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Posted: 7/13/2024 12:36:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbgonoles: Hey Mike, Just picked up a TIA flash hider for a 10.3” upper build since I already have a stamp. Does the TIA FH need a washer (split or crush) or just torque down and don’t worry about indexing the flats? Thanks RB Mine came with split and the flats were just wherever they landed and not indexed. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/13/2024 2:05:26 PM EST
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Thanks
Was that on the FH individually or the whole upper? |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 7/13/2024 9:35:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tstetz: Took the 601 out today. The mag wasn't seating right at first, and I had a couple jams. I backed the mag release screw out a turn or two and that fixed it. Weird, but it ran great after that. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42803/20240710_120137_jpg-3263080.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42803/20240710_120142_jpg-3263083.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42803/20240710_120215_jpg-3263084.JPG That is absolutely gorgeous, very nice. I have 99% of the ar15sport 601 parts besides the rear takedown pin, for anyone wondering they quoted me "a couple of months" wait on them. Apparently they do the heat treat in batches so buy the stuff as soon as you can. I'm doing a very similar build, right now the bottleneck is the slickside uppers being out of stock. I had some issues with my 601 lower than mike is working on resolving. So far excellent RMA process. It saddens me to send back a lower with such a beautiful grey finish but it seems like they're getting very consistent company wide at this point so the new one will probably be just as good |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2024 7:38:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I don’t expect those to be able to come to market until Dec/Jan at the earliest Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Originally Posted By PoliceMarksman: The DOE 9mm pistol would make a great SBR! Hopefully H&R will release one soon! I don’t expect those to be able to come to market until Dec/Jan at the earliest Thanks Mike I will put one on my Christmas list! |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 7:49:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbgonoles: Thanks Was that on the FH individually or the whole upper? complete pistol |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 12:33:23 PM EST
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Hi Mike,
I have a Juggernaut Tactical JT9 AR pistol. Since I'm in California, Juggernaut is pretty much the only pistol lower I can use, except spending $1k to buy a used stripped lower from LEO. My lower comes with the Juggernaut maglock (Hellfighter button). Do you think the slick side 9mm carry handle upper receive will pair with my lower? Thank you very much! |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 12:39:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: x248716x]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: it doesn't matter. I used a split on mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: Originally Posted By rbgonoles: Hey Mike, Just picked up a TIA flash hider for a 10.3” upper build since I already have a stamp. Does the TIA FH need a washer (split or crush) or just torque down and don’t worry about indexing the flats? Thanks RB it doesn't matter. I used a split on mine. ETA: ooops, didn't have my reading glasses on, didn't see the "L" |
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Posted: 7/15/2024 1:13:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: ETA: ooops, didn't have my reading glasses on, didn't see the "L" 
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Posted: 7/15/2024 1:34:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gifigures: Hi Mike, I have a Juggernaut Tactical JT9 AR pistol. Since I'm in California, Juggernaut is pretty much the only pistol lower I can use, except spending $1k to buy a used stripped lower from LEO. My lower comes with the Juggernaut maglock (Hellfighter button). Do you think the slick side 9mm carry handle upper receive will pair with my lower? Thank you very much! If a standard AR stripped upper will fit, ours will. However, that lever in the left side of the lower may preclude the bolt from closing. I've never had my hands on one of those lowers so I can't give you a definitive answer. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2024 2:32:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: If a standard AR stripped upper will fit, ours will. However, that lever in the left side of the lower may preclude the bolt from closing. I've never had my hands on one of those lowers so I can't give you a definitive answer. Thanks Mike. Your comment is very helpful. |
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Posted: 7/16/2024 8:20:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: CFletch]
[#11]
I got my XM177E2 pistol. It's fantastic. Balance is great and the finish is perfect. All the details look perfect to me.
The handguard slip ring is the straight early type, as opposed to the angled later type that the listing pictures showed. Not an issue to me, but something I thought I'd point out. In case anyone else was wondering on the weight, when I put it on my postal scale I got 5lbs 12.6oz. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2024 12:43:46 PM EST
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@mike_nds,
Is PSA going to sell the fully assembled 635 Pistol lowers? Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 3:44:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PaladinM1911: @mike_nds, Is PSA going to sell the fully assembled 635 Pistol lowers? Thanks. Probably, just haven’t had time to get to it yet. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2024 9:33:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Probably, just haven’t had time to get to it yet. Thanks, sorry to have bothered you. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 10:25:00 AM EST
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Not a bother
 I just got a lot going on. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 11:24:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: CFletch]
[#16]
Got an odd issue I noticed on my XM177E2 pistol. The rear sight easily shifts from side-to-side with very little pressure, pushing on either the screw on the left or the adjustment wheel on the right, and stays where it's pushed. It moves maybe 1.5mm side to side, which would seem to be more than enough to impact accuracy. The screw isn't loose at all and doesn't want to go any tighter. Any idea if this is normal (I assume not), or suggestions on how to fix it?
