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Posted: 9/26/2022 2:54:28 PM EST
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KY, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2022 3:55:17 PM EST
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I got my order from AR15 Sport, the aluminum parts are definitely anodized gray, not repainted black parts.
So now I have the dreaded task of removing the first trigger guard I installed. I know theorectically I should just punch the pin out, but I'm thinking about trying to cut it out with a dremel instead, to avoid additional risk to the tabs on the lower. We'll see how it goes. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 4:12:10 PM EST
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I use a small wood block with a hole in it to support the bottom ear.
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Posted: 9/26/2022 4:17:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I use a small wood block with a hole in it to support the bottom ear. The thing that always gets me is the bolt hold open roll pin. I always end up scratching the lower at least a little bit. Tried padding the hell out of the lower with cloth or electric tape, tried tape-padded vice grips instead of punches, still always end up with at least a bit of gouging. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 4:26:45 PM EST
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Posted: 9/26/2022 4:31:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Suppo: I have found this to be very handy: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64869/Wheeler_jpg-2540346.JPG Some of the best couple of bucks I've ever spent. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2022 4:32:30 PM EST
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This is why I always use the spiral coiled pins instead of slotted pins. They go in and out like butter
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Posted: 9/26/2022 4:42:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Suppo: I have found this to be very handy: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64869/Wheeler_jpg-2540346.JPG Same, I put some painters tape on it before use to keep from marring the anodizing, works great. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 4:55:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: I was shooting this. Maybe I just didn't shoot enough of it yet to see any keyholes. But at 25 and 100 it was grouping right in with 55gr fmj. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Thermionix: Originally Posted By giantpune: Disregard the one sideways bullet. I was checking to see if the 1:12 barrel would stabilize a green tip, and we see how well that went. Interdasting. As mentioned above I was shooting SS109 out of my 1:12 and got no keyholes. It's not actually green tip but Swiss "Norma" brand, 5.56 62gr, same basic thing but maybe a little different shape? Purdy rifle BTW! Are you sure it was SS109 bullets & not just FMJ w/ a lead core? The Swiss use a 1:10" twist on their issue rifles b/c they don't use the SS109 bullet, hence their 62 grn bullets are shorter & will stabilize in a slower twist. I was shooting this. Maybe I just didn't shoot enough of it yet to see any keyholes. But at 25 and 100 it was grouping right in with 55gr fmj. Interesting. You throwing it from a 20" bbl on a hot day? |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 5:06:39 PM EST
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I'm surprised that the 1:12 wouldn't be able to handle the 62gr ammo.
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Posted: 9/26/2022 5:11:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: I'm surprised that the 1:12 wouldn't be able to handle the 62gr ammo. I tried it once with my Brownells barrel, it keyholes also. It does stabilize .22lr really well though. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 5:22:31 PM EST
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In the Army, 62gr was “emergency use only” in an M16A1.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2022 6:37:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: giantpune]
[#13]
The 1:12 barrel grouped fairly well with 62gr green tips. They all just hit the target "pre tumbling" for maximum damage.
This is the 50yd range, 20 rounds. So Maybe 5-6MOA.  
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KY, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2022 7:18:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Interesting. You throwing it from a 20" bbl on a hot day? The 20" Brownells chrome lined 1:12 pencil, pictured a few pages back. Weather was in the 70s, perfect day, but the barrel got warm you know. I can only guess the Norma SS109 is a little shorter. Or something. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 7:42:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: The 20" Brownells chrome lined 1:12 pencil, pictured a few pages back. Weather was in the 70s, perfect day, but the barrel got warm you know. I can only guess the Norma SS109 is a little shorter. Or something. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: Originally Posted By backbencher: Interesting. You throwing it from a 20" bbl on a hot day? The 20" Brownells chrome lined 1:12 pencil, pictured a few pages back. Weather was in the 70s, perfect day, but the barrel got warm you know. I can only guess the Norma SS109 is a little shorter. Or something. Or it's actually a 1:9" twist bbl marked 1:12?
