PSA AK-47 Official Build and information thread : (Page 6 of 9)
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Originally Posted By bwc_oh33:
Well, another day and no responses. I wonder WHEN we will see our carriers come in. I am getting pretty annoyed and just want to shoot the gun I have had for going on two weeks. Anyone throw an extra carrier in theirs and give it a shot? I thought someone on akfiles said they tried a carrier from one of their other European rifles and there carrier didn't fit. |
| I could be wrong, but I believe some have reported on akf that the spring guide rod thingy is the part not compatible with euro surplus. It's sightly different in the area where it engages the rear trunnion thing. Some guy posted side by side pics. Is that what you're thinking of? Or are carriers incompatible also? Link? |
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| I emailed Joe a few days ago and he said they should start shipping out early next week after all the engraving is done. I'd still consider putting money towards a SLR107 or maybe a WASR. Heck, I'm already considering that. If you're going to have 1 AK type rifle, may as well have 2 lol |
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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
I could be wrong, but I believe some have reported on akf that the spring guide rod thingy is the part not compatible with euro surplus. It's sightly different in the area where it engages the rear trunnion thing. Some guy posted side by side pics. Is that what you're thinking of? Or are carriers incompatible also? Link? I honestly don't remember what thread it was in. I don't have access to the PSA thread to look in there. I almost wish we had an arfcom industry forum that PSA maintains to ask questions and get answers directly from the manufacturer. Oh wait... |
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I thought someone on akfiles said they tried a carrier from one of their other European rifles and there carrier didn't fit. I thought someone on akfiles said they tried a carrier from one of their other European rifles and there carrier didn't fit. Originally Posted By jekbrown:
I could be wrong, but I believe some have reported on akf that the spring guide rod thingy is the part not compatible with euro surplus. It's sightly different in the area where it engages the rear trunnion thing. Some guy posted side by side pics. Is that what you're thinking of? Or are carriers incompatible also? Link? This is where the AK really differs from the AR15. While the AR15 is built to a single standard. The AK has a lot of variants, made in a lot of different countries. All AK parts are not 100% compatible, and the supply of spare parts is limited to the availability of surplus "kits" imported, which is unpredictable. We cannot solve the lack of 100% interchangeability issue with the AK, but we can supply new parts to an "American Standard" Which will allow our rifles to be easier to maintain and modify as time goes on. |
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Originally Posted By Jfor:
I honestly don't remember what thread it was in. I don't have access to the PSA thread to look in there. I almost wish we had an arfcom industry forum that PSA maintains to ask questions and get answers directly from the manufacturer. Oh wait... 
Edit by PSA: Please keep all posts helpful, and respectful. If you have a question for us, the fastest way to receive a response is to IM us here. Posting randomly in forum threads about individual orders is not expeditious, or recommended. |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
This is where the AK really differs from the AR15. While the AR15 is built to a single standard. The AK has a lot of variants, made in a lot of different countries. All AK parts are not 100% compatible, and the supply of spare parts is limited to the availability of surplus "kits" imported, which is unpredictable. We cannot solve the lack of 100% interchangeability issue with the AK, but we can supply new parts to an "American Standard" Which will allow our rifles to be easier to maintain and modify as time goes on. If I just get my forged carrier I will be happy. Hope they are really shipping soon. There are some other questions looking to be answered above....thanks edit: also, if you have any information on where to file the mag catch to make it a little more easier for mags to catch that would also be greatly appreciated. So far an izzy bakelite, izzy waffle and polish mag will not luck up. My two surplus yugos will lock but with a lot of pressure pushed on the bottom. Thanks- |
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Originally Posted By Jfor:
