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Posted: 10/7/2016 7:45:50 AM EST
[#1]
As of today PSA has had my BCG for a month. Hopefully a fix is in the works as I'm ready to get back to the range.
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Posted: 10/7/2016 2:41:15 PM EST
[#2]
Shot today with an alg trigger and 4-12 scope. Cheap ammo 1moa all day long. Mag drags when hand cycling but gun ran flawless all day. The mags wear it in just barely rubbing. Bulgarian mags are great no rub Steel no problem. Magpul is the only culprit of magazine rub on my setup nothing 20rd or a light file won't fix.
Stay away from Korean junk they don't even run in the real ak. Today was a shoot out of hybrids. Sig 556R RRA liar or whatever it is and ks47 RRA ANS KS 47 drove awesome groups the KS is very heavily gassed and recoil vs the RRA |
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Posted: 10/7/2016 3:01:19 PM EST
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I'm running the PSA Hbar mid setup with the mlok rail. Fiochi ammo gave the best groups followed by hornadythe worst was brown bear but was still at or just over 1 moa. It dance all around the edge of the bullseye and inside. Haven't received any golden tiger yet.
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Posted: 10/8/2016 10:38:29 AM EST
[#4]
Well, my lower is at the engraver's and and I have two stripped uppers and BCGs on hand.
Next will be Cerakote and ordering the 11" barrel. Should have mine running in 2-3 weeks, just in time for our suppressor and full auto shoot. Getting pretty excited! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/8/2016 2:50:01 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Well fuck Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By rlltd42:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
So I have a 12.5" 762x39 AR that I'm not wild about because of the temperamental and somewhat expensive ASC mags Can I slap this upper (surplus ammo and arms barrel, AIM BCG, Aero upper) on a PSA lower and run MOE AK mags, Polish AK mags, Bakelite, etc? http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/ppcseniortrip/762x39%20image%203.jpg No, you need a KS-47 upper as it is slightly wider to accommodate the AK mags. Well fuck Originally Posted By wayne1one:
Originally Posted By JerDerv:
Stripped uppers please. Say it again!!! The exact point I'm making...no stripped uppers = no interest. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2016 5:50:39 PM EST
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I finally got a chance to get my KS-47 to the range and shoot it. This thing is AWESOME! I did have the same magazine issues that everybody else mentioned; bolt carrier catching on new mags and FTE/FTF when resting the gun on the magazine.
I fixed the first issue by hitting a stack of magazines with a dremel to speed up that breaking in process. I fixed the second issue by 3D printing a little plastic piece that keeps Magpul magazines from inserting any further into the lower receiver than they need to. I printed out a handful of these for like $0.04 each and rubberbanded them to the magazines and now i have no issue resting the gun on them if I want to. 
So once the magazine issues were taken care of, it was smooth sailing. The KS-47 feel like it has more recoil and balls than my 300 blackout pistol which I liked. The ammo is 1/2 the price (or less) than the .300, which I also liked. I had my PSAK-47 GB2 out there beside and ran them side by side. For me, shooting the KS-47 was more comfortable because it doesn't feel as heavy as the AK and I like the feel of the AR-style trigger VS the AK. |
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Posted: 10/8/2016 5:52:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune:
I finally got a chance to get my KS-47 to the range and shoot it. This thing is AWESOME! I did have the same magazine issues that everybody else mentioned; bolt carrier catching on new mags and FTE/FTF when resting the gun on the magazine. I fixed the first issue by hitting a stack of magazines with a dremel to speed up that breaking in process. I fixed the second issue by 3D printing a little plastic piece that keeps Magpul magazines from inserting any further into the lower receiver than they need to. I printed out a handful of these for like $0.04 each and rubberbanded them to the magazines and now i have no issue resting the gun on them if I want to. http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/giantpune/ks47_magpul_block_zpseqmajxan.png So once the magazine issues were taken care of, it was smooth sailing. The KS-47 feel like it has more recoil and balls than my 300 blackout pistol which I liked. The ammo is 1/2 the price (or less) than the .300, which I also liked. I had my PSAK-47 GB2 out there beside and ran them side by side. For me, shooting the KS-47 was more comfortable because it doesn't feel as heavy as the AK and I like the feel of the AR-style trigger VS the AK. Can you post a picture of your 3d printed piece on a magazine? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2016 6:18:23 PM EST
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It still looks pretty ugly. I had glow-in-the-dark plastic in the printer when I did these, so that's how they came out. The idea is that my piece fits around narrow part of the top of the magazine. Directly below that, the magazine gets wider and my piece keeps it from going any further into the lower receiver. Now that I know it works, I think I will print them in black and maybe epoxy them in place rather than rubber band them. I got one of those KS-47 rifle kit with 10 magazine deals, so I'm ok with epoxying on some of them. My initial idea was to have the piece somehow attach to the lower receiver but I haven't come up with a way to do that yet. I may try finding some longer pins and having them somehow hold it in place.
