Official Dagger Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Page 15 of 18)
| I’m planning out the slide for my Dagger lowers. I’m looking to put a Radian Ramjet or Strike Industries Mass Driver on an Extreme Carry Cut slide. Both are supplied for specific gems. Does it matter between the Gen 3 and 4 or is only one compatible with the slide? |
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For anyone that hasn't already seen it, Blem Dagger for 299 bucks. I had to order one at that price. BLEM PSA DAGGER COMPACT 9MM PISTOL WITH DOCTOR CUT SLIDE & NON-THREADED BARREL, BLACK DLC |
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So, late to the party but picked up a Dagger with SW1, threaded barrel, and RMR cut. Took it out today (Saturday, 1 APR 2023) and shot 2 & 1/3 mags before the slide stop broke. I've spoken with a few friends, all "Glock guys" and the breakage is something they've never seen...guess I'm special. The portion of the stop that retains the spring broke, which caused the spring to fall under the stop and become totally worthless. The behavior was to lock open on every shot even though the mag had about 10 rounds in it. That said, the real reason I'm posting is the next paragraph: Sent PSA an email when I got home and two (2) hours later had a response with request for address so they could ship me a new one. Wow, impressed with customer service! |
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Originally Posted By ranger51r: So, late to the party but picked up a Dagger with SW1, threaded barrel, and RMR cut. Took it out today (Saturday, 1 APR 2023) and shot 2 & 1/3 mags before the slide stop broke. I've spoken with a few friends, all "Glock guys" and the breakage is something they've never seen...guess I'm special. The portion of the stop that retains the spring broke, which caused the spring to fall under the stop and become totally worthless. The behavior was to lock open on every shot even though the mag had about 10 rounds in it. That said, the real reason I'm posting is the next paragraph: Sent PSA an email when I got home and two (2) hours later had a response with request for address so they could ship me a new one. Wow, impressed with customer service! Sorry to hear about your luck. Glad they are taking care of you. |
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Just installed a Zev Pro trigger in my newest Dagger. Attached File If you decide to replace trigger components on a Dagger, use enough hammer to get the pins moving. Much tighter than a Glock in my experience. That's not necessarily a bad thing, they ain't drifting out lol. |
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does anybody know if the Micro Dagger is a G43 equivalent? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-dagger-micro-complete-slide-assembly-shield-cut-black-dlc.html nvm, found my answer. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/Micro-Dagger-/301-303760/?page=1&anc=bottom#bottom |
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Originally Posted By ranger51r: So, late to the party but picked up a Dagger with SW1, threaded barrel, and RMR cut. Took it out today (Saturday, 1 APR 2023) and shot 2 & 1/3 mags before the slide stop broke. I've spoken with a few friends, all "Glock guys" and the breakage is something they've never seen...guess I'm special. The portion of the stop that retains the spring broke, which caused the spring to fall under the stop and become totally worthless. The behavior was to lock open on every shot even though the mag had about 10 rounds in it. That said, the real reason I'm posting is the next paragraph: Sent PSA an email when I got home and two (2) hours later had a response with request for address so they could ship me a new one. Wow, impressed with customer service! Stuff like this and the garbage finish makes me want to get away from the Dagger completely. |
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Originally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: I don't have great luck with PSA stuff so far. The dagger slide I just received has optic mount holes that are only partially tapped. The provided screws don't even begin to go in.  https://i.ibb.co/nPvHrtY/PXL-20230517-230359804.jpg I apologize for the frustration. If you PM me your order number, I will get you taken care of. Thank you, Josiah |
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Originally Posted By erazor55: I have a couple of Glocks, no problem removing the trigger pin. On my Dagger, I've tried every trick I've read about or watched on YouTube, including the last one I viewed clamping the trigger portion of the frame in soft jaws, and grabbing the slide lock empty mag catch with pliers wiggling/pushing back and forth, etc. but can't for the life of me remove the trigger pin. Is there some other magic I can try? here's what worked for me: requires 3 hands, or, 2 hands and a bench vise. clamp the pin punch (or Glock tool) in the bench vise, sticking out sideways, about belly button height. before starting, with thumb pressure, push the trigger pin in on the left side. This is just to position the notch for the next steps. position the left-side of the frame with the pin-punch resting on the trigger pin, no pressure, just hold it in position. If you apply pressure, you might prevent the front of the slide release from moving up. with the thumb of the hand that's holding the frame, press down on the slide release tab, press it against the top of the frame. insert a mag, so that the mag follower pushes up on the tab of the slide release. when you SEE the hole-end of the slide-release "click" out of the trigger-pin notch, press the frame against the bench-vise pin punch, and the trigger pin will slide out. |
