Posted: 8/24/2010 12:17:14 PM EDT
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So as you know I faked sick from work and took my PIG PC out in the woods for a few weeks of Fun.
My unit conducted an EBCR LFX (Enter a building, Clear room), and a Squad LFX where we set up a base of fire with our 240B's, set up a Local support (M249's and M203's) and assaulted a building complex. This last one required quite a bit of movement, and unfortunately IMT-ing. We also conducted the other types of training that you would expect from a Light Infantry unit including several ruck marches and forced marches. 
The Pirate Eye patch is crucial to scare the enemy. I had a large ESAPI plate once again, I don't know why the Army always gives me a Large plate but they do. As you can see the PIG sits very high up, when I first tried on the PIG, I felt unprotected. Then I realized how dumb I was being because I was wearing MY plate. I did have to Adjust the C-bun after inserting the plates, but only slightly..... more to follow on that. 
Behind my PIG is my buddies IOTV in size medium, considering that it has plates a whole size smaller, the IOTV is shockingly bigger when we laid the two next to each other. 
The Previous three shots are just prior to one of my ruck marches. I wore the USGI Molle Ruck (I know, but my Kifaur isn't ACU and our new Col is big on ACU). One truly phenomenal benefit to the PIG PC is it's perfect ability to allow the use of the Kidney belt the way it was intended. You can see how high up I was able to wear my ruck. Normally when wearing body armor a ruck march is an exercise in pain. Not the case..... I'm not saying I loved every minute of it, just that I was relatively comfortable given a full ruck, plates, and the usual "suck" of road marching. I was wearing a CamelBak ArmorBak and I had to have my buddy help my ruck lay flat on it, after that it was relatively smooth sailing. This was probably the most comfortable I have been on a road march since 2003 when I was given my first set of plates. The high Ride of the PIG PC really helped with distributing the weight to my hips via the Rucks Kidney belt. That scope is the New LWTWS (Light Weight thermal Weapon Sight / PAS 13). It is the new Double A model and the weight was barely noticeable from the weight of my Eotech. A vast improvement over the weight, poor clarity, and the the awkward battery of it's older brother. 
You can see how closely cut the PIG is, allowing pretty complete freedom of Movement (you are still wearing armor  after all). After I put the plates in I had to play around with the C-bun. I didn't discover my "sweet spot" for adjusting it until I was 2 miles into a ruck march. This caused for some "love handle chaffing" from the Malice Clips on my Esstac UTE Pouches. I thought about mounting the malice clips upside down but eventually figured out where I needed the C-bun tightened to prevent chaffing and C-bun sag.
Those are our new issue tents in the background.... actually I have had it for over a year but was never forced to use it so it sat in my locker. Why carry another heavy piece of kit when a Bivy works pretty well? (Except in downpours and you just make a poncho hooch for that). By the way the Tents are awesome when you aren't tactical. 
Who wants to take all their pouches off to adjust the C-bun? Not me, I'm lazy. Just yank the C-bun over enough to get your grubby hand in the pass through area. It's a tough squeeze, but If you remove 1-2 pouches on the rear of the opposite side you have enough play (without stretching anything) to make all the adjustments you need. I did this several times until I found my personal sweet spot for support and comfort. 
There is no spoon. Hey man, you never know when you'll get a chance to eat. This pic is taken after about 12 days straight in the Armor. The only Adjustment I made after returning home was removing the ITW Fastmag on the right side. I'm a rightie and having three Fastmags in a row beat up my trigger hand. I have two Esstac shingles there (with the KyWi), and on the left (primary Draw) are my two Fastmags. I carry 8 mags in total plus one on the Gun. My full loadout is : (From rear left all the way around) Mini EOD UTE Pouch (- Small Cleaning Kit, Gerber, BFA, Oil, NVG's), 2 mags, MBITR, Extra MBITR Batt, 6 Mags, Cut Down VS-17 Panel and Signal Mirror (kangaroo pouch), Esstac Small Ute Pouch (now my BFG Trauma Kit now instead), Esstac Nalgene Pouch and Finally the CamelBak Armorbak. I know the MBITR seems like a strange spot, but this allows me to adjust freqs, change Krypto, and extend and fold my Antennae without a buddy. When I keep it further back the Antenna gets in my way (either stuck under my Arm, caught in the sling, or messes with my Ruck). A partial Pic of my Squad in the Shoothouse. I am no longer wearing my gay pirate eye patch, but "Hey, it adds Character!!". I'm second from the left all comfy in my PIG PC. The other guys are either wearing Medium or Large OTV's. 
