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8/5/2008 12:35:11 PM EDT
[#1]
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Originally Posted By Solidius:
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Originally Posted By couch_potato:
Magpul has competition? Where is it?


FNH, I would think is their primary intellectual competitor(followed by maybe HK).  After Magpul coming up with the ratcheting quick change barrel system(especially if the POI shift is sub MOA to MOA), they made FNH's engineers look like inside the box thinkers if nothing else.  Just watch the video on youtube vid on SCAR barrel change (don't loose the bit to your barrel change tool). To FNH's credit it is better than changing an AR barrel hing
As far as Magpul's competition goes, given some of the attitudes I've seen in the gun industry (I won't name any names, but the biggest offender's name starts with "H" und "K"), the competition probably thought it was cute that the little magazine pully thingy company made their own gun and didn't expect the response it received or even expect it to go into production.

And then pretty much got the same effect as being blindsided and smacked in the face with a crowbar.

Lots of companies seem to be stuck in the "We can make an AR too!" mindset when it comes to rifles and "We can make a 1911 too!" mindset when it comes to pistols.
8/5/2008 3:13:02 PM EDT
[#2]





Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/5/2008 3:36:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TehLlama42][Edited] [#3]
Yay, I haven't seen these yet!

The .308 in back looks fantastic, I can't wait to see one with a PRS stock (similar to Shot08 images) but all black.


How many of the development ACR/Masada platforms do you guys have?  I'm just curious if they're T&E, or still in incremental product improvment mode.
8/5/2008 3:57:03 PM EDT
[#4]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
www.magpul.com/pics/acr1.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr2.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr3.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr4.jpg



Drake. You know you're my hero, right?
8/5/2008 4:02:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joe-bananas][Edited] [#5]
Now THAT'S some hot, delicious, salivatin' goodness right there -- I TELL YOU right now!


Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Build a man a fire and you'll warm him for the night; set a man on fire and he'll burn for the rest of his life.
8/5/2008 5:36:43 PM EDT
[#6]

Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
www.magpul.com/pics/acr1.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr2.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr3.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr4.jpg



Drake. You know you're my hero, right?


I'm just a guy.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/5/2008 8:32:30 PM EDT
[#7]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
www.magpul.com/pics/acr1.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr2.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr3.jpg
www.magpul.com/pics/acr4.jpg



If awesome was an object it would be an ACR
8/5/2008 8:58:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Holy smokes I almost missed this:
8/5/2008 10:50:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Damn you DrDrake!!!  Damn  You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!By the way, are you guys hiring?....Need an intern, maybe?...
8/5/2008 11:58:52 PM EDT
[#10]

Originally Posted By Solidius:
Holy smokes I almost missed this:
farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/2736475079_ba40b6e7e4.jpg


DrDrake

Is that like a FAL or will it be left or right eject like a Beretta Carbine?

Or does this fall under the "As for now we are not releasing any information........." policy?
8/6/2008 12:27:53 AM EDT
[#11]
Ooo la la, that 308 is teh hotness!
8/6/2008 10:34:04 AM EDT
[#12]

Originally Posted By vaquero357x2:

Originally Posted By Solidius:
Holy smokes I almost missed this:
farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/2736475079_ba40b6e7e4.jpg


DrDrake

Is that like a FAL or will it be left or right eject like a Beretta Carbine?

Or does this fall under the "As for now we are not releasing any information........." policy?


Sorry guys, no additional info on the Massoud for now.  I don't mean to tease y'all, just want you to know wer're still hard at work here.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/6/2008 10:49:02 AM EDT
[#13]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By vaquero357x2:

Originally Posted By Solidius:
Holy smokes I almost missed this:
farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/2736475079_ba40b6e7e4.jpg


DrDrake

Is that like a FAL or will it be left or right eject like a Beretta Carbine?

Or does this fall under the "As for now we are not releasing any information........." policy?


Sorry guys, no additional info on the Massoud for now.  I don't mean to tease y'all, just want you to know wer're still hard at work here.


Thanks for the pics. We'll take what we can get.
8/6/2008 1:11:32 PM EDT
[#14]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Sorry guys, no additional info on the Massoud for now.  I don't mean to tease y'all, just want you to know wer're still hard at work here.


So exactly how much do you pay the boss to go out and play with those cool toys?

I see a revenue-producing opportunity for you. $5 to cap off a couple rounds? Could help out with gas money.

Just sayin'
Build a man a fire and you'll warm him for the night; set a man on fire and he'll burn for the rest of his life.
8/6/2008 4:18:53 PM EDT
[#15]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Sorry guys, no additional info on the Massoud for now.  I don't mean to tease y'all, just want you to know wer're still hard at work here.


I am still awaiting the ACR I am not even sure if I could bring myself to EVEN dream about the possibility of ever owning the Massound!
It looks great. Thanks for posting.
Luck favors the prepared.