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Originally Posted By DaveyDug: Just put together my first Dagger today, using a FDE frame. I haven't shot it yet, but my God the mag release is horrible. I've only tried it with Glock OEM mags and they stick terribly. I have to push the mag release so hard it makes my thumb hurt to get the mags to drop free. Is that typical? Will it improve as time goes on or should I just get a Glock mag release spring? Originally Posted By DaveyDug: Just put together my first Dagger today, using a FDE frame. I haven't shot it yet, but my God the mag release is horrible. I've only tried it with Glock OEM mags and they stick terribly. I have to push the mag release so hard it makes my thumb hurt to get the mags to drop free. Is that typical? Will it improve as time goes on or should I just get a Glock mag release spring? Originally Posted By DaveyDug: It's the spring. I'm going to keep working with it to see if it improves before going to the next step. replaced my mag release spring with a reduced lbs spring from RYG. it's 0.047" dia vs the std Glock 0.050" thickness. makes a difference. dunno if the Dagger mag release spring is thicker than the stock Glock spring. also replaced the PSA front roll pin for the locking block with a 0.001" over-sized 1/8" x 1" steel dowel pin. Replaced the trigger housing roll pin with a 1/8" X 7/8" steel dowel pin (standard size, not OS), but I chucked the pin into a drill and uses a dremel stone to put a bullet-nose on both ends of the pin so it doesn't gouge out polymer as it's being pushed in/out. Sourced the pins from McMaster-Carr. the PSA trigger group responds well to the Johnny Glock 1/16" roll-pin mod to reduce pre-travel take-up, just need to trim the hinged lower trigger shoe block, same as you would for the Glock OEM dingus, so that the drop safety is still functional. Luckily, the PSA trigger shoe roll pins are easier to work with than the Glock OEM trigger shoe blind pin holes. Neither here nor there, the PSA roll pins are SAE, the Glock OEM pins are metric, so not interchangeable. If you want to use a Glock OEM trigger bar with the PSA trigger shoe, you have to drill out the Glock trigger bar with a #42 (0.0935") carbide drill bit, the Glock trigger bar steel seems to be hardened. Found that the notches in the PSA trigger pin are wider than Glock OEM, so replaced the PSA trigger pin with a Glock OEM trigger pin. The PSA wider notches allow the pin to stick out a little, while still engaged with the slide lock hole, a little annoyance. |
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Any G code RTI compatible holsters? Pistol only or TLR1 compatible? @ me plz |
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Just shot my newest one, 100 rounds of AAC. It's the least accurate Dagger I own. Won't say I am disappointed, but I was a little surprised. Groups at 15 yards, almost twice what my other ones shoot. Maybe it doesn't like that ammo? And POA/POI was off 5" to the left at 15 yards. I do need a sight drifter. The stock trigger is easily the best of all my stock Daggers. |
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Originally Posted By colklink: Just shot my newest one, 100 rounds of AAC. It's the least accurate Dagger I own. Won't say I am disappointed, but I was a little surprised. Groups at 15 yards, almost twice what my other ones shoot. Maybe it doesn't like that ammo? And POA/POI was off 5" to the left at 15 yards. I do need a sight drifter. The stock trigger is easily the best of all my stock Daggers.I'd |
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Originally Posted By colklink: That's an idea. I also have some spare G19 barrels, I think from Bear Creek Armory. Could try one of those. Or you could just try one of your other Dagger barrels... |
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Originally Posted By ScottS: Or you could just try one of your other Dagger barrels... Agreed. And those 2 G19 barrels I have are Combat Armory. May have been manufactured by BCA, idk. I cleaned the pistol, put in a Combat Armory barrel, and a barrel out of one of my known accurate Daggers in the pistol bag, should be able to shoot it tomorrow and see if it makes a difference. At 15, 20 yards, all my Daggers will do about 4" groups, rapid fire. This one was closer to 8". Maybe I was having a bad day, but with a striker fired platform I am used to, 3" to 4" groups at that distance are what I generally shoot. And I have shot a ton of the AAC 115 gn ammo, it's as accurate as any other FMJ ammo I have shot. |
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| It's the barrel. With the Combat Armory barrel, if I really took my time, 10 rounds in 3" at 15 yards. Not super great, but that's as accurate as I am able to be. Stuck the PSA barrel back in, about 8". I am going to contact PSA and see if they wouldn't mind exchanging this barrel. |
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Originally Posted By colklink: There is already a replacement barrel on the way. Thanks again to PSA customer service. |
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Originally Posted By TNRonin: Very good! Kind of wondering if we could get a picture of the offending barrel, to see if there's anything obvious. Also I have not reread your original post but do you know when this particular gun was assembled? Or just a general idea of when it was assembled. I will take pictures asap. It's my newest one, just ordered it memorial day weekend. Just put another 100 rounds through it with the Combat Armory barrel. It did fail to go fully into battery towards the end, but that was almost 300 rounds without cleaning or lube. A tap on the back of the slid and away it went. Shot 2 more 15 round mags after without a problem. That's actually the first malfunction I have in a Dagger. |
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Originally Posted By colklink: I will take pictures asap. It's my newest one, just ordered it memorial day weekend. Just put another 100 rounds through it with the Combat Armory barrel. It did fail to go fully into battery towards the end, but that was almost 300 rounds without cleaning or lube. A tap on the back of the slid and away it went. Shot 2 more 15 round mags after without a problem. That's actually the first malfunction I have in a Dagger. I love the reliability of the dagger. That one could be caused by a number of factors |
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Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: My only complaint with the Dagger is that the grip texture tends to rub skin off my hip and retain the dead skin in the crevasses of the grip.  they really should sell a brush for that... 