I checked my H&R M16A1 and it also moves but far less, maybe half a mm. I guess the question becomes: should the sight be pushed to the left side or the right to remain consistent? It does look damn nice, and I love the handling  Attached File |
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USA
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Posted: 7/18/2024 1:11:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: Got an odd issue I noticed on my XM177E2 pistol. The rear sight easily shifts from side-to-side with very little pressure, pushing on either the screw on the left or the adjustment wheel on the right, and stays where it's pushed. It moves maybe 1.5mm side to side, which would seem to be more than enough to impact accuracy. The screw isn't loose at all and doesn't want to go any tighter. Any idea if this is normal (I assume not), or suggestions on how to fix it? I checked my H&R M16A1 and it also moves but far less, maybe half a mm. I guess the question becomes: should the sight be pushed to the left side or the right to remain consistent? It does look damn nice, and I love the handling https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302267/20240718_102835_jpg-3270245.JPG Push on the left/slotted side. All of my H&R uppers have a little play in the rear sight. I’ve experimented with using different windage screws to tighten them up. It seems the pin holes in the screws are not all bored in the exact same location. I’ve debated on putting a thin washer under the drum to fill in the gap. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 1:17:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: CFletch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rightwing87: Push on the left/slotted side. All of my H&R uppers have a little play in the rear sight. I've experimented with using different windage screws to tighten them up. It seems the pin holes in the screws are not all bored in the exact same location. I've debated on putting a thin washer under the drum to fill in the gap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rightwing87: Originally Posted By CFletch: Got an odd issue I noticed on my XM177E2 pistol. The rear sight easily shifts from side-to-side with very little pressure, pushing on either the screw on the left or the adjustment wheel on the right, and stays where it's pushed. It moves maybe 1.5mm side to side, which would seem to be more than enough to impact accuracy. The screw isn't loose at all and doesn't want to go any tighter. Any idea if this is normal (I assume not), or suggestions on how to fix it? I checked my H&R M16A1 and it also moves but far less, maybe half a mm. I guess the question becomes: should the sight be pushed to the left side or the right to remain consistent? It does look damn nice, and I love the handling https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302267/20240718_102835_jpg-3270245.JPG Push on the left/slotted side. All of my H&R uppers have a little play in the rear sight. I've experimented with using different windage screws to tighten them up. It seems the pin holes in the screws are not all bored in the exact same location. I've debated on putting a thin washer under the drum to fill in the gap. There is this video on a more permanent fix using a thin washer  How to Fix a loose M16a1 Rear Sight |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 1:22:27 PM EST
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The detent and spring will always push it from left to right. No need to shim anything.
There has to be some room between the countersinks and the sight assembles. If you make things too close the sight will bind after assembly. 
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Posted: 7/18/2024 1:34:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The detent and spring will always push it from left to right. No need to shim anything. There has to be some room between the countersinks and the sight assembles. If you make things too close the sight will bind after assembly. Still enjoying messing with my XM177E2. Very glad I waited for it and I can't wait to shoot it, though I'll need the weather, smoke, and temperature to cooperate before that will happen. And my A1 has been pure pleasure since I got it. H&R is doing great work. I'm still hoping for a H&R 605 one of these days. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 4:41:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The detent and spring will always push it from left to right. No need to shim anything. This is true in theory, but particularly on a new build, I've found that the friction of the windage screw against the other components is sometimes greater than the strength of the spring, and the assembly doesn't always index to the right. It gets stuck, I think mostly caused by the texture of the finishes. You can adjust it a bunch and break down that friction, but a washer of the right size and thickness can be a great fix. IME, IMO, YMMV, FJB. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 10:51:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Droodog]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tstetz: I just had my XM177E2 SBR out yesterday. H&R lower half with an original H&R grip. As usual I was impatient waiting on uppers so I assembled that on my own, lol. Very happy with the look and how it shoots. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42803/20240703_122024_jpg-3258023.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42803/20240703_122051_jpg-3258024.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tstetz: Originally Posted By CFletch: Cool. I've been dreaming about one of those XM177E2 pistols. I saved up some money to spend on an MP5, but the XM177E2 caught my eye and held it. It's cooler than an MP5 imho. I just had my XM177E2 SBR out yesterday. H&R lower half with an original H&R grip. As usual I was impatient waiting on uppers so I assembled that on my own, lol. Very happy with the look and how it shoots. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42803/20240703_122024_jpg-3258023.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42803/20240703_122051_jpg-3258024.JPG In NJ you Can't Have Pistols , Can't Have SBR's , Can't Have Regular Rifles with flash hiders or other evil features, but OTHER FIREARMS are legal   Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 11:40:47 PM EST
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Nice carbine !
