Mike's OFFICIAL H&R Retro thread (Page 7 of 158)
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Originally Posted By usgi1967: @mike_nds. How many lowers were available for sale this round? Wondering how many sold out in the 10 minute time frame. I know a lot of people won’t believe this, but it was exactly 87. The serendipity/irony had me giggling all week. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: I know a lot of people won’t believe this, but it was exactly 87. The serendipity/irony had me giggling all week. Thank you Mike. Great info! Glad you did not say 10  . Gives us high hope.Very respectable and does that mean 13 'Lucky' Blems are headed to sale one day from this batch? |
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Just saw I missed the first batch. Bummer, was at my daughter's softball tournament! Count me in for a future batch. Glad you're seeing some good interest. Now get back to work! 
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We're living in an episode of Who's Line is it Anyway.
Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
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Originally Posted By BGENE: Wheel of doom, I had the same problem about a month or two ago, unable to check out. Spinning blue wheel https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/187445/FKit_PNG-2462166.JPG Same issue a month ago, unable to check out. I literally place 5 - 10 orders a week on various websites with no issues  Cleared cookies, logged out/back in, still spinning wheel. Same old same old I am out Pause Ghostery, Ublock Origin, or whatever similar ad blocker you have running to place the order. |
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Originally Posted By Carbine-Shooter: I'd like to know too. Seems like there was talk a while back about some leftover nodak uppers. I don't care if they are older production or new but I need one in black. (not_mike) Sorry, everything is grey at this time. There's always arsenal refinish, though. (shakes rattlecan suggestively) (/not_mike) (Edited the sound effect back in) |
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The leftover NoDak uppers and blem H&R lowers have been transferred to distribution. I asked the web guys to let me know when they will be listed. I will post the links here. They are ALL GRAY. The vast majority are BLEMS. the only "A" grade parts are a handful of 603's. The blemishes are ano issues, and that reoccurring forge flaw in the left side pocket under the rear sight. THE FIT OF THESE NDS UPPERS IS GOING TO BE LOOSE ON THE NEW H&R LOWERS The NoDak lowers were cut a little different than our new stuff. If you want a better fit, you need to wait and order one of our new production uppers. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By eric496: Pause Ghostery, Ublock Origin, or whatever similar ad blocker you have running to place the order. Originally Posted By eric496: Originally Posted By BGENE: Wheel of doom, I had the same problem about a month or two ago, unable to check out. Spinning blue wheel https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/187445/FKit_PNG-2462166.JPG Same issue a month ago, unable to check out. I literally place 5 - 10 orders a week on various websites with no issues Cleared cookies, logged out/back in, still spinning wheel. Same old same old I am out Pause Ghostery, Ublock Origin, or whatever similar ad blocker you have running to place the order. @eric496 Thanks, I do run ^ |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: The leftover NoDak uppers and blem H&R lowers have been transferred to distribution. I asked the web guys to let me know when they will be listed. I will post the links here. They are ALL GRAY. The vast majority are BLEMS. the only "A" grade parts are a handful of 603's. The blemishes are ano issues, and that reoccurring forge flaw in the left side pocket under the rear sight. THE FIT OF THESE NDS UPPERS IS GOING TO BE LOOSE ON THE NEW H&R LOWERS The NoDak lowers were cut a little different than our new stuff. If you want a better fit, you need to wait and order one of our new production uppers. To clarify because I may be not understanding: The H&R lowers have nothing wrong with them to make an upper loose on them, it has to do specifically with the NDS uppers themselves? H Also, I am unfamiliar with the typical forge flaw in the left side pocket under the rear sight, I saw it referenced earlier in the thread but is this referring to the H&R lower receiver or the NDS upper? Is there a photograph someone could share of what this looks like? Again I am unfamiliar, so I apologize. Thank you! |
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The new H&R uppers and lowers have somewhat different machining than the old NDS product - it's not going to make for a bad match, they're just not going to be be as well-fitted as an all-NDS/all-H&R set. (If it was more than that, I'm sure Mike would be saying "NDS with NDS/H&R with H&R".) The leftover NDS uppers were held back due to forge flaws, and are being released now to keep the howling mobs at bay a little while longer.  I don't have any pictures of what the blem looks like - someone might, possibly Mike.Edit: I probably need to start adding a disclaimer because I'm not affiliated with NDS or H&R except as an end-user. |
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Originally Posted By DeviantHero: Also, I am unfamiliar with the typical forge flaw in the left side pocket under the rear sight, I saw it referenced earlier in the thread but is this referring to the H&R lower receiver or the NDS upper? Is there a photograph someone could share of what this looks like? Again I am unfamiliar, so I apologize. Thank you! I'd like to see a lower receiver w/ a rear sight. 
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Let's go Brandon!