"This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it." - Elmer Davis
8/6/2008 4:29:02 PM EDT
[#16]

Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Sorry guys, no additional info on the Massoud for now.  I don't mean to tease y'all, just want you to know wer're still hard at work here.


I am still awaiting the ACR I am not even sure if I could bring myself to EVEN dream about the possibility of ever owning the Massound!
It looks great. Thanks for posting.


+1!
8/7/2008 12:17:18 AM EDT
[#17]
Thank you DrDrake!  Those pics made a good day even better! Oh man, those rifles are so frigging pretty!
8/7/2008 2:36:00 AM EDT
[#18]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
www.magpul.com/pics/acr3.jpg


If this is hard at work can I have a part time job.
8/7/2008 8:16:35 AM EDT
[#19]
Drake-

I noticed the mag in the cased ACR/Massoud pic has some Sharpie modifications to show rounds remaining.  Have thought about this too but I'm just too lazy.    Any plans on changing the molds to do this?  
Rounds reloaded, waiting on an ACR as of May 08: 2,120. 1Qtr 09? The 1050 is gonna be busier yet and that rifle better be ready for it!
8/7/2008 9:12:21 AM EDT
[#20]

Originally Posted By m118sb:
Drake-

I noticed the mag in the cased ACR/Massoud pic has some Sharpie modifications to show rounds remaining.  Have thought about this too but I'm just too lazy.    Any plans on changing the molds to do this?  


Good idea...that may or may not be in the works. [insert Mapul cut-n-paste verbiage]
Luck favors the prepared.

"This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it." - Elmer Davis
8/7/2008 11:25:15 AM EDT
[#21]

Originally Posted By m118sb:
Drake-

I noticed the mag in the cased ACR/Massoud pic has some Sharpie modifications to show rounds remaining.  Have thought about this too but I'm just too lazy.    Any plans on changing the molds to do this?  


I tried it to see if it helped guage a round count.  Not sure if it's the way my brain works or not but it did not help.  I know approx. how may rounds are in there no sweat w/o the markings.  That said......

As for now we are not releasing any information on products that may or may not be in the works. We're always looking for new ways to improve on existing products and explore the boundaries of new ideas.  Thanks.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/7/2008 11:27:44 AM EDT
[#22]

Originally Posted By StaffyBull:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
www.magpul.com/pics/acr3.jpg


If this is hard at work can I have a part time job.


Actually this was on a Sat., the day before I was flying out of town for a week long trip.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/8/2008 11:53:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DrDrake][Edited] [#23]
I know there will be more Q's to come.  We're not going into the Massoud details at this time.  We want you guys to know that things are moving fantasticlly here.







Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/8/2008 12:02:36 PM EDT
[#24]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
I know there will be more Q's to come.  We're not going into the Massoud details at this time.  We want you guys to know that things are moving fantasticlly here.

www.magpul.com/pics/massoud7.jpg


www.magpul.com/pics/massoud8.jpg


www.magpul.com/pics/massoud9.jpg



WANT!
Proud Member of "Ranstad's Militia," The Fantastic Bastards
8/8/2008 12:08:58 PM EDT
[#25]
I love those photos of the Massoud and greatly, greatly look forward to informed discussions the new charging handle.

By any chance can you tell me the bbl length on the pics of the ACR with the stock folded on this page?  There's so much we only have to speculate on due to a lack of information on bbl lengths.

Thanks for more pics!
8/8/2008 12:46:19 PM EDT
[#26]

Originally Posted By Reverend_Deadboy:
I love those photos of the Massoud and greatly, greatly look forward to informed discussions the new charging handle.

By any chance can you tell me the bbl length on the pics of the ACR with the stock folded on this page?  There's so much we only have to speculate on due to a lack of information on bbl lengths.

Thanks for more pics!


Blk ACR on top of page is 10.5

FDE ACR in case and with can 16"

FDE Massoud in case and with pallets 16"
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/8/2008 12:49:27 PM EDT
[#27]
How does it feel to be able to make so many grown men happy with just a few innocent JPEGs?


Originally Posted By DrDrake:







Build a man a fire and you'll warm him for the night; set a man on fire and he'll burn for the rest of his life.
8/8/2008 1:00:16 PM EDT
[#28]
Thanks Doc!  Eagerly awaiting more info and the coolness of the guns themselves!
8/8/2008 1:52:29 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm thinking there's a moose or two just waiting to be on the receiving end of a Massoud cradled in my hands.

Mmmm. Moose meat.