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Posted: 7/19/2024 6:21:14 AM EST
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Has H&R received a cage code? Looking to get a UID made for one of my rifles.
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Posted: 7/19/2024 8:35:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALostKey: Has H&R received a cage code? Looking to get a UID made for one of my rifles. 
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Posted: 7/19/2024 12:56:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALostKey: Has H&R received a cage code? Looking to get a UID made for one of my rifles. Yes, use the PSA cage code for new H&R. |
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Posted: 7/23/2024 7:09:42 PM EST
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any new retro items coming out .. running out of projects LOL
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2024 7:38:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: Razgriz56342]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Droodog: any new retro items coming out .. running out of projects LOL From the looks of it intlmilco is trying to recreate the HEL E4A suppressor so you could make a LRRP rifle or something. Personally if that suppressor build goes well I want to get one and make the rifle Stalker used in Vietnam in the G.I. Joe comics. 
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Posted: 7/24/2024 9:37:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Razgriz56342: From the looks of it intlmilco is trying to recreate the HEL E4A suppressor so you could make a LRRP rifle or something. Personally if that suppressor build goes well I want to get one and make the rifle Stalker used in Vietnam in the G.I. Joe comics. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/320xq70/r/924/iiDjgH.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Razgriz56342: Originally Posted By Droodog: any new retro items coming out .. running out of projects LOL From the looks of it intlmilco is trying to recreate the HEL E4A suppressor so you could make a LRRP rifle or something. Personally if that suppressor build goes well I want to get one and make the rifle Stalker used in Vietnam in the G.I. Joe comics. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/320xq70/r/924/iiDjgH.jpg We need a 605 clone |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 9:41:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Razgriz56342: From the looks of it intlmilco is trying to recreate the HEL E4A suppressor so you could make a LRRP rifle or something. Personally if that suppressor build goes well I want to get one and make the rifle Stalker used in Vietnam in the G.I. Joe comics. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/320xq70/r/924/iiDjgH.jpg You and I would be friends. The first 60 issues of GI Joe are permanently seared into my brain. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 11:56:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: Razgriz56342]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cayman_shen: You and I would be friends. The first 60 issues of GI Joe are permanently seared into my brain. Same here. Although the comics and classic 80s figures are a little before my time I still am a huge fan of the series overall. Trying to recreate some of the rifles from the series is a goal of mine. Some are just basic M16s or CAR-15 variants but some are fairly unique. Stalker with his PVS2 and suppressor, Airborne who has a XM177 upper on a 608 lower, and the rifle Snake Eyes (disguised as Flint) uses on the cover of issue 54. Which is just an A1 that has a moderator on it. It's not too specialized but it's different enough to turn heads. 
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LA, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 1:12:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Razgriz56342: Same here. Although the comics and classic 80s figures are a little before my time I still am a huge fan of the series overall. Trying to recreate some of the rifles from the series is a goal of mine. Some are just basic M16s or CAR-15 variants but some are fairly unique. Stalker with his PVS2 and suppressor, Airborne who has a XM177 upper on a 608 lower, and the rifle Snake Eyes (disguised as Flint) uses on the cover of issue 54. Which is just an A1 that has a moderator on it. It's not too specialized but it's different enough to turn heads. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/320xq70/r/924/Itf63v.jpg I don't know...that barrel looks a little short to me. It could be an 18" with an XM177E2 moderator and grenade ring. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 1:43:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dex223: I don't know...that barrel looks a little short to me. It could be an 18" with an XM177E2 moderator and grenade ring. Yeah I can see that. With that older art style a lot of creative liberties are going to have to be taken if there's some recreations. |
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Posted: 7/26/2024 3:45:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Razgriz56342: Same here. Although the comics and classic 80s figures are a little before my time I still am a huge fan of the series overall. Trying to recreate some of the rifles from the series is a goal of mine. Some are just basic M16s or CAR-15 variants but some are fairly unique. Stalker with his PVS2 and suppressor, Airborne who has a XM177 upper on a 608 lower, and the rifle Snake Eyes (disguised as Flint) uses on the cover of issue 54. Which is just an A1 that has a moderator on it. It's not too specialized but it's different enough to turn heads. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/320xq70/r/924/Itf63v.jpg Its because of Stalker I overpaid for a straight mag for my MP5.   |
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Posted: 7/26/2024 10:52:10 AM EST
[#35]
Yeah, me too!
I’d also say most of my “clones” are “correct” to my toy box, circa 1985. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/26/2024 4:54:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CapnMike: Oh man. Its because of Stalker I overpaid for a straight mag for my MP5. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/4b/4f/0d4b4f4630a9d5ce4a14c55dd96faf53.jpg https://www.imfdb.org/images/7/7c/HK_MP5.JPG Oh man that's pretty cool! I blame Dial Tone for my desire for a HK53. The original cardback description swears it's a 9mm but I say it's mag is too big........ |
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USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 10:25:42 AM EST
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Will Gray 733 Pistols be offered? If not what are my options? I really want to do a Heat clone.