All said and done I hate the PIG PC...... Just kidding, it's amazing. Honestly its the MOST versatile and comfortable PC I have ever worn. Just about every member of my unit tried it on and loved it. It's comfortable, compact, allows freedom of movement, let me use my kidding belt when Rucking, The padded shoulders are a definite plus. Not to mention that the PIG PC looks badass and with me having really, really ridiculously good looking hair Al Qaeda just doesn't stand a chance.
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OK here's my answers to a few questions I have been getting:
1 - No I did not fix my hair for the pics. I spent two weeks in the Field, took one shower, and wore two uniforms throughout. My hair just looks the same no matter what. This sucked in the 90's when my haircut wasn't popluar but I just kept telling myself...... "Hang in there Sean, one day the World will understand." I could never have a cool flat-top like Kid from Kid 'n Play, a shaggy mop like the Jonas' Brothers, or anything even close to Zack Morris from Saved by the Bell, or Parker Lewis can't Lose, but finally found my niche in the "Tactical Casual" look. 2 - links for my rig - Here goes: PIG Plate Carrier CamelBak ArmorBak Hydro Pack Left Side: HSGI Mini EOD Molle Pouch Emdom PM4 (Pmag) Double Eagle MBITR Molle Pouch Chest: ITW Fastmag Esstac Single Wedge Shingle Esstac KyWi Right Side: Emdom AK/M4 Double Mag Pouch This pouch works well for Smoke grenades, and the horrible times you get stuck with two radios, you can Cram an MBITR or EF Johnson in it. BFG Trauma Kit Now Esstac Nalgene Pouch Trust me I wouldn't carry this much if I didn't need to. Not everything was set up this way, you can see my rig evolve throughout the pics. A new rig always takes a break in period and the PIG PC is no different. I mounted things that I thought would work, in places I thought I could reach...... you get the Idea. This layout is the furthest evolution so far. 3 - Yes the Pirate eye patch has kicked Badgering at my unit into High gear. All I have to say is that jealousy is a wasted emotion..... If we all got issued a Pirate Eye patch then it wouldn't be as cool.
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Actually my eye was perfectly fine. I just thought it looked sweet!!!
Yeah my MBITR antenna, but I prefer to have it on the front so I can change freqs and such without having a buddy change it or taking off my kit. SOS |
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I like the layout - will consider buying a PIG PC in ACU, and set it up similarly. That is if BTT i get assigned to a unit, we will still be using ACUs and stuff.
I still have my last ACU set, which i kept, so i will be able to attent my first reserve drill back in full uniform. 
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Armytimes 9 month PIG PC review.
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Awesome, that's a darn good review.  A couple of the things that they mentioned, I really noticed too, such as the padded straps and comfort, and the fact that the whole rig just feels bombproof. Really tough and durable. |
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My PIG PC now - not much changed other than the camo color and some slight changes in where items are kept. My rig is always evolving.
my UCP / ACU rig still sees quite a bit of use too. 
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Tracked these down for a thread in the tactical gear forum - they truly belong here.
Mil-Spec Monkey PIG PC review Military Morons PIG PC review ITS Tactical Review - by Centcom_Survivor SOS |
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
My PIG PC now - not much changed other than the camo color and some slight changes in where items are kept. My rig is always evolving. SOS since you changed it up, can you tell us what pouches and gear is on your pc and why you went with that setup for your pig pc? |
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Sure thing!!
Here's my KIT: PIG Plate Carrier PIG Hydration Carrier (HydroPIG) Source WXP 2L I use the G-hook Double D-ring shoulder attachment on my strong side, and the G-hook side release buckle on my weak side. Right Side: BFG Trauma Kit Now - I moved it closer to my chest when I had to use my left arm to get my medkit during training and had some difficulty. This spot makes it more accessible to both arms. BFG Tourniquet NOW strap Emdom AK/M4 Double Mag Pouch - a great multi use magazine pouch - 2 M4 Mags, a surefire Hi-cap mag, smoke, extra MBITR or BF Johnson radio, etc. TT Canteen Utility Pouch Chest: Esstac Single M4 wedge with KYWI X2 ITW Fastmag X2 Left Side: Either the ATS Double/ Single Shingle or the usual Eagle MBITR pouch depending on my loadout HSGI Mini EOD pouch and another TT Canteen Utility Pouch The HSGI Mini EOD pouch carries my NVG's and various map pens, protractor, ear pro, and a few other odds and ends. One TT canteen utility pouches holds my small cleaning kit, strobe, batteries, oil/ lube, and a cut down VS-17 panel. The other one either holds pogey bait / gee-dunk or an extra Nalgene Bottle. Sometimes I ditch the two TT Canteen pouches depending on what's going on. I have the Grimlok's attached to my chest to hold the sternum strap down on ruck marches to prevent that ultra annoying arm pinch. I also have my rape whistle (it's the only things my guys can hear sometimes over the M2's and M240's) and a small blue LED flashlight (helps check wounds and bleeding). Let me know if I forgot to mention anything - I'll update as needed. SOS |
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More PIG PC shots. This time it is really required to do what it was made to do.
