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Posted: 2/18/2023 8:26:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTM20: I had that same fitment issue with a stripped A1 upper i bought from one of the early batches. I picked up an A1 from a later batch and it was good. Kinda disappointed to see they’re still having that same issue with the slickslides now. Finally got a chance to check my blem H&R slickside. Fit is tight but pins can still be pushed in by hand. The rear sight detent hole appears to be uncoated, so i guess it was drilled after anodizing. That must be the blem, since the upper is otherwise good. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 9:00:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: m24shooter]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: New 711 style rifle coming out soon. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2053-2714618.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2057-2714626.jpg Nice. Finally got my M60 bag the way I want it. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2023 9:16:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: As I’ve said before, the original break action guns are not going to happen. I will come up with a single shot rifle of some sort. But it won’t be the Handi rifle. the patent on rolling blocks expired a long, long time ago. With modern casting & CNC machines, shouldn't be too hard. Just saying ....  |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 9:26:24 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTM20: Finally got a chance to check my blem H&R slickside. Fit is tight but pins can still be pushed in by hand. The rear sight detent hole appears to be uncoated, so i guess it was drilled after anodizing. That must be the blem, since the upper is otherwise good. The rear sight detent hole is plugged/masked for the anodizing process. If it’s not plugged the media builds up in it and the chemicals leech out and stain the finish. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 9:28:52 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wganz: the patent on rolling blocks expired a long, long time ago. With modern casting & CNC machines, shouldn't be too hard. Just saying .... Tippmann already makes one and I don’t think they are selling much. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 10:23:58 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: The rear sight detent hole is plugged/masked for the anodizing process. If it’s not plugged the media builds up in it and the chemicals leech out and stain the finish. Good to know, thanks Mike! |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 10:52:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Tippmann already makes one and I don't think they are selling much. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Originally Posted By wganz: the patent on rolling blocks expired a long, long time ago. With modern casting & CNC machines, shouldn't be too hard. Just saying .... Tippmann already makes one and I don't think they are selling much. If we are talking dreams, I'd love a new-built smokeless-rated Martini-action rifle. Very strong and accurate action, but few of the .303 smokeless-rated model are around (I've never actually seen one before). But H&R's history would lean more to sticking to stuff like the M1, T48, and M16 clones. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 12:32:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: ALostKey]
[#8]
Will there ever be an option for round handguards on the 20 inch uppers, or will it only be oval? Also is there a rough timeline for when we could expect m16a2 rifles or uppers?
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IL, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2023 12:42:11 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waldoman: Mike, any update on XM16E1 lowers? |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2023 2:47:18 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Tippmann already makes one and I don’t think they are selling much. Mike just curious, are you making the handguards for the a1 in house, contracted out or using some new old stock orginals. My A1 handguards I got on your upper are dead on with an orginal set I have so they look great. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2023 2:54:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: Twinsen]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: If we are talking dreams, I'd love a new-built smokeless-rated Martini-action rifle. Very strong and accurate action, but few of the .303 smokeless-rated model are around (I've never actually seen one before). Martini-Enfields aren't that rare. Edit: I linked one on gbroker, but it might be a Martini Henry. Can't tell. When I wanted one a year ago, gbroker had a few to choose from. Here's the outfit making a modernized one: https://www.damko-usa.com/damko-modern-martini-rifle-c-54_56/ |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 4:02:16 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: New 711 style rifle coming out soon. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2053-2714618.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2057-2714626.jpg Nice..... I like my home rolled one... 