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Posted: 10/8/2016 6:46:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: rlltd42]
[#9]
A bit off topic but any thoughts on optimal barrel length for a SBR KS-47? I put 12.5 on my form 1 but am rethinking it while I wait. I'm leaning more towards 11.5 but just not sure. IIRC you can change the send the ATF a courtesy letter if you want to in regards to barrel length. My stamp should be back sometime in November.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2016 7:04:06 PM EST
[#10]
Optimum what? Ive seen a few SBR/pistol in 7.62x39. They all shoot a bunch of powder out the muzzle and create a huge concussion and fireball. If you're wanting optimum fireball, shorter is better. For optimum bullet speed, the internet says that 7.62x39 (brown bear, 123gr HP) had the highest muzzle velocity out of a 23 inch barrel.
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Posted: 10/8/2016 7:07:46 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune:
Optimum what? Ive seen a few SBR/pistol in 7.62x39. They all shoot a bunch of powder out the muzzle and create a huge concussion and fireball. If you're wanting optimum fireball, shorter is better. For optimum bullet speed, the internet says that 7.62x39 (brown bear, 123gr HP) had the highest muzzle velocity out of a 23 inch barrel. Optimal as in a good comprimise between compact length and muzzle velocity. The manufacturer's minimum for my suppressor is 10.5 so that dictates one end of the spectrum. |
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Posted: 10/8/2016 8:19:39 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rlltd42:
A bit off topic but any thoughts on optimal barrel length for a SBR KS-47? I put 12.5 on my form 1 but am rethinking it while I wait. I'm leaning more towards 11.5 but just not sure. IIRC you can change the send the ATF a courtesy letter if you want to in regards to barrel length. My stamp should be back sometime in November. 10.75 to 11" is a good balance of all aspects and just clears a 10" handguard, which has just enough real estate for an AFG and TLR and length to be confortable and controlable. -Lee |
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Posted: 10/9/2016 2:03:12 AM EST
[#13]
Ordered a blem lower.
Now to figure out how to build it... 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2016 6:26:58 PM EST
[#14]
^^ Dont really have any choices, you have to buy an assembled upper from PSA since they dont sell stripped uppers.....
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Posted: 10/9/2016 11:57:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mr_Smiley]
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JerDerv: ^^ Dont really have any choices, you have to buy an assembled upper from PSA since they dont sell stripped uppers..... Speaking of that... From what I've seen, these lowers will accept milspec uppers. If that's the case, can't we just mill out an upper to accept the larger mag? From my searching this seems to be a common practice with people that have bought MGI lowers. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/10/2016 9:30:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: MFRecon2]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
Speaking of that... From what I've seen, these lowers will accept milspec uppers. If that's the case, can't we just mill out an upper to accept the larger mag? From my searching this seems to be a common practice with people that have bought MGI lowers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
Originally Posted By JerDerv:
^^ Dont really have any choices, you have to buy an assembled upper from PSA since they dont sell stripped uppers..... Speaking of that... From what I've seen, these lowers will accept milspec uppers. If that's the case, can't we just mill out an upper to accept the larger mag? From my searching this seems to be a common practice with people that have bought MGI lowers. Yes. The uzibutton has one and used one of spikes billet uppers since it was thicker. There was a video posted in this thread I believe of a guy using a standard upper. Then there's these guys . They say it may work with other lowers. I was gonna try it out till I picked up the pistol kit for 400 bucks lol https://billet80.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=76&product_id=122#container |
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Posted: 10/10/2016 10:21:48 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFRecon2: Yes. The uzibutton has one and used one of spikes billet uppers since it was thicker. There was a video posted in this thread I believe of a guy using a standard upper. Then there's these guys . They say it may work with other lowers. I was gonna try it out till I picked up the pistol kit for 400 bucks lol https://billet80.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=76&product_id=122#container Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFRecon2: Originally Posted By Mr_Smiley: Originally Posted By JerDerv: ^^ Dont really have any choices, you have to buy an assembled upper from PSA since they dont sell stripped uppers..... Speaking of that... From what I've seen, these lowers will accept milspec uppers. If that's the case, can't we just mill out an upper to accept the larger mag? From my searching this seems to be a common practice with people that have bought MGI lowers. Yes. The uzibutton has one and used one of spikes billet uppers since it was thicker. There was a video posted in this thread I believe of a guy using a standard upper. Then there's these guys . They say it may work with other lowers. I was gonna try it out till I picked up the pistol kit for 400 bucks lol https://billet80.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=76&product_id=122#container Sweet! I'm glad that's the case. My plan right now is to try and find a nice thick billet side charging upper (looking at matrix arms right now) because I have a feeling I would hate the T handle on a rifle with no bolt hold open |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:55:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: st381]
