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9/19/2017 6:28:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:


Some unknown bolt gunner left a nice plle of 7.62 brass on the 500 yard line, along with his lens cap to a Leupold spotting scope ....
Found it when we were setting up. We're doing demos out there during Modern Day Marine this week.
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I just happen to be headed to Tent 3 today.  

ETA - They had a vintage match recently, could have been left overs from that as most weekends they don't shoot 500, only 300, 600, 800 and 1,000.
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9/19/2017 7:29:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
You're not doing AUSA this year are you?... (just checked, doesn't look like it

Anyways, thanks to one of the members here, I now have a die set and lapua brass to load, once this current trade show I'm working at is over I'll be ordering the neck bushings (0.288" and 0.289"), and some 123 & 130gn ELD to play with. If I'm off on the bushing size someone let me know  
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I didn't have any luck with the 123 Nosler competitions so you may want to focus on the 130grs first.  As to bushings, you may need a .287. I haven't played much with neck tension, but I may once starting this new company winds down a bit.
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9/19/2017 1:45:45 PM EDT
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Thanks for the dillo Mark, and some range time with the "stuff."

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I visited Modern Day Marine today. Quantico is all of 8 miles from the house so it was an easy trip to the show to see the latest in lethality. I spent some time looking over the three exhibit halls and then headed out to the ranges as this was the first time MDM had a range day. I may or may not have seen some proprietary stuff, so this is will be generic.  There were a number of manufacturers on the line with a variety of weapons, calibers and accessories. I stopped at the LaRue tent and spoke with Mark and had some trigger time behind all the weapons including that sweet new full auto 7.62 and the SURG.  I was knocking down targets at 300, 400 and 500, and cleaned some LaRue targets at 400 despite some pretty tough winds. Sorry, the only weapon picture allowed was of a LaRue 260, which just happens to fit nicely into this thread.

 

Hey, does that range look familiar or what?



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9/19/2017 9:57:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I didn't have any luck with the 123 Nosler competitions so you may want to focus on the 130grs first.  As to bushings, you may need a .287. I haven't played much with neck tension, but I may once starting this new company winds down a bit.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
You're not doing AUSA this year are you?... (just checked, doesn't look like it

Anyways, thanks to one of the members here, I now have a die set and lapua brass to load, once this current trade show I'm working at is over I'll be ordering the neck bushings (0.288" and 0.289"), and some 123 & 130gn ELD to play with. If I'm off on the bushing size someone let me know  
I didn't have any luck with the 123 Nosler competitions so you may want to focus on the 130grs first.  As to bushings, you may need a .287. I haven't played much with neck tension, but I may once starting this new company winds down a bit.
I'll toss a 0.287 in the cart as well then, if the 123 suck with the 260 I can always load them in 6.5 Grendel  
9/19/2017 10:16:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
...Sorry, the only weapon picture allowed was of a LaRue 260...
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I'm really digging those rail covers though - KeyMod I presume hope?

ETA: If there is a prize for spotting them, I would love a set (in OD green) for T&E - I have (3) Ultimate Upper's that will ultimately (see what I did there) need these.

9/19/2017 10:20:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnLWare:


I'm really digging those rail covers though - KeyMod I presume hope?

ETA: If there is a prize for spotting them, I would love a set (in OD green) for T&E - I have (3) UU's that will need them.

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I think I see a screw head in there. Guessing a different style of GAPs.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I think I see a screw head in there. Guessing a different style of GAPs.
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The tOBR's and tAR's don't have the hexagons on the handguARds though...
9/19/2017 10:26:35 PM EDT
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Circles up next to the top rail though - the UU's have ovals... it must be this one (MLOK).
9/20/2017 6:27:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnLWare:
I'm really digging those rail covers though - KeyMod I presume hope?

ETA: If there is a prize for spotting them, I would love a set (in OD green) for T&E - I have (3) Ultimate Upper's that will ultimately (see what I did there) need these.

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Originally Posted By JohnLWare:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
...Sorry, the only weapon picture allowed was of a LaRue 260...
I'm really digging those rail covers though - KeyMod I presume hope?