I honestly don't remember what thread it was in. I don't have access to the PSA thread to look in there. I almost wish we had an arfcom industry forum that PSA maintains to ask questions and get answers directly from the manufacturer. Oh wait... Or, you could, just IM us here. We stand behind our products and are offering to exchange carriers as a sign of good faith. As was posted here earlier by others, please send any requests to [email protected] with your order number, and serial number, and we will send a call tag for your carrier. |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Or, you could, just IM us here. We stand behind our products and are offering to exchange carriers as a sign of good faith. As was posted here earlier by others, please send any requests to [email protected] with your order number, and serial number, and we will send a call tag for your carrier. I did IM you here and akfiles and never heard anything back. I finally got a call tag sent via email after being told the rifle is as it was supposed to be. Then the next day I got a call tag emailed out of the blue. Edit by PSA: You contacted us with the same requests on several different addresses/forums, have had an ongoing conversation with me personally through email, and have had your issues addressed and questions answered. I have invited you to email me if you had any further questions. To come on here and imply that you have "not heard anything back" at this date is disappointing. |
| My coworker and I both got kits and have contacted CS via the akcs email and still no call tags. He just got of the phone with CS and was told that new receivers were going to be shipped to his FFL. WTF, are receivers being sent or just carriers... |
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Originally Posted By m1awolf:
My coworker and I both got kits and have contacted CS via the akcs email and still no call tags. He just got of the phone with CS and was told that new receivers were going to be shipped to his FFL. WTF, are receivers being sent or just carriers... It took a few days before they responded to my email. |
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Originally Posted By Jfor:
It took a few days before they responded to my email. Originally Posted By Jfor:
Originally Posted By m1awolf:
My coworker and I both got kits and have contacted CS via the akcs email and still no call tags. He just got of the phone with CS and was told that new receivers were going to be shipped to his FFL. WTF, are receivers being sent or just carriers... It took a few days before they responded to my email. He sent the email last week and has had several follow ups but still no call tags for our carriers. |
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Originally Posted By m1awolf:
My coworker and I both got kits and have contacted CS via the akcs email and still no call tags. He just got of the phone with CS and was told that new receivers were going to be shipped to his FFL. WTF, are receivers being sent or just carriers... We have responded to all but the requests from Yesterday on the AKCS email address.. Those will be responded to shortly. I have responded to your IM - which did not include the same information as this post. We have set up an email address to expedite service if you wish to request a carrier replacement. Send an email to [email protected] with your order number and serial. |
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Originally Posted By DoorKicker:
Originally Posted By DoorKicker:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Or, you could, just IM us here. We stand behind our products when a customer points out a problem but first blame the customer. We are offering to exchange carriers I still don't know why my coworker was told that they would be sending new receivers to his FFL. Terminology confusion possibly by the phone rep? still makes no sense  He said he was going to email them again at akcs this afternoon on his lunch break for clarification and call tags for our carriers.
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
This is where the AK really differs from the AR15. While the AR15 is built to a single standard. The AK has a lot of variants, made in a lot of different countries. All AK parts are not 100% compatible, and the supply of spare parts is limited to the availability of surplus "kits" imported, which is unpredictable. We cannot solve the lack of 100% interchangeability issue with the AK, but we can supply new parts to an "American Standard" Which will allow our rifles to be easier to maintain and modify as time goes on. I can live with that. |
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Well I spent an hour waiting on hold and got to PSA. I hadn't read any of this before today or before I called for that matter. What I was told by the CSR is that "well I see you ordered on 2/7 and it was approved that day, I wonder why it didn't ship........OHHHHHHH, it's one of those AKs, hold just one moment............................................OK sir, we had some QC issues with the carriers on these rifles but you should expect to see your rifle within 7 to 10 business days." I questioned a bit further but was getting nowhere, was also told I could just cancel for a refund if I didn't want to wait. Go-go google-fu and ARF.com search.........yeah, hope I get a good sample and a forged carrier, but we'll see how this shakes out.
ETA: I ordered a build kit(barreled receiver) #516444672, doesn't even appear on the website anymore. |
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My coworker forwarded the following that he received from PSA,it appears that they want the whole barreled receiver when all we want is the damned carriers. He is less than happy with this whole situation and his first purchase and probably last from PSA. I have a bit more patience and have purchased several uppers,lower build kits\,mags ect and have been happy up to this point,but this is getting ridiculous.