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Posted: 2/18/2023 4:17:04 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: New 711 style rifle coming out soon. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2053-2714618.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2057-2714626.jpg Will 711 URGs be available? |
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USA
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Posted: 2/18/2023 4:38:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Twinsen: Martini-Enfields aren't that rare. Edit: I linked one on gbroker, but it might be a Martini Henry. Can't tell. When I wanted one a year ago, gbroker had a few to choose from. Here's the outfit making a modernized one: https://www.damko-usa.com/damko-modern-martini-rifle-c-54_56/ Thanks for that link. I might have to look into one! |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 11:59:53 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheCarbineKid89: Mike just curious, are you making the handguards for the a1 in house, contracted out or using some new old stock orginals. My A1 handguards I got on your upper are dead on with an orginal set I have so they look great. Can’t be NOS originals, even though the NOS RH guards are still a dime a dozen, the NOS lefts are becoming extinct. There are some that are made now that look very good, but material is different than originals. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2023 1:44:03 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Twinsen: I don't think the H&R upper and an H&R rear sight kit are compatible. It took 15 minutes just to get the screw in and it was so tight, the rear sight can't be flipped even hitting it with a punch and hammer. I also couldn't get a roll pin through the gas tube hole. I would recommend only buying assembled uppers. This is what i did to fit the a1 sights to the h&r slickside upper.. You have the relief some pressure in the flat spring. I did that by putting the flat spring in a plier and gently squeeze it a few times to reduce the tension of the flat spring. For the roll pin, i had the rear sight wheel between vice. just so that the vice can hold the sight wheel with the hole facing up. use a small needle nose plier to hold roll pin, line up the roll pin with the hole n gently tap the roll pin with brass/plastic hammer just a little so that it holds. then drive it further down with a 1/16 roll pin but make sure u dont drive it too far as the wheel sight needs to go through the screw. now u cam assemble the wheel sight onto the sight assembly with the detent n spring. once everything is lined up, just use a needle nose plier to squeeze the roll pin through the screw. i watch video on a1 rear sight installation, and yes u r right, our h&r rear sight does not assemble as easily as on video, seems like we have stoffer flat spring olus the hole in the rear wheel where u drive the roll pin is slightly undersized. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2023 8:39:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmwguy: This is what i did to fit the a1 sights to the h&r slickside upper.. You have the relief some pressure in the flat spring. I did that by putting the flat spring in a plier and gently squeeze it a few times to reduce the tension of the flat spring. For the roll pin, i had the rear sight wheel between vice. just so that the vice can hold the sight wheel with the hole facing up. use a small needle nose plier to hold roll pin, line up the roll pin with the hole n gently tap the roll pin with brass/plastic hammer just a little so that it holds. then drive it further down with a 1/16 roll pin but make sure u dont drive it too far as the wheel sight needs to go through the screw. now u cam assemble the wheel sight onto the sight assembly with the detent n spring. once everything is lined up, just use a needle nose plier to squeeze the roll pin through the screw. i watch video on a1 rear sight installation, and yes u r right, our h&r rear sight does not assemble as easily as on video, seems like we have stoffer flat spring olus the hole in the rear wheel where u drive the roll pin is slightly undersized. Unbending the leaf spring was the only way I could get it to go together. I probably should have ground the spring shorter and flattened it out more. |
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Posted: 2/19/2023 8:57:37 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Twinsen: Unbending the leaf spring was the only way I could get it to go together. I probably should have ground the spring shorter and flattened it out more. It’s not just the H&R kit. I have installed 3 separate A1 sight kits from H&R, LuthAR, and Fulton and all 3 required me to relieve tension on the spring some before they could be installed. |
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Posted: 2/19/2023 9:17:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Twinsen: Martini-Enfields aren't that rare. Edit: I linked one on gbroker, but it might be a Martini Henry. Can't tell. When I wanted one a year ago, gbroker had a few to choose from. Here's the outfit making a modernized one: https://www.damko-usa.com/damko-modern-martini-rifle-c-54_56/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Twinsen: Originally Posted By CFletch: If we are talking dreams, I'd love a new-built smokeless-rated Martini-action rifle. Very strong and accurate action, but few of the .303 smokeless-rated model are around (I've never actually seen one before). Martini-Enfields aren't that rare. Edit: I linked one on gbroker, but it might be a Martini Henry. Can't tell. When I wanted one a year ago, gbroker had a few to choose from. Here's the outfit making a modernized one: https://www.damko-usa.com/damko-modern-martini-rifle-c-54_56/ I guess I need to spend some money now... |
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Posted: 2/19/2023 2:31:19 PM EST
[#20]
Are we going to see gray a2 lowers too?
