www.LarueTactical.com SWANS TAKE IT IN THE ARSE!! Daily |
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: Well I just checked my mounts, only one of them has the "soft mount" problem. If that counts I'll write it up and send it in to you. I tried this mount on another rifle and it still moves, not as much as on the original rifle it was on, but it still moves. Originally Posted By CB1: thats it, I'm going to gather my lunch money together and buy LT from now on. I just may take a hammer to my arms mounts and mail them to DICK Wait, don't bash 'em up ... write 'em up, and let us trade ya. Hell, you can sell the new stuff of ours on the EE. Man, I want you guys to stomp Arms for this baloney. |
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Chris
11M 84-87 Dare to be different Oh cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee. |
Originally Posted By CB1:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Well I just checked my mounts, only one of them has the "soft mount" problem. If that counts I'll write it up and send it in to you. I tried this mount on another rifle and it still moves, not as much as on the original rifle it was on, but it still moves.
Originally Posted By CB1:
thats it, I'm going to gather my lunch money together and buy LT from now on. I just may take a hammer to my arms mounts and mail them to DICK Wait, don't bash 'em up ... write 'em up, and let us trade ya. Hell, you can sell the new stuff of ours on the EE. Man, I want you guys to stomp Arms for this baloney. That counts ... write it up, send it in. ML |
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God Bless Our Troops ... Especially Our Snipers.
www.LaRue.com ETA - We've done the math. ;-) You learn things while building 100,000+ mounts ... and we include it in every mount going out our door. ML |
please tell me you have a counter suit against mr swan for meritorious claims, emotional distress, loss of revenue, etc... Just so when you win, you can recoup attorneys fees, etc...
I hate seeing people abusing the judicial process so haphazardly, over something so rediculous... Something to check, has he sued anyone else over the use of 17 or is it just you??? I am going to look into having these trademarked... A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z any words with any of my letters will have me to deal with...LOL>>> Watch out mark i see some of my letters on your products...I will settle my trademark claim for a fully decked out OSR How can this swan guy even look at himself in the mirror??? What a pathetic man and what a morally bankrupt company... |
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Hey Mark,
I have an ARMS M68 mount with the threads stripped out of it, sold the M2 on the EE...Any chance I could trade down to an LT660? |
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"Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?
"Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps." |
I had picked up an Aimpoint M2 in an ARMS mount last year, and I was not impressed. My wife purchased a LaRue mount to replace it and I sold the ARMS to someone on the EE.
I am very happy with LaRue products and will be looking to buy a handguard in the next year. Best of luck with the lawsuit, too bad I can not do jury duty in Texas |
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Patriots are ordinary men who rise up to do extraordinary things in troubled times.
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we need to come up with some thing Dick is using thats not trademarked. then you can trademark it and file your own lawsuit against the Dick, just to run his costs up. ill donate to the sue Dick fund.
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This is my Signature.
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Have your lawyers file a transfer of venue to Texas......
Let that bastard come down to see if he's got the balls. EDIT: Dick maybe you should patent "f*cker, bastard, piece of sh*t, low life" then you can sue everyone on ARFCOM. |
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Knowing Mark and his company, they are good people.
I've got an ARMS mount... that I got back in the early 90s. It works. Seems after reading this, it will be the last ARMS product I ever buy. John |
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Had a friend take his new EOTech to the range with a 3x mag with FTS mount by ARMS. Needless to say, it was wobbling all over the place. He sent it back to EOTech and they sent a nice new ARMS mount, which he promptly sold. I asked him to try to find the paperwork where EOTech replaced the defective ARMS mount. We'll see if he's a good paperwork keeper or not. If so, I'll scan and send so you have proof from a 3rd party that the ARMS was crap.
Now, about that ARMS 40 I have...... Woody |
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Sorry to hear that Mark, Dick Swan can go to hell, everyone who likes fair business practices should boycott ARMS publicly
ETA: Mark, you replaced 3 broken ARMS mounts (at no cost) for my company about a year ago I can write you a testimony on company letterhead if it would help you out |
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Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river.
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No shit. Good for you Mark. And take it to ARMS. Trademark 17? Are they going to sue glock for the 17?
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Sorry Mark. No shitty ARMS mounts here. I ordered an OSR last week instead. I guess I'll add some options to it when they become available to help fund your legal team!!!
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hey Mark i have SIR rail on my Beowulf that i cant mount my accessory rails anymore does that count :)
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Day two, page four.
Count me in. Pics to come. |
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