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Originally Posted By m1awolf:
My coworker forwarded the following that he received from PSA,it appears that they want the whole barreled receiver when all we want is the damned carriers. He is less than happy with this whole situation and his first purchase and probably last from PSA. I have a bit more patience and have purchased several uppers,lower build kits\,mags ect and have been happy up to this point,but this is getting ridiculous. From: Info <[email protected]> Date: 2/17/17 9:43 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Subject: "REPAIR" 1790948 ?Please complete the attached repair request form and include it in the package for each lower. Disregard the Repair terminology, this form is to get the lowers to the correct department for exchange. Best regards, Dave Customer Service Palmetto State Armory (803) 724-6950 [email protected] |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Send us an IM with your order number and we will get it straight for you. Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Send us an IM with your order number and we will get it straight for you. Originally Posted By m1awolf:
My coworker forwarded the following that he received from PSA,it appears that they want the whole barreled receiver when all we want is the damned carriers. He is less than happy with this whole situation and his first purchase and probably last from PSA. I have a bit more patience and have purchased several uppers,lower build kits\,mags ect and have been happy up to this point,but this is getting ridiculous. From: Info <[email protected]> Date: 2/17/17 9:43 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Subject: "REPAIR" 1790948 ?Please complete the attached repair request form and include it in the package for each lower. Disregard the Repair terminology, this form is to get the lowers to the correct department for exchange. Best regards, Dave Customer Service Palmetto State Armory (803) 724-6950 [email protected] IM has been sent. |
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Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
PSA - ...Stay classy. Thank you for your comment. When the posts are duplicates, previously addressed, trolling in nature, or TOS violations, they will be removed. if the member continues and refuses to abide by the forum rules, they will be reported. This is a paid industry technical forum, not a personal playground for those who wish to be disruptive. We have the right to moderate our forum. We will continue to allow customers to post their problems, and will offer assistance to those who are genuinely interested in getting their individual issues resolved. If you have a legitimate issue, we are more than willing to help. Customer satisfaction is our goal. |
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I've bumped into several mentions of the front sling loop now.
Do the barreled receivers have them? Do just some have them? If just some have them, is it random or determined by the trim level? I can see this mattering to a few people. It decides if you get the AK or AKM handguard from Magpul, for example. Thanks in advance. |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Thank you for your comment. When the posts are duplicates, previously addressed, trolling in nature, or TOS violations, they will be removed. if the member continues and refuses to abide by the forum rules, they will be reported. This is a paid industry technical forum, not a personal playground for those who wish to be disruptive. We have the right to moderate our forum. We will continue to allow customers to post their problems, and will offer assistance to those who are genuinely interested in getting their individual issues resolved. If you have a legitimate issue, we are more than willing to help. Customer satisfaction is our goal. I thought my comment was very relevant to the situation and was voicing the concerns of many, but you're the boss. I'll keep my frustrations to myself so I don't get a time out or this thread locked. |
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Originally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
I thought my comment was very relevant to the situation and was voicing the concerns of many, but you're the boss. I'll keep my frustrations to myself so I don't get a time out or this thread locked. Your post above contained a legitimate concern, one that we addressed. This forum is a resource for PSA customers, about PSA products and service. If you have an issue or concern with your individual PSA product, we want to know about it. If it is a real issue, we want to correct it. If it is not a real issue, we want to educate people as to why. However, "speaking for the many" is trolling and will be subject to moderation. Thread jacking comments will also be subject to moderation. Locking the thread punishes the thread author, not the offender, unless they are one and the same - as was the case in another thread that was locked. Again, if you have an issue with one of our products, please give us the opportunity to make it right. Your satisfaction is our concern. |
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
I've bumped into several mentions of the front sling loop now. Do the barreled receivers have them? Do just some have them? If just some have them, is it random or determined by the trim level? I can see this mattering to a few people. It decides if you get the AK or AKM handguard from Magpul, for example. Thanks in advance. I will check with production and get the definitive answer for all the models. |
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
I've bumped into several mentions of the front sling loop now. Do the barreled receivers have them? Do just some have them? If just some have them, is it random or determined by the trim level? I can see this mattering to a few people. It decides if you get the AK or AKM handguard from Magpul, for example. Thanks in advance. An AK should have a sling loop on either the gas block or the HG retainer. What PSA did was put HG retainers designed for a rifle with a loop on the gas block, on rifles without a sling loop on the gas block. Done at random, not with any particular kit or rifle. A simple mistake by PSA builders, using the wrong thing. Just like it was a mistake by the PSA guy at SHOT show when he said "No cast parts" It is very obvious that PSA intended to use cast carriers, they just didn't want to be up front about it when asked. Mistakes happen, but how PSA is handling the mistakes is what sux. Laying blame on the customer, deleting posts and then pretending that the post was offensive (when all the post says is the truth) I am sure this post will be deleted by PSA as all my posts have been. PSA continues to pretend that it is an act of "Good Faith" that carriers are being swapped out. When in fact it is simply PSA being forced to provide what they advertised. And calling it a "QC issue" when it gets caught by future customers...LOL |
