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Posted: 2/1/2023 5:40:02 PM EDT
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Hey just looking for some clarification on the matter since it seams to not really be spelled out for some of us simple minded folk, If we (wife and I) have a trust and both are the only Responsible Persons on the trust, and have, - an account with Silencer Shop - Finger Print cards (EFT type) on file with Silencer Shop - Current Photos on Silencer Shop - No Changes with Trust with in last 24 Months since last approval (last stamp approval was July of 2022) - 3 ARs that are in possession (Certified assignment to inventory (notarized) prior to Final Rule being published 2021R-08F in Federal Register) & SBA3 Pistol Braces ruling them as to be SBRs all with 12" or shorter barrels Can we use the Beta Form1 eforms within Silencer Shop's portal to apply for the stamps and register them as long as descriptions are listed (they are Aero and Spikes in 300, 5.56, and 308) using the information and above listed items already is the system at Silencer Shop (ATF eForms says you can submit finger prints for Form1 applications via electric "EFT" type or 2 Papper cards per application and mail with cover letter under the sign in portal for the new ruling) OR Do we need to get 6 sets of finger print cards for each of us (3 applications) and file ourselves using the ATFs eForm Site? We would Defiantly rather spend $50 each and register using Silencer Shop instead of getting that many Finger Print Cards from local LEO office and mailing them knowing they could get lost and start all over cause of the 10 day time frame. I am sure there is at least one other person wondering the same thing. An absolute answer from Silencer Shop would be great, hate to spend $150 just to find out I have to do it the manual way cause the app isn't working with the new brace Ruling 2021R-08F. Thanks  |
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Originally Posted By thehun06: I do not believe SS has opened their eform1 BETA to be compatible with the tax-exempt form yet...I know they said they are working on it... Not sure, from what I can tell it is not a different form 1 than the ATF is useing just a different location to submit the forms standard eForm site login (eforms.atf.gov/login;referrer=%2Fhome) Rule 2021R-08F eForm login (eforms-form1.atf.gov/login) I seen that they said it didn't work the other day with the new ruling, but today said they were just working on the different options for description since some were not available in the drop down menus. In our case all the drop down options that are available do work for us. Our lowers are all factory made and finished and standard cal. that are listed. My understanding is it doesn't work if you have something else other than what is offered in the drop down menus is all. But that is why i was looking for clarification. We have less than 4 months and hate being one of those that doesn't file until the last 30 days, when its a mad rush and things get backlogged. We would like to get them prior to next year if at all possible. |
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Howdy! Our 1.0 eForm 1 system should be online soon, and that system will allow for filing under the forbearance as well as for submitting models and calibers not already active in the ATF eForms drop downs. - Chase |
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*UPDATE* So just wanted to update on this, Yes Silencer Shops Beta Form 1 eforms app is up and running with the tax exempt for those with pistol braces. However this was not the case at the time of the original post since the BATFE is requiring a different login page for the Tax Exempt Form 1s that pistol braces. NOTE - This is my opinion only (just like a__ holes, everyone has one lol) Although just prior to it being up and running we (wife and I) put in for our EFT Files so we would have them so we could apply our selves and save a few bucks and learn a little more about the ins and outs. We had 5 that that qualified for the our trust and already had pistol braces on them PRIOR to the final ruling being published. So in our case it was beneficial to apply our selves and pay someone to convert our finger print cards (digitally scanned) back to EFT files for us. At $100 each, in the long run this can save a few bucks IF you use them enough AND they don't change the standard that files have to be in (Don't recall what the number was of the standard) to be excepted however our were accepted with no issues. For $50 that Silencer Shop charges for doing the paperwork, unless your doing a few of them or plan on moving away from someone else handling the paperwork end of it, I personally would recommend using them to handle it for you. EFT files? - Yes you can get them, we paid $100 each + Tax and provided the Finger Print Cards that were done by a scan not ink. Anyhow how I just wanted to put my 2 cents worth out there for anyone who was looking for a few answers. Please be smart and don't post things that really don't need to be posted to get a few more "Likes" for the moment, you may end not being "Liked" at all in the end. |