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Originally Posted By DeviantHero: To clarify because I may be not understanding: The H&R lowers have nothing wrong with them to make an upper loose on them, it has to do specifically with the NDS uppers themselves? H Also, I am unfamiliar with the typical forge flaw in the left side pocket under the rear sight, I saw it referenced earlier in the thread but is this referring to the H&R lower receiver or the NDS upper? Is there a photograph someone could share of what this looks like? Again I am unfamiliar, so I apologize. Thank you! Yes, the old, blem NDS uppers are a bit on the loose side. This batch was a little loose on my NoDak lowers to begin with. These parts are BLEMS. They are functional but will have sloppy fit to the new lowers. Here's a pic of the forging flaw present on many of them. It will vary in depth part to part.  |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By backbencher: I'd like to see a lower receiver w/ a rear sight. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By DeviantHero: Also, I am unfamiliar with the typical forge flaw in the left side pocket under the rear sight, I saw it referenced earlier in the thread but is this referring to the H&R lower receiver or the NDS upper? Is there a photograph someone could share of what this looks like? Again I am unfamiliar, so I apologize. Thank you! I'd like to see a lower receiver w/ a rear sight. Therein lies my confusion, I didn’t know if it was being referred to as the rear of the lower receiver by where a rear sight would go or something. Mike, thank you tremendously for your explanation and picture! |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: The leftover NoDak uppers and blem H&R lowers have been transferred to distribution. I asked the web guys to let me know when they will be listed. I will post the links here. They are ALL GRAY. The vast majority are BLEMS. the only "A" grade parts are a handful of 603's. The blemishes are ano issues, and that reoccurring forge flaw in the left side pocket under the rear sight. THE FIT OF THESE NDS UPPERS IS GOING TO BE LOOSE ON THE NEW H&R LOWERS The NoDak lowers were cut a little different than our new stuff. If you want a better fit, you need to wait and order one of our new production uppers. |
So the good  Confirmed flashing as normal.  Looking at some photos and videos, that "maybe" accurate.    |
I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
we've become so used to modern-day computer-programmed CNC-perfection, that some people don't even realize how it was done 50 years ago. Myself, I kind of miss some evidence of forging flash, gives the lower some unique, individual character. PSA should incorporate that in the M16, M4 "Property of US Govt" series, instead of the perfectly milled flat erasing of all forging flash. yeah, but then you'd get all the younger folks and noobs complaining that they got BLEMs. can't please everybody. 
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Originally Posted By Ygolonac: The new H&R uppers and lowers have somewhat different machining than the old NDS product - it's not going to make for a bad match, they're just not going to be be as well-fitted as an all-NDS/all-H&R set. (If it was more than that, I'm sure Mike would be saying "NDS with NDS/H&R with H&R".) The leftover NDS uppers were held back due to forge flaws, and are being released now to keep the howling mobs at bay a little while longer. I don't have any pictures of what the blem looks like - someone might, possibly Mike.Edit: I probably need to start adding a disclaimer because I'm not affiliated with NDS or H&R except as an end-user. Looks sick! Wish it was a rollmark instead of the laser engraving thou |
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Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: Mike, did the serial number range start at 100 or 101? We started stripped lowers at HR2000100. The first few were setup parts and basically scrap. We are going to save HR2000001-HR2000099 for the first run of rifles. With the first 5-10 being held back for us. 
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We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: We started stripped lowers at HR2000100. The first few were setup parts and basically scrap. We are going to save HR2000001-HR2000099 for the first run of rifles. With the first 5-10 being held back for us. Originally Posted By mike_nds: Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: Mike, did the serial number range start at 100 or 101? We started stripped lowers at HR2000100. The first few were setup parts and basically scrap. We are going to save HR2000001-HR2000099 for the first run of rifles. With the first 5-10 being held back for us. |
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Originally Posted By Gripen: You and me both, would look so much better. Wonder what happened to Russian Paint's stamps after JJE sent him that C&D letter? My understanding is that it didn't quite get to the C&D letter stage, but rather Russian Paint voluntarily stopped production once the new production H&R stuff was announced. |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: We started stripped lowers at HR2000100. The first few were setup parts and basically scrap. We are going to save HR2000001-HR2000099 for the first run of rifles. With the first 5-10 being held back for us. we still looking at end-of-year-ish on those? @mike_nds |
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I want to pay more for a little extra flashing on my front sight post!
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Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.
General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human.
https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/the-four-causes-of-classical-education/
General education should not be mere job training, but training in how to be fully human.
https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/the-four-causes-of-classical-education/
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Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: Thanks for answering! Is there a price point on the complete M16A1 rifles yet? No, I don't have all the component costs yet. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By Shlouf: we still looking at end-of-year-ish on those? @mike_nds Too many variables right now. I'll have a better idea in the next month or so. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
| Did you have any idea on when you might release some of the smaller bits? Just wondering since if you offer stripped uppers, will you have Forward Assists and sights available or will the non-barreled uppers include sights and FA (where applicable)? |
I bought all this equipment. What do you mean that the dead AREN'T coming back to life?
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Originally Posted By Thermionix: The lower above looks great, but could probably use a bit more bevelling on the magwell. Nit-picking. That got adjusted after the first batch. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By metalsaber: I'm just hoping they release some little parts. I just threw in some parts in from various lowers parks kits. (not going for clone correct) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/57852/9P8A0498_DxO_Prime-2468772.jpg Nice. I’m hoping the next batch won’t be too long. Dan |
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