ETA: If there is a prize for spotting them, I would love a set (in OD green) for T&E - I have (3) Ultimate Upper's that will ultimately (see what I did there) need these.

https://s25.postimg.org/v3s7aroxr/Screen_Shot_2017-09-19_at_9.11.40_PM.png
That's the SURG, I handled it, fingered it and fired it out to 500.
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9/20/2017 9:04:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:


That's the SURG, I handled it, fingered it and fired it out to 500.
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This SURGE? Or a different one?
9/20/2017 9:13:46 PM EDT
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This SURGE? Or a different one?
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Originally Posted By Defender3:


That's the SURG, I handled it, fingered it and fired it out to 500.
This SURGE? Or a different one?
I didn't fire the 416, looked it over though. I fired the full auto 7.62 (suppressed with a TQ), the 260 (suppressed with the TQ) and the Suppressed Upper Receiver Group (SURG) with the suppressor shown on Instagram.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:


I didn't fire the 416, looked it over though. I fired the full auto 7.62 (suppressed with a TQ), the 260 (suppressed with the TQ) and the Suppressed Upper Receiver Group (SURG) with the suppressor shown on Instagram.
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Very interesting....you lucky bastard!
9/20/2017 11:26:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I didn't have any luck with the 123 Nosler competitions so you may want to focus on the 130grs first.  As to bushings, you may need a .287. I haven't played much with neck tension, but I may once starting this new company winds down a bit.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
You're not doing AUSA this year are you?... (just checked, doesn't look like it

Anyways, thanks to one of the members here, I now have a die set and lapua brass to load, once this current trade show I'm working at is over I'll be ordering the neck bushings (0.288" and 0.289"), and some 123 & 130gn ELD to play with. If I'm off on the bushing size someone let me know  
I didn't have any luck with the 123 Nosler competitions so you may want to focus on the 130grs first.  As to bushings, you may need a .287. I haven't played much with neck tension, but I may once starting this new company winds down a bit.
actually I'm going to read up on neck tension before I start ordering stuff... Sucks that I'm a hour away from that show, have the day off, but no way I'm getting in to it  and last year I had to deal with all the soaking wet freight that came from Modern Day Marine to the AUSA show... 
9/21/2017 5:53:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
actually I'm going to read up on neck tension before I start ordering stuff... Sucks that I'm a hour away from that show, have the day off, but no way I'm getting in to it  and last year I had to deal with all the soaking wet freight that came from Modern Day Marine to the AUSA show... 
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Go to Whidden's site, he has some discussion about neck tension. Understand you may need to go an extra .001 for a semi due to brass spring back.

Too bad you couldn't make the show, they were on the range again yesterday and today is the last day of the exhibits.  No LaRue at AUSA.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I didn't fire the 416, looked it over though. I fired the full auto 7.62 (suppressed with a TQ), the 260 (suppressed with the TQ) and the Suppressed Upper Receiver Group (SURG) with the suppressor shown on Instagram.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By Pjatton:
Originally Posted By Defender3:


That's the SURG, I handled it, fingered it and fired it out to 500.
This SURGE? Or a different one?
I didn't fire the 416, looked it over though. I fired the full auto 7.62 (suppressed with a TQ), the 260 (suppressed with the TQ) and the Suppressed Upper Receiver Group (SURG) with the suppressor shown on Instagram.
P.S.  The SURG was outfitted with an Aimpoint.  I was hitting at 300y with no issues and a slight right hold for wind.  At 400 the hold was to the right edge of the target and at 500 it was more difficult having to hold a foot or so right and about three feet high.  I don't think it was too bad for a SBR with an Aimpoint.  
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I'm running out of stuff to post so I'll dupe myself.

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Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'm running out of stuff to post so I'll dupe myself.

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9/23/2017 2:10:15 AM EDT
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Spent about 1.5 hours at the range today, got in a couple mags worth of practice. Most of the time was spent helping my son shoot his "mini sniper" rifle. He had a blast, shot some decent groups which he was super proud of. He is already smack talking me that he is a better shooter.

The 260 shot very well. I played with bipod load, which shows me I can move a shot over an inch just with bipod load. I confirmed my zero and shot several single shot bulls. I'm coming up on 2-300 rounds so my barrel should be broken in, and I'll start gathering MVs.

Might go out again Monday morning since I'm free.
9/23/2017 6:23:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mettee:
Spent about 1.5 hours at the range today, got in a couple mags worth of practice. Most of the time was spent helping my son shoot his "mini sniper" rifle. He had a blast, shot some decent groups which he was super proud of. He is already smack talking me that he is a better shooter.

The 260 shot very well. I played with bipod load, which shows me I can move a shot over an inch just with bipod load. I confirmed my zero and shot several single shot bulls. I'm coming up on 2-300 rounds so my barrel should be broken in, and I'll start gathering MVs.