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Questions:
1. When will the new non-freedom versions of the barreled receivers start shipping? The forged / CHF goodness. 2. Is there any chance you guys will sell your variant of the spring guide rod without the actual spring? Some of us like to use tuning kits / our own springs. 3. Any chance you guys will still AKs with either 1/2x28 threads or 5/8x24 threads? Commie threads are fine if you like not so great (but authentic!) muzzle devices... For those of us that like good muzzle devices and running silencers US thread patterns would be way better. Right now I have to ship all my AKs to a bbl threading guy to have useful threads put on them. It'd be easier if they started that way... |
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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
Questions: 1. When will the new non-freedom versions of the barreled receivers start shipping? The forged / CHF goodness. Originally Posted By jekbrown:
Questions: 1. When will the new non-freedom versions of the barreled receivers start shipping? The forged / CHF goodness. I don't have exact timelines for these, they are in development and are subject to delay as final production details are squared away. 2. Is there any chance you guys will sell your variant of the spring guide rod without the actual spring? Some of us like to use tuning kits / our own springs. I'm sure there is. 3. Any chance you guys will still AKs with either 1/2x28 threads or 5/8x24 threads? Commie threads are fine if you like not so great (but authentic!) muzzle devices... For those of us that like good muzzle devices and running silencers US thread patterns would be way better. Right now I have to ship all my AKs to a bbl threading guy to have useful threads put on them. It'd be easier if they started that way... Perhaps in the US caliber versions (5.56, 308). |
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Originally Posted By DoorKicker:
An AK should have a sling loop on either the gas block or the HG retainer. What PSA did was put HG retainers designed for a rifle with a loop on the gas block, on rifles without a sling loop on the gas block. Done at random, not with any particular kit or rifle. A simple mistake by PSA builders, using the wrong thing. Just like it was a mistake by the PSA guy at SHOT show when he said "No cast parts" It is very obvious that PSA intended to use cast carriers, they just didn't want to be up front about it when asked. Mistakes happen, but how PSA is handling the mistakes is what sux. Laying blame on the customer, deleting posts and then pretending that the post was offensive (when all the post says is the truth) I am sure this post will be deleted by PSA as all my posts have been. PSA continues to pretend that it is an act of "Good Faith" that carriers are being swapped out. When in fact it is simply PSA being forced to provide what they advertised. And calling it a "QC issue" when it gets caught by future customers...LOL I would just buy a romy etc carrier and throw the cast carrier in the parts bin for a rainy day. |
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So I ordered one of these blem kits and a MOE parts kit to complete it. Got the parts kit in pretty quick. Blem AK came in yesterday. I proceeded to look it over. Carrier appears cast, but it was actually otherwise really nice looking.
I got it home and opened up my MOE parts kit and that is when all the trouble started. #1. I don't have a disconnector. I have a trigger and a disconnector spring, but no disconnector. What I DO have is the dentent/detent springs and the entire mag catch/safety assembly from an AR15. I called and waited on hold for a total of about an hour and a half, then emailed them about this. #2. The recoil assembly spring is too tight in the rear trunion. I had to cycle the bolt carrier to seat it and then it wouldn't push back out without tapping from a plastic hammer. I did this a few times trying to figure out what was wrong and it seems the piece that fits in the trunion is just a hair too wide. It is already rubbing the finish off. Mentioned that in my email too. So it looks like lots of people aren't getting responses from PSA or they are taking a long time. How long until my TWO show stopping problems get addressed, I wonder? |
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Originally Posted By Exodus5:
So I ordered one of these blem kits and a MOE parts kit to complete it. Got the parts kit in pretty quick. Blem AK came in yesterday. I proceeded to look it over. Carrier appears cast, but it was actually otherwise really nice looking. I got it home and opened up my MOE parts kit and that is when all the trouble started. #1. I don't have a disconnector. I have a trigger and a disconnector spring, but no disconnector. What I DO have is the dentent/detent springs and the entire mag catch/safety assembly from an AR15. I called and waited on hold for a total of about an hour and a half, then emailed them about this. #2. The recoil assembly spring is too tight in the rear trunion. I had to cycle the bolt carrier to seat it and then it wouldn't push back out without tapping from a plastic hammer. I did this a few times trying to figure out what was wrong and it seems the piece that fits in the trunion is just a hair too wide. It is already rubbing the finish off. Mentioned that in my email too. So it looks like lots of people aren't getting responses from PSA or they are taking a long time. How long until my TWO show stopping problems get addressed, I wonder? Still a waiting game...No new carriers yet and we're on a solid two weeks since people sent them in. Hopefully your issues are addressed quickly- AR parts in your AK build kit..wild... edit: Just pulled this off AKfiles- this is PSA's response over there regarding when the carriers will be shipped- "The new batch of carriers should arrive back from surface finish Friday or Monday, then allow a a day or so to be engraved before we ship them out." |
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Buddy of mine ordered two barreled assemblies and is going on a week of not-shipped-yet.