[#18]
Hi all, my KS47 was having rounds get stuck between my mag feed lips and feed ramp. The round would hit the top of the chamber before it fully released from the mag and jam. So I took out the Dremel and re profiled the feed ramp. I ground and rounded the center lug of the feed ramp giving room for the bigger bullet and cartridge to properly feed at a less sever angle. Now my cheapy bulgarian commercial 40 round mags and Croatian steel 30 rounders feed flawlessly and no more FTFs. So if you are getting FTFs or FTEs you may consider looking at the feed ramps that are cut for 5.56 rounds and using a Dremel to round out and lower the angle of the center feed ramp lug and widen the feed ramps to accommodate the profile of the larger 7.62x39 round.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:53:30 PM EST
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Posted: 10/26/2016 2:13:00 AM EST
[#20]
2 quick questions...
Does this lower have a bolt catch? Does PSA make an upper with a mid weight (not heavy) profile and mlok handguards? |
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Posted: 10/26/2016 6:23:50 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By badkarmaiii:
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n434/badkarmaiii/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/20161025_171611_zps0n6nnipx.jpg Nice 
Barrel length/brand? |
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Posted: 10/26/2016 9:15:21 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By themagikbullet:
Nice
Barrel length/brand? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By themagikbullet:
Originally Posted By badkarmaiii:
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n434/badkarmaiii/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/20161025_171611_zps0n6nnipx.jpg Nice
Barrel length/brand? KAK 11" 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:40:55 AM EST
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Is a replacement mag catch available? I'm in California and would like to modify one to do a bullet button so I can register it next year, but would like to have an intact one for out of state use.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:45:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: noob]
[#24]
Originally Posted By Hawaii_Built:
2 quick questions... Does this lower have a bolt catch? Does PSA make an upper with a mid weight (not heavy) profile and mlok handguards? There's no bolt catch. http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ks47-16-7-62x39mm-moe-13-m-lok-lightweight-rifle-kit-7790348.html hopefully that's available before too long. It says lightweight and then heavy profile, so I imagine there's something wrong there. |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 8:19:10 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob:
Is a replacement mag catch available? I'm in California and would like to modify one to do a bullet button so I can register it next year, but would like to have an intact one for out of state use. The mag catch is a real PITA to install. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/28/2016 9:22:58 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob:
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ks47-16-7-62x39mm-moe-13-m-lok-lightweight-rifle-kit-7790348.html hopefully that's available before too long. It says lightweight and then heavy profile, so I imagine there's something wrong there. The call their handgaurds lightweight. Barrel Profile: Heavy Hand guard Type: PSA 13.5" M-lok Lightweight |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2016 10:16:21 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 14point5:
10.5" barrels on sale for $79.99 + free shipping http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-47-762x39-10-5-barrel-nitride.html http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/a/daily_deal_10052016_sku_506979.jpg So are all of the AR47 barrels compatible or do they have to specify KS47? |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 9:12:25 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CaptColtMossberg:
So are all of the AR47 barrels compatible or do they have to specify KS47? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CaptColtMossberg:
Originally Posted By 14point5:
10.5" barrels on sale for $79.99 + free shipping http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-47-762x39-10-5-barrel-nitride.html http://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/a/daily_deal_10052016_sku_506979.jpg So are all of the AR47 barrels compatible or do they have to specify KS47? Barrels are "standard" 7.62x39 AR barrels for a .125" bolt face depth. Colt's 7.62x39 bolts and barrels were .136" depth, later used for 6.5G. Nothing special for KS47 as the PSA bolt is .125" depth. I wish ARP would sell their 750 XD bolts and extensions or PSA would produce their own copy to make the system stronger. Time will tell... |
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Posted: 10/31/2016 10:30:39 AM EST
[#29]
PSA - Any word on the BCG I sent in for you to look at in early September?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 10/31/2016 11:18:53 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By badkarmaiii:
The mag catch is a real PITA to install. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By badkarmaiii:
Originally Posted By noob:
Is a replacement mag catch available? I'm in California and would like to modify one to do a bullet button so I can register it next year, but would like to have an intact one for out of state use. The mag catch is a real PITA to install. that makes things fun
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/31/2016 12:41:09 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob:
Apparently they won't sell me a spare either that makes things funPM sent |
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Posted: 11/5/2016 4:04:34 PM EST
[#32]
Got the gas block set the other night.