@mike_nds |
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Posted: 2/19/2023 3:53:43 PM EST
[#21]
Yes
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Posted: 2/19/2023 4:17:53 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Yes Nice. Any time frame on those? |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2023 8:26:18 PM EST
[#23]
This may have already been posted but a good article on H&R M16A1s if anyone missed it.
Forgotten M16A1 Rifle Manufacturers – GM/Hydra-Matic and Harrington & Richardson Part 1: - https://smallarmsreview.com/forgotten-m16a1-rifle-manufacturers-part-i-gm-hydra-matic-and-harrington-richardson/ Part 2: H&R - https://smallarmsreview.com/forgotten-m16a1-rifle-manufacturers-gm-hydra-matic-and-harrington-richardson/ 
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Posted: 2/19/2023 11:24:21 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shane733: This may have already been posted but a good article on H&R M16A1s if anyone missed it. Forgotten M16A1 Rifle Manufacturers – GM/Hydra-Matic and Harrington & Richardson Part 1: - https://smallarmsreview.com/forgotten-m16a1-rifle-manufacturers-part-i-gm-hydra-matic-and-harrington-richardson/ Part 2: H&R - https://smallarmsreview.com/forgotten-m16a1-rifle-manufacturers-gm-hydra-matic-and-harrington-richardson/ https://i.imgur.com/ZMSbCWG.jpg https://smallarmsreview.com/forgotten-m16a1-rifle-manufacturers-part-i-gm-hydra-matic-and-harrington-richardson/ https://smallarmsreview.com/forgotten-m16a1-rifle-manufacturers-gm-hydra-matic-and-harrington-richardson/ |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:22:55 AM EST
[#25]
Any ETA on complete M16A1s? Been holding my breath since new H&R was announced
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:16:11 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shlouf: Nice. Any time frame on those? Month or two. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:17:38 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jareds06: Any ETA on complete M16A1s? Been holding my breath since new H&R was announced 2-3 weeks is my current estimate |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 7:35:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: LeniAmerca]
[#28]
Seen this on GunBroker, Please remove is not allowed.https://www.gunbroker.com/item/971813388
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Posted: 2/20/2023 8:41:20 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeniAmerca: Seen this on GunBroker, Please remove is not allowed.https://www.gunbroker.com/item/971813388 https://p1.gunbroker.com/pics/971813000/971813388/pix127171766.jpg 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 8:59:54 AM EST
[#30]
723 blems up
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Posted: 2/20/2023 9:49:33 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grondike: I love the white gloves. Wears white gloves in an attempt to look fancy and hide hands Forgets to dust off the item being displayed Winning! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 1:44:12 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: 2-3 weeks is my current estimate Awesome! Maybe someone else could answer this but what time of day do the new H&R products come in stock? Need to set an alarm lol 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 1:50:06 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jareds06: Awesome! Maybe someone else could answer this but what time of day do the new H&R products come in stock? Need to set an alarm lol About noon.
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USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:08:02 PM EST
[#34]
711 blems are up
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:32:40 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCunningham: 711 blems are up Not bad looking and well-priced (IMO). https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-harrington-richardson-711-style-20-ar-15-5-56-1-7-rifle.html |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:52:31 PM EST
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SOM
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:53:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: Blain]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Not bad looking and well-priced (IMO). https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-harrington-richardson-711-style-20-ar-15-5-56-1-7-rifle.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By JCunningham: 711 blems are up Not bad looking and well-priced (IMO). https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-harrington-richardson-711-style-20-ar-15-5-56-1-7-rifle.html  Harrington & Richardson 711 Style 20" AR-15 5.56 1:7 Rifle I got my order in! This is the rifle configuration I am / was the most interested in (aren't the 711's supposed to be C7 uppers w/ A2 lowers though? Looks like it has an A1 upper and A1 non reinforced lower). Will be nice to have the cool retro roll mark too. USA! USA! |