Mmmm. Massoud.
Build a man a fire and you'll warm him for the night; set a man on fire and he'll burn for the rest of his life.
8/8/2008 4:20:01 PM EDT
[#30]
One of the cool things about the Massoud is that the rings weigh ~2 oz. rather than five times that much for an SPR-E.
“Every year of peace is in reality either a postwar year or a prewar year and it is seldom easy and often impossible to distinguish between them.”
- John W. Vessey Jr. (General, USA, Ret.)
8/8/2008 4:48:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fsy1230][Edited] [#31]
*Deleted*
8/15/2008 12:18:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Afterwork_Ninja][Edited] [#32]
New videos are up on Youtube. Thanks guys.

"Made in Boulder not Belgium"
8/15/2008 7:26:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Solidius][Edited] [#33]
F'n Awsome,   Magpul team thanks for the media.

8/15/2008 1:01:04 PM EDT
[#34]

Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
New videos are up on Youtube. Thanks guys.

"Made in Boulder not Belgium"


Nice, didn't know those we up yet.  
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/15/2008 1:40:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/15/2008 2:01:56 PM EDT
[#36]
Does the stock on the ACR adjust high enough to provide a good cheekweld on the red dot mounted on top of the acog?

8/15/2008 2:11:04 PM EDT
[#37]
I really wish it had a B2 sized backstrap on both the ACR and Massoud.
8/15/2008 5:04:22 PM EDT
[#38]

Originally Posted By DevL:
I really wish it had a B2 sized backstrap on both the ACR and Massoud.


The grip on the ACR and the Massoud are both similar to the B2 strap.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/15/2008 5:11:05 PM EDT
[#39]

Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
Does the stock on the ACR adjust high enough to provide a good cheekweld on the red dot mounted on top of the acog?



Well, not really.  The .5 inch lift on the cheek piece is good to go on high mounted optics.  

My thought is that I want the good cheek weld when looking through the ACOG glass and have my heads up on the red dot.  JMO.  
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/16/2008 1:25:43 AM EDT
[#40]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?
8/16/2008 1:54:04 PM EDT
[#41]

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?


Hippies.
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/16/2008 2:18:03 PM EDT
[#42]

Originally Posted By DrDrake:

Originally Posted By jakjakman:

Originally Posted By DrDrake:
Hot linked to both.

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIlW1t2mgNc

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPM1IQBHkc


Sweeeeeet!

Btw, what's the punchline on your 'Guns Kill' tshirt?


Hippies.


 

I want that more than a Masada! Where'd you get it?

BTW, what mags does the Massoud take?
8/16/2008 6:35:37 PM EDT
[#43]
I hope MP goes back to the forward charging handles for the 7.62, to keep parts and consistency w/the 5.56 rifle.

My $0.02


0351
8/17/2008 8:33:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Solidius][Edited] [#44]

Originally Posted By 0351:
I hope MP goes back to the forward charging handles for the 7.62, to keep parts and consistency w/the 5.56 rifle.

My $0.02


0351


If they made a change it was for a good reason, and  the distance between the bolt carrier and the forward charging handle position MAY be different on the ACR and the 7.62?  I don't know if there will be a lot of parts commonality between the two.
8/17/2008 12:31:38 PM EDT
[#45]

Originally Posted By Solidius:

Originally Posted By 0351:
I hope MP goes back to the forward charging handles for the 7.62, to keep parts and consistency w/the 5.56 rifle.

My $0.02


0351


If they made a change it was for a good reason, and  the distance between the bolt carrier and the forward charging handle position MAY be different on the ACR and the 7.62?  I don't know if there will be a lot of parts commonality between the two.




More probably due to the optics.  I still hope they go back to the forward charging handle.

0351
8/17/2008 3:13:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Freaking Awesome.
8/17/2008 7:49:21 PM EDT
[#47]



Originally Posted By 0351:
I hope MP goes back to the forward charging handles for the 7.62, to keep parts and consistency w/the 5.56 rifle.

My $0.02


0351


Remember that parts compatability is not always the best path to take when building a rifle.  Others have tried and has resulted in constant redesign during the prototype process.  
Superior gear will never make up for lack of training and attitude.

My tone is a direct reflection of your attitude.

If I were a Transformer I'd be Omega Beard Supreme.
8/18/2008 2:22:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Afterwork_Ninja][Edited] [#48]

Originally Posted By Afterwork_Ninja:
New videos are up on Youtube. Thanks guys.

"Made in Boulder not Belgium"


I found this within an hour of being posted and now I bring you news, pics, and video of a hands on report of the Massoud.


All bow down in the presence of my search fu.

Props to the guys at Magpul and Sniper's Hide.

Sniper's Hide Massoud Hands On Video

Sniper's Hide Massoud Thread













8/18/2008 2:31:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Afterwork_Ninja][Edited] [#49]
After seeing this thing sit on the sandbags I am starting to realize why they moved the location of the charging handle.

Man that thing is sexy!!!
8/20/2008 5:00:03 PM EDT
[#50]

Photo credit Ironridgeguns.com

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