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3/19/2023 7:45:32 PM EDT
I tested out my new 14.5” Geissele URGI upper today on my BCM lower. I had a few issues that I’ve never ran into before as I’ve owned 5 Geissele ARs in the past and never experienced what i did today. I was wondering if yall could help me out.

The ammo used for my range day was PMC Bronze .223 55 grain and some Fioccci .223 62 grain.

First issue arose when I was using a 10 round PMAG. I inserted the mag (loaded with 10 rounds of Fiocchi .223 62 gr. Ammo) and dropped the bolt, squeeze the trigger, trigger clicks, nothing…. The round never fired. I take the mag out, and the unfired round is stuck in the chamber. Gun had to be to be mortared to get the live round out. (again this was with the Fiocchi ammo) I then tried again with now 9 rounds in the mag, SAME result. Gun had to be mortared to extract the live round.

The Second issue I experienced was when the extractor ripped the rim of the casting off only where the extractor grabs the casing and the spent round casing had to be removed by the shop whose range i was using. This was JUST the casing as the round DID fire this time. This issue happened with a 30 round duramag loaded with 20 rounds of the Fiocchi 62 gr .223 ammo.

I then loaded 20 rounds of PMC BRONZE .223 55gr. Ammo into a 30 round PMAG and did a quick mag dump to test function and it cycled fine without any issues.

Any ideas? Im lost
3/19/2023 9:21:22 PM EDT
[#1]
Have you tried cleaning the chamber with a bore brush w/ solvent? I've run across barrels that had so much oil/grease in the chamber that cases would stick. A simple cleaning of the chamber fixed them. Otherwise, it sounds like the chamber dimensions are off. EDIT: I just noticed you said PMC ran fine, so don't rule out a bad lot of Fiocci.
3/20/2023 7:35:37 AM EDT
[#2]
The Fiocchi ran fine in my AUG though. 3 mags worth. Its not the ammo. Im guessing headspace issue. I contacted Geissele. Just waiting for a response
3/20/2023 10:00:40 AM EDT
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The Fiocchi ran fine in my AUG though. 3 mags worth. Its not the ammo. Im guessing headspace issue. I contacted Geissele. Just waiting for a response
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When did you buy it? There was a bad batch of chambers that went out last spring and into summer.
3/20/2023 8:52:21 PM EDT
[#4]
The upper or ammo? Upper was May of 2022. Geissele replied, they are sending me a pre paid shipping label to have it sent in and looked at. Ammo was actually probably the same time cause my GF got it for me for my bday also in May.
3/21/2023 10:06:35 AM EDT
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The upper or ammo? Upper was May of 2022. Geissele replied, they are sending me a pre paid shipping label to have it sent in and looked at. Ammo was actually probably the same time cause my GF got it for me for my bday also in May.
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Upper. That's right in the timeframe of chamber issues.
3/22/2023 8:17:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Interesting. It’s on its way back to Geissele today. Hopefully they get me taken care of. I’ve heard of horror stories but so far they’ve been very helpful with everything. I just want a working upper.
3/22/2023 9:20:20 AM EDT
[#7]
They'll take care of you.
3/22/2023 10:20:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Dealt with a similar scenario, bought a handful of barrels last summer and every one had a defective chamber. It took a couple months after sending them back to all be replaced but Geissele CS did take care of me very well to make up for it.
3/22/2023 5:18:51 PM EDT
[#9]
We will take care of you and make it right!

-GACS
3/25/2023 4:40:00 PM EDT
[#10]
I appreciate that! I have full confidence in your brand. Been a long time customer. Appreciate you reaching out!
3/26/2023 8:51:19 AM EDT
[#11]
Had the same exact issue with my 11.5 urgi upper with an out of spec chamber. Geissele was quick to remedy the issue and get it back. You'll be taken care of.
3/26/2023 6:49:24 PM EDT
[#12]
That’s great to hear. I appreciate you commenting. Will do a follow up post when i get it back and run it through it’s paces. Glad to hear the positive feedback on their customer service.
3/26/2023 7:02:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Same thing happened to me and they went above and beyond taking care of it. Now it’s my favorite upper. Trust G to make it right but I think they really should consider test firing every upper that leaves the factory and this issue would go away.
3/26/2023 7:55:04 PM EDT
[#14]
I agree. But if the company is willing to admit their wrongs and get me taken care of, i will have no problem going back for future purchases. Mistakes happen. No one is perfect.
4/5/2023 6:59:26 PM EDT
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Same thing happened to me and they went above and beyond taking care of it. Now it’s my favorite upper. Trust G to make it right but I think they really should consider test firing every upper that leaves the factory and this issue would go away.
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I thought G did test fire every upper and complete rifle they sell. Or they used to. Am I wrong? @GACS
4/16/2023 1:21:28 PM EDT
[#16]
Hey OP did you get this resolved? Considering ordering a 14.5 URGI
5/30/2023 10:09:32 PM EDT
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Hey OP did you get this resolved? Considering ordering a 14.5 URGI
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Dito.
6/3/2023 5:30:00 PM EDT
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Hey OP did you get this resolved? Considering ordering a 14.5 URGI
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Gotta tag him. @OP

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