Might go out again Monday morning since I'm free.
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2-300 rounds, that's it?  Slacker.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:


2-300 rounds, that's it?  Slacker.
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9/23/2017 4:15:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:


2-300 rounds, that's it?  Slacker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuzuUtbzVIw
No fair using the boy against me.  
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9/23/2017 4:51:25 PM EDT
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The great equalizer
9/29/2017 5:32:42 PM EDT
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So, been doing a bunch of reading up on the neck tension and how to pick the bushing size. Seems that this is a deep and muddy rabbit hole with varying info all over... So I just picked a spot to start. 
Doing some measuring of the lapua and federal once fired I came up with 0.015" neck wall thickness, So we have 0.264" bullet, 0.030" of brass so with a bullet shoved in it 0.294" outer diameter, reading says most are running 0.001"-0.003" of neck tension. I'm going to try and start with 0.003" for the tension, so 0.290" bushing and see how it goes, have 0.292" 0.289" and 0.288" on order from Midway along with some 130 gn Norma Golden Target Bullets and 130gn ELD.
Need to order the 0.291" and 0.290" bushing from brownells seeing I forgot to put them in the order last night with the lab radar, 10% off + free shipping made that order not quite as painful 

Of course all this stuff is going to show up while I'm stuck working AUSA lol 

Hmm, crap anyone need a LE wilson case gauge for .260, looks like I managed to order one from both brownells and midway 


9/29/2017 5:36:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
So, been doing a bunch of reading up on the neck tension and how to pick the bushing size. Seems that this is a deep and muddy rabbit hole with varying info all over... So I just picked a spot to start. 
Doing some measuring of the lapua and federal once fired I came up with 0.015" neck wall thickness, So we have 0.264" bullet, 0.030" of brass so with a bullet shoved in it 0.294" outer diameter, reading says most are running 0.001"-0.003" of neck tension. I'm going to try and start with 0.003" for the tension, so 0.290" bushing and see how it goes, have 0.292" 0.289" and 0.288" on order from Midway along with some 130 gn Norma Golden Target Bullets and 130gn ELD.
Need to order the 0.291" and 0.290" bushing from brownells seeing I forgot to put them in the order last night with the lab radar, 10% off + free shipping made that order not quite as painful 

Of course all this stuff is going to show up while I'm stuck working AUSA lol 

Hmm, crap anyone need a LE wilson case gauge for .260, looks like I managed to order one from both brownells and midway 


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What are you doing at AUSA?  Maybe I'll stop by.
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Wolf I'll take the Wilson gage, but it has to be the one from brownells

Midway is on boycott
9/30/2017 2:18:07 AM EDT
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What are you doing at AUSA?  Maybe I'll stop by.
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What are you doing at AUSA?  Maybe I'll stop by.
I actually a sub for the trade show company, I do all the freight/booth damage reports so show days I'll be on site for first and probably half of the last day (mostly wandering around both of those days  )


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Wolf I'll take the Wilson gage, but it has to be the one from brownells

Midway is on boycott
Haha, I'll let you know when I get the thing 
9/30/2017 5:47:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mettee:
Wolf I'll take the Wilson gage, but it has to be the one from brownells

Midway is on boycott
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Why are we boycotting Midway?
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Why are we boycotting Midway?
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By mettee:
Wolf I'll take the Wilson gage, but it has to be the one from brownells

Midway is on boycott
Why are we boycotting Midway?
I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
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9/30/2017 4:10:20 PM EDT
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Its a long story, but I had an order issue, and I sought out some customer service. They basically told me to shove off.

I can buy anything they have, some place else.
9/30/2017 4:12:51 PM EDT
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Its a long story, but I had an order issue, and I sought out some customer service. They basically told me to shove off.

I can buy anything they have, some place else.
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Chargeback is the answer...
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9/30/2017 6:54:16 PM EDT
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Lets shoot some 260 people

We need some more range reports for sure
9/30/2017 7:18:01 PM EDT
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Lets shoot some 260 people

We need some more range reports for sure
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That's a lot of people. We should probably notify the authorities.
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9/30/2017 7:20:33 PM EDT
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That's a lot of people. We should probably notify the authorities.
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Lets shoot some 260 people

We need some more range reports for sure
That's a lot of people. We should probably notify the authorities.
Only if we like those people
Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)

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9/30/2017 7:25:32 PM EDT
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Only if we like those people
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
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Lets shoot some 260 people

We need some more range reports for sure
That's a lot of people. We should probably notify the authorities.
Only if we like those people
Oh......well carry on then....I don't like anyone.
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9/30/2017 7:29:55 PM EDT
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Oh......well carry on then....I don't like anyone.
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Lets shoot some 260 people

We need some more range reports for sure
That's a lot of people. We should probably notify the authorities.
Only if we like those people
Oh......well carry on then....I don't like anyone.
The feeling is mutual
Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)

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9/30/2017 8:31:00 PM EDT
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Lets shoot some 260 people

We need some more range reports for sure
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It's time to start shooting FMJ.