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USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:57:43 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinister: Pure sex right there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/h_R_jpg-2718632.JPG that nice |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:09:19 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinister: Pure sex right there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/h_R_jpg-2718632.JPG Thanks! I had JT do the barrel for me. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:26:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/h/r/hr51655160298b-2.jpg Harrington & Richardson 711 Style 20" AR-15 5.56 1:7 Rifle I got my order in! This is the rifle configuration I am / was the most interested in (aren't the 711's supposed to be C7 uppers w/ A2 lowers though? Looks like it has an A1 upper and A1 non reinforced lower). Will be nice to have the cool retro roll mark too. USA! USA! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By JCunningham: 711 blems are up Not bad looking and well-priced (IMO). https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-harrington-richardson-711-style-20-ar-15-5-56-1-7-rifle.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/h/r/hr51655160298b-2.jpg Harrington & Richardson 711 Style 20" AR-15 5.56 1:7 Rifle I got my order in! This is the rifle configuration I am / was the most interested in (aren't the 711's supposed to be C7 uppers w/ A2 lowers though? Looks like it has an A1 upper and A1 non reinforced lower). Will be nice to have the cool retro roll mark too. USA! USA! Got my 711 specs here |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:47:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/h/r/hr51655160298b-2.jpg Harrington & Richardson 711 Style 20" AR-15 5.56 1:7 Rifle I got my order in! This is the rifle configuration I am / was the most interested in (aren't the 711's supposed to be C7 uppers w/ A2 lowers though? Looks like it has an A1 upper and A1 non reinforced lower). Will be nice to have the cool retro roll mark too. USA! USA! It looks like an A2 lower to me. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:55:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: seand1111]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/h/r/hr51655160298b-2.jpg Harrington & Richardson 711 Style 20" AR-15 5.56 1:7 Rifle I got my order in! This is the rifle configuration I am / was the most interested in (aren't the 711's supposed to be C7 uppers w/ A2 lowers though? Looks like it has an A1 upper and A1 non reinforced lower). Will be nice to have the cool retro roll mark too. USA! USA! 711 came in both the A1 (early) and C7 (later) upper with the A2 lower. The 711 had the full auto FCG. The 713 was kinda the same but had the burst FCG. The 713 mainly had the C7 upper and later had the Gov barrel. |
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SOM
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:04:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: Blain]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: It looks like an A2 lower to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thermionix: Originally Posted By Blain: https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/h/r/hr51655160298b-2.jpg Harrington & Richardson 711 Style 20" AR-15 5.56 1:7 Rifle I got my order in! This is the rifle configuration I am / was the most interested in (aren't the 711's supposed to be C7 uppers w/ A2 lowers though? Looks like it has an A1 upper and A1 non reinforced lower). Will be nice to have the cool retro roll mark too. USA! USA! It looks like an A2 lower to me. Is the lower receiver rear reinforced like the A2 lowers? Can't tell from the pics. |
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SOM
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:10:40 PM EST
[#44]
Quote History I like this rifle configuration too! Colt 703- M16A2 Export Rifle. A2 Buttstock, A2 Upper Receiver, A1 Outer contour barrel, w/1 in 7″ twist (20″), A2 Lower Receiver except M16A1 full-auto fire control, 7.5 lbs. Only way the above and 711 could be better is if they had the Colt CS type stocks. A1 length with A2 materials. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:12:11 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: Is the rear reinforced like an A2? Can't tell from the pics. In the picture it is. Actual product? 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:22:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: Ralekai]
[#46]
Will the complete A1 rifles be available in grey?
@Mike |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 6:57:50 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinister: Pure sex right there. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18978/h_R_jpg-2718632.JPG Yes it is... |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 9:06:23 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blain: https://smallarmsreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/003-51.jpg I like this rifle configuration too! Colt 703- M16A2 Export Rifle. A2 Buttstock, A2 Upper Receiver, A1 Outer contour barrel, w/1 in 7″ twist (20″), A2 Lower Receiver except M16A1 full-auto fire control, 7.5 lbs. Only way the above and 711 could be better is if they had the Colt CS type stocks. A1 length with A2 materials. CS stocks are nice! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:51:37 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: 2-3 weeks is my current estimate Are the first 100 complete M16A1s still going to have serials 1-100? And how many complete A1s can we expect from this first run? Any blems? |
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USA
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Posted: 2/21/2023 8:33:28 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: New 711 style rifle coming out soon. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2053-2714618.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/7A4A2057-2714626.jpg Why... Never seen anyone that wanted an A1 with A2 furniture. |
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