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Posted: 9/26/2022 9:01:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Or it's actually a 1:9" twist bbl marked 1:12? now you're just trolling. |
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Posted: 9/26/2022 9:42:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rpoL98: now you're just trolling. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rpoL98: Originally Posted By backbencher: Or it's actually a 1:9" twist bbl marked 1:12? now you're just trolling. Sherlock Holmes something something. M855 is using the SS109 bullet design, no? Surely our benevolent overlords would never accidentally mark the most common twist in 5.56x45mm bbls as the much rarer 1:12"? |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 12:09:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Or it's actually a 1:9" twist bbl marked 1:12? Not impossible. Maybe 1:7 is more likely since they offer that. Either way, looks good, shoots well, I'm happy. I'll look to see if I have any US made 855, but I don't think so right now. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 7:32:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: I got my order from AR15 Sport, the aluminum parts are definitely anodized gray, not repainted black parts. So now I have the dreaded task of removing the first trigger guard I installed. I know theorectically I should just punch the pin out, but I'm thinking about trying to cut it out with a dremel instead, to avoid additional risk to the tabs on the lower. We'll see how it goes. Get one of these: Midway- Wheeler AR-15 roll pin punch kit It comes with a trigger guard pin installer/uninstalled that makes it easy and safe. Used this to assemble my first lower and it worked great. I’ve seen the kit available on Amazon as well. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 8:43:18 AM EST
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Mike,
Do you have an idea when the next batch of lowers will be back from ano? Also, are you going to give a heads up when these will go on the website? The notify button on the page does not work. I have mentioned the issue with support, butt the problem has not been addressed. Lastly, do you think the company that does the ano for H&R will fix the streaking in the uppers? Thanks in advance |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:10:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coltfan3000: Mike, Do you have an idea when the next batch of lowers will be back from ano? Also, are you going to give a heads up when these will go on the website? The notify button on the page does not work. I have mentioned the issue with support, butt the problem has not been addressed. Lastly, do you think the company that does the ano for H&R will fix the streaking in the uppers? Thanks in advance Notify button works for me. Maybe try a different web browser? |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:28:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UWPGrad11: Notify button works for me. Maybe try a different web browser? It has never worked for me. And others who have said they got a notification would immediately click on it and all would be out of stock. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:00:34 AM EST
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Weird. It worked for me, got the email, clicked the link, got a lower. That’s very strange
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:04:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I’m working on it.  Going to be a little later. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/BB84D723-D3BD-4EE1-99AD-1A02A0A33698-2540035.jpg SCHWING!  I need more |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:19:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: Originally Posted By mike_nds: I’m working on it. Going to be a little later. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/BB84D723-D3BD-4EE1-99AD-1A02A0A33698-2540035.jpg SCHWING! https://i.imgur.com/RBjfTwk.jpg?2 I need more “Tradtion”
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:23:09 AM EST
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Tradition !