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:55:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PerditionAR: Will Gray 733 Pistols be offered? If not what are my options? I really want to do a Heat clone. |
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Posted: 7/30/2024 8:28:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CapnMike: Oh man. Its because of Stalker I overpaid for a straight mag for my MP5. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/4b/4f/0d4b4f4630a9d5ce4a14c55dd96faf53.jpg https://www.imfdb.org/images/7/7c/HK_MP5.JPG Yep they are expensive now. I think I literally paid $9 each in a sale when Tapco sold surplus. I sold them for $50 sometime later and now wish I had kept a few. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 3:54:29 AM EST
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@mike_nds I emailed PSA warranty dept about a broken firing pin retaining pin I received with one of the 601 style BCGs and they responded by wanting me to send in the entire BCG. I responded and requested for them to just send me out a pin and got no response. Could you please handle this please? Thanks.
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Posted: 8/1/2024 4:28:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SISTIM7: @mike_nds I emailed PSA warranty dept about a broken firing pin retaining pin I received with one of the 601 style BCGs and they responded by wanting me to send in the entire BCG. I responded and requested for them to just send me out a pin and got no response. Could you please handle this please? Thanks. PM me your address. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2024 10:02:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: PM me your address. PM sent. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/5/2024 10:23:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: kevison]
[#43]
Hey Mike,
Any idea when the 604 complete builds will be available again? Thanks, Kevin |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2024 6:43:48 PM EST
[#44]
Just so the right people are aware.
 PSA/H&R XM177 Complete Upper - Autopsy - Clocked Barrel Extension & Canted FSB (Read Description) |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2024 6:48:20 PM EST
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Any reviews on the IDF pistol yet??
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Posted: 8/8/2024 7:25:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: mike_nds]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman76: Just so the right people are aware.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSsaN4EJi4I watched it. This is the same guy that broke some of our FC parts and claimed it was during normal use. When people really looked at the pictures he posted and started calling him out he back pedaled, blocked people, and eventually deleted all the pics and thread. He trolls for clicks and it’s pathetic. As I’ve stated many times before: We purposely time the front sight post on an A1 slightly to the 1 o'clock so that the aperture is centered in the upper when zeroed. All the USGI barrels I’ve owned were like this. If it's perfectly 12 o'clock TDC it will shoot 6"+ to the right and require the aperture to be way left. We have assembled and zeroed thousands of uppers this way and it works. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2024 8:03:32 PM EST
[#47]
Any idea when the 604 complete builds will be available again?
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Posted: 8/8/2024 8:14:14 PM EST
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We should have some gray 604 rifles in the next few days.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2024 8:31:46 PM EST
[#49]
Glad to hear, thanks…
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Posted: 8/8/2024 10:21:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I watched it. This is the same guy that broke some of our FC parts and claimed it was during normal use. When people really looked at the pictures he posted and started calling him out he back pedaled, blocked people, and eventually deleted all the pics and thread. He trolls for clicks and it’s pathetic. As I’ve stated many times before: We purposely time the front sight post on an A1 slightly to the 1 o'clock so that the aperture is centered in the upper when zeroed. All the USGI barrels I’ve owned were like this. If it's perfectly 12 o'clock TDC it will shoot 6"+ to the right and require the aperture to be way left. We have assembled and zeroed thousands of uppers this way and it works. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Originally Posted By Minuteman76: Just so the right people are aware. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSsaN4EJi4I watched it. This is the same guy that broke some of our FC parts and claimed it was during normal use. When people really looked at the pictures he posted and started calling him out he back pedaled, blocked people, and eventually deleted all the pics and thread. He trolls for clicks and it’s pathetic. As I’ve stated many times before: We purposely time the front sight post on an A1 slightly to the 1 o'clock so that the aperture is centered in the upper when zeroed. All the USGI barrels I’ve owned were like this. If it's perfectly 12 o'clock TDC it will shoot 6"+ to the right and require the aperture to be way left. We have assembled and zeroed thousands of uppers this way and it works. this school guy said "After the video was over I did a tear down of the upper receiver. The barrel nut was installed with about 300 ft lb of force. The index pin had bent slightly from the excessive torque and the notch in the upper receiver had a gouge in it from the index pin. I replaced the index pin, removed the barrel nut, lubricated the threads with aeroshell 64, bedded the barrel, used the proper jig and torque value and the FSB and barrel extension now line up properly." I am not a professional , I build my own because I live in a shitty state and have to hoop jump stupid laws and I think the most I ever torqued was like 55 or 60 ... I can't see your team cranking 300ft lbs on a retro carbine! ... something doesn't seem right ... |
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