One hopes that delay is making sure the product is up to snuff after all the bad "press" from forums. I'm planning on getting one of these barreled assemblies, but am more fiscally limited; so I started with a MOE build kit. I got my kit just a couple of days after ordering. I got everything I ordered PLUS most of an AR LPK. I'm in a quandary and holding pattern about the assembly now. I hope they make it right. |
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
Buddy of mine ordered two barreled assemblies and is going on a week of not-shipped-yet. One hopes that delay is making sure the product is up to snuff after all the bad "press" from forums. I'm planning on getting one of these barreled assemblies, but am more fiscally limited; so I started with a MOE build kit. I got my kit just a couple of days after ordering. I got everything I ordered PLUS most of an AR LPK. I'm in a quandary and holding pattern about the assembly now. I hope they make it right. I'm in the same boat. Ordered mine on 2/7, it's been in limbo. The kit I ordered has been wiped from the website entirely, but the specs it listed are still on Slickguns. It makes no mention of being a "Freedom" or "Premium" version. Hoping I'm getting some extra QC on my kit so I don't have to return it. |
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He says his order says "BLEM PSAK-47 GB2 Freedom Complete Barreled Receiver Finished - 516445020B".
When speaking with him about it he definitely wanted the forged bolt carriers, and would probably be here talking about it, but he's not very computer savvy. We're taking a wait and see position. What else can we do without parts to examine? I don't want to prejudge things because I really think that things that go wrong are disproportionately represented on the internet. People just don't start threads about how everything was just like they expected it to be when it's positive. And that's before they're accused of being shills! What I am hoping is that the very negative reports I've seen so far are the outliers. Fingers crossed! |
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
He says his order says "BLEM PSAK-47 GB2 Freedom Complete Barreled Receiver Finished - 516445020B". When speaking with him about it he definitely wanted the forged bolt carriers, and would probably be here talking about it, but he's not very computer savvy. We're taking a wait and see position. What else can we do without parts to examine? I don't want to prejudge things because I really think that things that go wrong are disproportionately represented on the internet. People just don't start threads about how everything was just like they expected it to be when it's positive. And that's before they're accused of being shills! What I am hoping is that the very negative reports I've seen so far are the outliers. Fingers crossed! Your buddy is getting cast carriers, I almost guarantee it. I would guarantee it normally, but it's PSA, they might send him ar15 barreled receivers. Most here ordered before the barreled receivers were designated as "freedom". When they changed to "freedom", psa also listed the carrier material as "cast steel". Before that there was no mention of the carrier material in the description. He's getting cast carriers. He needs to cancel if he doesn't want that. I know, I broke my no more posting rule. |
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I am pretty sure that when he ordered there wasn't a "freedom" on the web page to click on.
That's because he would have asked if he should hold out for "premium", because he did ask about the difference between blem and not. I've talked to him and he says he's likely to ask for the upgrade to forged carrier. |
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
He says his order says "BLEM PSAK-47 GB2 Freedom Complete Barreled Receiver Finished - 516445020B". This is why I assumed he ordered the freedom. |
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
I am pretty sure that when he ordered there wasn't a "freedom" on the web page to click on. That's because he would have asked if he should hold out for "premium", because he did ask about the difference between blem and not. I've talked to him and he says he's likely to ask for the upgrade to forged carrier. I doubt they will upgrade the carrier since it is a "freedom" kit. I would recommend for him to cancel his order and either wait for the premium kit or buy an AK somewhere else. |
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Originally Posted By Jfor:
I doubt they will upgrade the carrier since it is a "freedom" kit. I would recommend for him to cancel his order and either wait for the premium kit or buy an AK somewhere else. As I said, "wait and see". I think he can make a fair case that despite their putting "freedom" on the invoice, such a designator didn't exist when he ordered. There were just blem and non-blem barreled receivers. We'll see. |
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