18" fireball with the ASR brake! Rifle ejects empties at 4 o'clock unsuppressed and 3 o'clock suppressed. Had three light primer hits so I swapped out the JP springs for new mil-spec springs. No other malfunctions. We'll see how it runs tomorrow... -Lee |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2016 9:53:37 PM EST
[#33]
My KS47 it was a long build. I was able to get the lower pretty quickly but the upper and BCG came from the pistol build kit offered by PSA.
KS47 Lower KS47 Upper KS47 BCG Faxon Firearms 12.5" Barrel, carbine gas system with Silencerco Specwar Brake Matrix Arms 11" Foxtrot Handguard ALG Defense ACT Trigger Magpul MBUS front and rear sight, Moe+ Grip and MOE SL Stock Strike Industries ARCH EL charging handle and forward assist H3 Buffer HOLOSUN 503g with ACSS reticle SilencerCo OMEGA runs trouble free ...using Magpul PMAgs..and yes the bolt has shave a very very small amount of material off the top of the mags 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2016 10:28:30 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odie18:
My KS47 it was a long build. I was able to get the lower pretty quickly but the upper and BCG came from the pistol build kit offered by PSA. KS47 Lower KS47 Upper KS47 BCG Faxon Firearms 12.5" Barrel, carbine gas system with Silencerco Specwar Brake Matrix Arms 11" Foxtrot Handguard ALG Defense ACT Trigger Magpul MBUS front and rear sight, Moe+ Grip and MOE SL Stock Strike Industries ARCH EL charging handle and forward assist H3 Buffer HOLOSUN 503g with ACSS reticle SilencerCo OMEGA runs trouble free ...using Magpul PMAgs..and yes the bolt has shave a very very small amount of material off the top of the mags https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947753_1352805044729864_6127736672376197846_n.jpg?oh=6b74b9b3451776f5b016144c344ea56a&oe=5888B6A8 https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14956452_1352805238063178_148709834379046288_n.jpg?oh=f5833569212ecf2d63e7d063664abd69&oe=588D4A52 How does it run with the Omega? Is it quiet enough to be hearing safe? And are you running the plain-jane gas block? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/9/2016 2:31:11 AM EST
[#35]
It is loud....I amthinking the short barrel is not helping at all ....but it runs good ..I am going to see if I can get a heavier buffer or an adjustable gas block
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AK, USA
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Posted: 11/9/2016 2:52:15 PM EST
[#36]
As it appears PSA reads this forum, I want to give you the perspective of a potential new customer:
I've been interested in building a KS-47 since seeing it featured on a prominent YouTube gun channel a few months ago. Unfortunately, with the mounting bolt and magazine issues, I just can't justify the purchase at this time. I was literally with credit card in hand yesterday ready to make a purchase, but decided against it at the last second; in no small part due to the negative user experiences documented on this forum. The platform appears to have great potential; but a potential not yet fully realized due to the issues still plaguing it. Hopefully, the design flaws and suggestions for correcting them offered on this forum and elsewhere will spur PSA to fix the problems (all new KS-47 for 2017, perhaps?). Fortunately, there's not much competition in this particular configuration (for now, anyway), so I'm hopeful I will become a proud KS-47 owner in the near future if PSA steps up to the plate to fix what's broken. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 8:40:26 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Dough:
As it appears PSA reads this forum, I want to give you the perspective of a potential new customer: I've been interested in building a KS-47 since seeing it featured on a prominent YouTube gun channel a few months ago. Unfortunately, with the mounting bolt and magazine issues, I just can't justify the purchase at this time. I was literally with credit card in hand yesterday ready to make a purchase, but decided against it at the last second; in no small part due to the negative user experiences documented on this forum. The platform appears to have great potential; but a potential not yet fully realized due to the issues still plaguing it. Hopefully, the design flaws and suggestions for correcting them offered on this forum and elsewhere will spur PSA to fix the problems (all new KS-47 for 2017, perhaps?). Fortunately, there's not much competition in this particular configuration (for now, anyway), so I'm hopeful I will become a proud KS-47 owner in the near future if PSA steps up to the plate to fix what's broken. I did the exact same thing a few weeks ago. Still debating a ks47 build or putting the upper on a regular lower, if I even do either at this point. I'll probably just build a side charging ar in 7.62x39. |
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Posted: 11/10/2016 5:58:02 PM EST
[#38]
I'm impressed by the lower guys
Extremely well thought out. |
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Posted: 11/14/2016 12:11:15 PM EST
[#39]
A few hundred rounds later the 11" KS47 is still trouble-free with every mag and ammo combination tried, both unsuppressed and suppressed.