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Loving mine. Around 1100-1200 rounds in. No problems at all. Wish PSA would do a run of grey frames. I like the grey slide for mine. I would do a grey frame, black RMR slide with one. 
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Originally Posted By 50cal: Loving mine. Around 1100-1200 rounds in. No problems at all. Wish PSA would do a run of grey frames. I like the grey slide for mine. I would do a grey frame, black RMR slide with one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89/1000001460-2886330.jpg That does look good. I thought they do runs of Grey frames occasionally? |
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Originally Posted By colklink: That does look good. I thought they do runs of Grey frames occasionally? I've looked but may have missed them. |
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I’m new to the Dagger scene. Figured I have a Glock 17.5 and I’d be happy. Well PSA got me with the Freedom Week sales and I ordered the Dagger Compact frame. Please excuse the following newby questions and explain it to me like I’m in the 7th grade. Or even better, like I’m about to go into a nursing home because I’m old. Does PSA have a webpage breakdown on the different models of the Daggers? All I seem to find is sales ads, not product info pages. My assumption are: Standard Dagger is 17.3. Compact is 19.3. But then I see Micro Dagger. WTF is that? Or is the Standard like a Glock 45? Big frames, short slide. Are all Dagger slides the size of the 19? I’ve spent hours going through the website looking at complete slide assemblies. Good website for sales, but tough for reading up on product, options, finishes, etc. I’ve got a feeling there’s no pattern to what PSA is offering, but what stash of barrels, sights and finishing materials they have on hand. All I know is I bought the Glock 17.5 as a suppressor host. Now I want a 19, but I really don’t see a need for a threaded barrel. Still up in the air if I want a RDS since my 17 has an SRO already. |
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: I’m new to the Dagger scene. Figured I have a Glock 17.5 and I’d be happy. Well PSA got me with the Freedom Week sales and I ordered the Dagger Compact frame. Please excuse the following newby questions and explain it to me like I’m in the 7th grade. Or even better, like I’m about to go into a nursing home because I’m old. Does PSA have a webpage breakdown on the different models of the Daggers? All I seem to find is sales ads, not product info pages. My assumption are: Standard Dagger is 17.3. Compact is 19.3. But then I see Micro Dagger. WTF is that? Or is the Standard like a Glock 45? Big frames, short slide. Are all Dagger slides the size of the 19? I’ve spent hours going through the website looking at complete slide assemblies. Good website for sales, but tough for reading up on product, options, finishes, etc. I’ve got a feeling there’s no pattern to what PSA is offering, but what stash of barrels, sights and finishing materials they have on hand. All I know is I bought the Glock 17.5 as a suppressor host. Now I want a 19, but I really don’t see a need for a threaded barrel. Still up in the air if I want a RDS since my 17 has an SRO already. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: I've looked but may have missed them. Yeah, they have them somewhere on their site. I own one. It was a daily deal blem for $59 a month or so ago. I am unable to locate a blem. Gave up looking. |
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: Awesome! Thanks. You're welcome. I believe that was compiled by wickedbeernut. He hasn't posted in awhile. He was extremely prolific posting about the Dagger, then nothing? @wickedbeernut |
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Originally Posted By TNRonin: Very good! Kind of wondering if we could get a picture of the offending barrel, to see if there's anything obvious. Also I have not reread your original post but do you know when this particular gun was assembled? Or just a general idea of when it was assembled. Sorry it took so long @TNRonin This is the barrel with poor accuracy. They sent me a new one, haven't had a chance to try it yet. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: I’m new to the Dagger scene. Figured I have a Glock 17.5 and I’d be happy. Well PSA got me with the Freedom Week sales and I ordered the Dagger Compact frame. Please excuse the following newby questions and explain it to me like I’m in the 7th grade. Or even better, like I’m about to go into a nursing home because I’m old. Does PSA have a webpage breakdown on the different models of the Daggers? All I seem to find is sales ads, not product info pages. My assumption are: Standard Dagger is 17.3. Compact is 19.3. But then I see Micro Dagger. WTF is that? Or is the Standard like a Glock 45? Big frames, short slide. Are all Dagger slides the size of the 19? I’ve spent hours going through the website looking at complete slide assemblies. Good website for sales, but tough for reading up on product, options, finishes, etc. I’ve got a feeling there’s no pattern to what PSA is offering, but what stash of barrels, sights and finishing materials they have on hand. All I know is I bought the Glock 17.5 as a suppressor host. Now I want a 19, but I really don’t see a need for a threaded barrel. Still up in the air if I want a RDS since my 17 has an SRO already. the way I understand it, the Compact Dagger is plain old Glock 19 Gen 3. For the Full-Size Dagger frame, the top half also takes the G19 slide, or the G19L slide, and the mag well is the full-size Glock 17 mags. and the Micro-Dagger is the G43X, G48, same mag well, pistol-grip length, but not the G43. Although, as I understand it, the PSA Micro-Dagger slides will fit the G43 frames. |