Time for a Little COIN at the youngest levels. 
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Looks good. I've got one of these on the way to me.
Two questions: Are you using the ESAPI plates that come with the IOTV? Are you using soft armor behind them? |
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Yes, standard ESAPI's fit just fine.
I'm using the PIG soft armor backers, and i have soft armor in the sides. I don't wear side plates because they annoy me. SOS |
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Yes, standard ESAPI's fit just fine. I'm using the PIG soft armor backers, and i have soft armor in the sides. I don't wear side plates because they annoy me. SOS Roger |
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My most current set-up. Not much has changed. I think I have finally figured out my kit, until the Army gives me some other piece of gear to carry.
Front: 
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Left side (weak side): 
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our PIG FDT-A gloves, but I only have the one pair. I hope they last until our next shipment comes in around October. They have been going strong since last fall.
My seconds choice for light gloves is the regular Mechanix gloves. I have heard great things about the OR ironhide gloves but haven't played around with them yet. Looking forward to the pics Leprechaun-33, it'll be great to revive the PIG user thread!!! I love seeing how other people set their gear up. SOS |
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Originally Posted By SethP:
Looks like you're running HSGI Taco Singles on the front now Correct. I changed from the ESSTAC KyWi's because I also carry an M14 from time to time. SOS |
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Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
I've said it before and I'll say it again
In a survival situation i'd want Les Stround
For a bar fight against zombie pirates on crystal meth? I'd want Bear Grylls
I've said it before and I'll say it again
In a survival situation i'd want Les Stround
For a bar fight against zombie pirates on crystal meth? I'd want Bear Grylls
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Nice!! I was pretty excited to finally read about their decision. SOS This. It lets me keep all the MC gear I already have, and I can finally get a MC Pig. I already have one in Coyote Brown which I love, but you know how that "uniformity" thing is. How do you have your BFG trauma kit set up? |
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
I've said it before and I'll say it again
In a survival situation i'd want Les Stround
For a bar fight against zombie pirates on crystal meth? I'd want Bear Grylls
I've said it before and I'll say it again
In a survival situation i'd want Les Stround
For a bar fight against zombie pirates on crystal meth? I'd want Bear Grylls
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Originally Posted By cableguy221:
This. It lets me keep all the MC gear I already have, and I can finally get a MC Pig. I already have one in Coyote Brown which I love, but you know how that "uniformity" thing is. How do you have your BFG trauma kit set up? Originally Posted By cableguy221:
Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
Nice!! I was pretty excited to finally read about their decision. SOS This. It lets me keep all the MC gear I already have, and I can finally get a MC Pig. I already have one in Coyote Brown which I love, but you know how that "uniformity" thing is. How do you have your BFG trauma kit set up? Sorry dont mean to hi-jack but When and where can I find a link on this. I have limited search function/ wifi where I am at the moment? Thanks cp |
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The no longer are going with Multicam, that discussion was from a while ago. The US Army is transitioning to Scorpion / Scorpion W2. we are SOL eventually, but for the time being I believe you can wear mixed Scorpion and Multicam OCIE. Your unit commander should be able to authorize certain uniforms.
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Originally Posted By SKD_Tactical:
The no longer are going with Multicam, that discussion was from a while ago. The US Army is transitioning to Scorpion / Scorpion W2. we are SOL eventually, but for the time being I believe you can wear mixed Scorpion and Multicam OCIE. Your unit commander should be able to authorize certain uniforms. SOS I'm thinking we will be able to do that for the next decade. I still see Multicam gear with ACU uniforms and vice versa here at Bragg. Plus there is always a health measure of coyote brown and ranger green. Scorpion and Multicam look enough alike. |
Originally Posted By Dtrain323i:
I've said it before and I'll say it again
In a survival situation i'd want Les Stround
For a bar fight against zombie pirates on crystal meth? I'd want Bear Grylls
I've said it before and I'll say it again
In a survival situation i'd want Les Stround
For a bar fight against zombie pirates on crystal meth? I'd want Bear Grylls
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