Hearing-safe and the same length as a 16" carbine is pretty cool. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 6:38:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: badkarmaiii]
[#40]
OMG IT FOLDS!!! Got bored this morning and installed the Law Tactical FSA that I traded for... |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 6:05:56 PM EST
[#41]
Don't mind the dirty nails
Upper is going to be sent off to be opened up to accept x39 mags. 
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Posted: 11/19/2016 7:07:07 PM EST
[#42]
Who's doing the work?
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USA
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Posted: 11/19/2016 7:34:31 PM EST
[#43]
Wow! You guys sure do have good looking floors!!!
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/19/2016 10:55:59 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
Upper is going to be sent off to be opened up to accept x39 mags. Post pics of the stripped upper upper when it gets back. I'd like to see how much material is left once it gets machined out. 
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KS, USA
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Posted: 11/19/2016 11:13:37 PM EST
[#45]
Still no stripped uppers available. I'd buy a stripped lower / upper / BCG if they were available.
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Posted: 11/20/2016 12:08:47 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
Don't mind the dirty nails Upper is going to be sent off to be opened up to accept x39 mags. http://i.imgur.com/YkOtzrD.jpg Who are you sending the upper to? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2016 3:45:00 PM EST
[#47]
Anyone brave enough to try the mags PSA has on sale for blk friday?
as others have said... pmags rub, nothing serious just for some additional info, mine do not rub from pressure on the front of the mag as if you were gripping the mag... but could be some serious issues if pressure was being put on the rear of the mag fwd.. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2016 7:23:53 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zombiezach:
Anyone brave enough to try the mags PSA has on sale for blk friday? I got 6 of the Croatian magazines from PSA with the bolt hold open followers. They don't work worth a shit in my KS-47. The bolt rubbed all of them and it'll try to strip a round and then the bullet gets all jacked up and doesn't go into the chamber. FTF every single time. Those mags run fine in my PSAK-47s, just not in the KS-47. |
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Posted: 11/20/2016 8:32:59 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By troy_v:
Who are you sending the upper to? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By troy_v:
Originally Posted By Mr_Smiley:
Don't mind the dirty nails Upper is going to be sent off to be opened up to accept x39 mags. http://i.imgur.com/YkOtzrD.jpg Who are you sending the upper to? I haven't talked to him in a month, and a problem with the upper may have come up 
I sent an email out, when I hear back I'll let yall know. |
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Posted: 11/20/2016 8:33:16 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: I got 6 of the Croatian magazines from PSA with the bolt hold open followers. They don't work worth a shit in my KS-47. The bolt rubbed all of them and it'll try to strip a round and then the bullet gets all jacked up and doesn't go into the chamber. FTF every single time. Those mags run fine in my PSAK-47s, just not in the KS-47. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By zombiezach: Anyone brave enough to try the mags PSA has on sale for blk friday? I got 6 of the Croatian magazines from PSA with the bolt hold open followers. They don't work worth a shit in my KS-47. The bolt rubbed all of them and it'll try to strip a round and then the bullet gets all jacked up and doesn't go into the chamber. FTF every single time. Those mags run fine in my PSAK-47s, just not in the KS-47. |
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