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:38:00 AM EST
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tangential but somewhat related
Why did the Canadians want to go with the A1 sight on the C7 instead of the A2 sight? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:16:29 AM EST
[#28]
Barrels back in stock
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:56:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kokal00: Barrels back in stock hopefully the lowers soon! Would like to snag one. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 12:39:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: mike_nds]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: tangential but somewhat related Why did the Canadians want to go with the A1 sight on the C7 instead of the A2 sight? The Marines wanted a target rifle, so they picked the A2 rear sight. The Canadians liked the simplicity of the A1 rear sight. Which covers 90% of most combat engagements. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 1:18:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jack67]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: tangential but somewhat related Why did the Canadians want to go with the A1 sight on the C7 instead of the A2 sight? They were focused on battlefield expediency and not competition scores. ETA: oops, answered. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 2:36:24 PM EST
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Thanks
I have to admit that the simplicity and light weight of the M16A1 really appeals to me, both as a functional weapon and as a standout in the history of military rifles. Almost all standard infantry rifles since the Brown Bess have been in the 9 to 10 pound range (in normal fighting configuration), and the M16 was really the first standard infantry rifle to seriously buck that trend (6lb or so rifle until the A2, and later optics/lasers/accessories, bumped it back up). |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 4:56:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wally05: It has never worked for me. And others who have said they got a notification would immediately click on it and all would be out of stock. Also, once PSA sends the email, it's completely out of their hands how long that takes to be delivered. Nature of the internet. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 5:12:13 PM EST
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Mike, any reason you decided to release stripped barrels before complete barrel assemblies? Seems like complete assemblies would be more in demand
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KY, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2022 6:28:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Suppo: I have found this to be very handy: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64869/Wheeler_jpg-2540346.JPG I'll grab one of those next parts order. But today was dremel day. Big success!  Then I tried another idea, slightly enlarged the hole in the new trigger guard. A 1/8" drill bit slid right through, so I used the next size, 9/64". It was a bit (ha) too much. New trigger guard is rattly. But very easy to remove and replace if I decide too. Oh well, it was something I've been meaning to try for a while now. A 17/128" bit would probably nail it! |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 1:17:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: Then I tried another idea, slightly enlarged the hole in the new trigger guard. A 1/8" drill bit slid right through, so I used the next size, 9/64". It was a bit (ha) too much. New trigger guard is rattly. But very easy to remove and replace if I decide too. Oh well, it was something I've been meaning to try for a while now. A 17/128" bit would probably nail it! FWIW, a #30 drill bit is .1285" |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 1:04:23 PM EST
[#37]
Status update on next batch of uppers?
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 1:39:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stonerenjoyer: Status update on next batch of uppers? And lowers, please! :) |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 2:00:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UWPGrad11: And lowers, please! :) 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 2:21:56 PM EST
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last update was from the 19th and they were 2 weeks out, i read the thread, i was just requesting an update
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 2:28:03 PM EST
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Mike will update when he has something to update about.
Personally, I'm waiting for the "we've finally got more machines/machine time and staff, production is about to triple with no loss of quality!". 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 2:40:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: You guys really can't read the thread to figure this stuff out and instead ask every day? Not everyone has the free time to sit online all day and read through 19 pages. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 4:37:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ygolonac: Mike will update when he has something to update about. Personally, I'm waiting for the "we've finally got more machines/machine time and staff, production is about to triple with no loss of quality!". |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:27:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: I think if things continue to sell out in mins it will be easier to justify the extra machines and man hours. True, but you don't want to invest in production capacity for demand that isn't there long-term. Right now there is a serious back-log, making an artificially high apparent demand. He has to plan for the true stead-state demand. Difficult to predict in a niche business like this. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:34:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: True, but you don't want to invest in production capacity for demand that isn't there long-term. Right now there is a serious back-log, making an artificially high apparent demand. He has to plan for the true stead-state demand. Difficult to predict in a niche business like this. I think you just have to ask Brownells... The retro market isn't for the faint of heart. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 5:48:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: I think you just have to ask Brownells... The retro market isn't for the faint of heart. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By Jack67: True, but you don't want to invest in production capacity for demand that isn't there long-term. Right now there is a serious back-log, making an artificially high apparent demand. He has to plan for the true stead-state demand. Difficult to predict in a niche business like this. I think you just have to ask Brownells... The retro market isn't for the faint of heart. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:02:51 PM EST
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I got the batch back from ano today.
Have to inspect and package them. Probably won’t get them over to distribution until Monday or Tuesday. There’s going to be a lot of blem uppers again. Typically just some very slight carbon streaking. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:04:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: I got the batch back from ano today. Have to inspect and package them. Probably won't get them over to distribution until Monday or Tuesday. There's going to be a lot of blem uppers again. Typically just some very slight carbon streaking. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:10:33 PM EST
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Yes, the forgings process hammers a lot of crap into the surface of the parts.
Unless you can polish all the “as forged” surfaces you will get dark streaking in the finish with gray. It’s present on black anodized parts also, but is covered up better. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:11:08 PM EST
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Thats what I figured
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