Easton FMJ, tipped with Grim Reaper 2" broadheads.  
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Only if we like those people
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Lets shoot some 260 people

We need some more range reports for sure
That's a lot of people. We should probably notify the authorities.
Only if we like those people
You might be onto something.  I could come with 260 I don't like easily.  


Much more easily than 260 that I like.  
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It's time to start shooting FMJ.

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I shoot a 435grn pierce with a rage hyp.
10/1/2017 5:44:22 AM EDT
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I shoot a 435grn pierce with a rage hyp.
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It's time to start shooting FMJ.

Easton FMJ, tipped with Grim Reaper 2" broadheads.  
I shoot a 435grn pierce with a rage hyp.
I prefer 3 blades.
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10/3/2017 1:51:09 PM EDT
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Another 35 rounds down range and not really trying. Just 100 yards.
This rifle shoots very well. Wish I could shoot the JP grendel or .223 as well as I can shoot this rifle.
Longer range next outing I hope.



10/3/2017 2:50:24 PM EDT
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Lookin good Dune
10/4/2017 3:47:02 PM EDT
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It's time to start shooting FMJ.

Easton FMJ, tipped with Grim Reaper 2" broadheads.  
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Yessir! I just picked up some Iron Will Outfitters Broadheads to try out. Pricey, but looks like Larue quality and engineering.
Iron Will Outfitters A2 Steel Broadheads

Good luck out there this season.
10/4/2017 8:37:46 PM EDT
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Yessir! I just picked up some Iron Will Outfitters Broadheads to try out. Pricey, but looks like Larue quality and engineering.
Iron Will Outfitters A2 Steel Broadheads

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Originally Posted By mi650:



It's time to start shooting FMJ.

Easton FMJ, tipped with Grim Reaper 2" broadheads.  
Yessir! I just picked up some Iron Will Outfitters Broadheads to try out. Pricey, but looks like Larue quality and engineering.
Iron Will Outfitters A2 Steel Broadheads

Good luck out there this season.
Yikes!!  You weren't kidding about pricey!!


Good luck to you, too.  
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Ok, Now I can get started on playing with loads for my 260... if I had any spare time right now, just got off a 14hr day + 2.5hrs of travel time (I hate DC) and I'll probably be doing 14-16hr days up to the 9th 
 
Most of this stuff is for the 260 reloading, magpul endplate and medium bad mag release is for my small frame UU 6.5g along with the 123gn pills, the midway repack bullets are 130gn Norma Golden target 
The SS barrel... dirt cheap ($99) AR stoner .308 16", I really don't care how bad it is because it will probably never see more then 200yds  the long B.A.D. mag release is going on the 260 

Oh, and I had a Larue order show up yesterday   (those 10rd mags look so pathetic)
10/5/2017 5:35:57 AM EDT
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Tell me about that large frame barrel with the tOBR barrel nut please.
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Originally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
Ok, Now I can get started on playing with loads for my 260... if I had any spare time right now, just got off a 14hr day + 2.5hrs of travel time (I hate DC) and I'll probably be doing 14-16hr days up to the 9th 
https://i.imgur.com/micECtsl.jpg 
Most of this stuff is for the 260 reloading, magpul endplate and medium bad mag release is for my small frame UU 6.5g along with the 123gn pills, the midway repack bullets are 130gn Norma Golden target 
The SS barrel... dirt cheap ($99) AR stoner .308 16", I really don't care how bad it is because it will probably never see more then 200yds  the long B.A.D. mag release is going on the 260 

Oh, and I had a Larue order show up yesterday   (those 10rd mags look so pathetic)
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Nice. Just got back in town after being away for a while and was thinking about getting onto the .260 or 6.5 game but it does not look like tOBR barrels are available yet.
10/5/2017 9:54:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Tell me about that large frame barrel with the tOBR barrel nut please.
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Barrel nut from LT, barrel is AR stoner 308 1:10" 16" mid-gas $99 from midway, not much to report about it because I only had time to open the boxes last night and then sleep... 
I'll try the fit if I have some time before next Monday (doubtful)
10/5/2017 10:00:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By nihilsum:


Nice. Just got back in town after being away for a while and was thinking about getting onto the .260 or 6.5 game but it does not look like tOBR barrels are available yet.
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There is a complete 7.62 with .260 sparrel on gunbroker right now
10/5/2017 10:17:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WolfMetalFab:
Barrel nut from LT, barrel is AR stoner 308 1:10" 16" mid-gas $99 from midway, not much to report about it because I only had time to open the boxes last night and then sleep... 
I'll try the fit if I have some time before next Monday (doubtful)
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Be careful, while the AR15 platform is standardized, the AR10 is not. LaRue uses a proprietary barrel extension; an aftermarket may not fit correctly.
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