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The Vector Paragon 4x and Vortex Spitfire 5x both have built in reflex sight mounts which is more attractive than the Piggyback RDS mount. Are there any plans on an equivalent in the 3x and 5x models? The one with the most forgiving eyebox wins
Is the Specter DR still under patent? Something similar is what I'd ultimately like to see without selling a kidney... |
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Originally Posted By JTX23: After trying out the piggy back mount for the 5x I have to say I would like to see a new body for the 5x that integrates a mount for the piggy back option. I really appreciate how well PA took customers' input and turned around a solution but unfortunately I don't think there is a way to get enough material or even going with 7075 with additional material would make this robust enough. I love the 5x but for me to purchase more I need a durable solution for the piggy back that will hold zero. PA is really hitting it out of the park with their optics and I hope they are the company to fill this void in the marketplace. View Quote So I thought about this. Why not have a purchasable mount insert that has basically a bottom half of a scope ring that extends around the front of the optic so that is just clears the power knob and use a mating top half of the ring that has an integrated MOS plate? Make the rings fat like a body positivity movement ad. Use 7075. Test that and see how well it holds up. Has to work a lot better than the current mount. Save the integrated mount for the next gen and give customers a really good solution for this gen. I am a mailbox mount away from the perfect set up! |
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Originally Posted By Burncycle: The Vector Paragon 4x and Vortex Spitfire 5x both have built in reflex sight mounts which is more attractive than the Piggyback RDS mount. Are there any plans on an equivalent in the 3x and 5x models? The one with the most forgiving eyebox wins Is the Specter DR still under patent? Something similar is what I'd ultimately like to see without selling a kidney... View Quote Downside to that design is you still need to mount a 1x on top for NV and Id rather have the heads up orientation in a lot of 1x solutions so there is a lot of money and weight going to something I wouldn't want. 4 or 5x with a really good mailbox mount solution is my goldilocks. |
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I don’t want to beat a dead horse and keep asking for the same thing but…..
A 2x microprism in the 3x body, 4-5” of eye relief, 18mm + exit pupil and 30 feet at 100 yards fov. An improved TA47 if you will. The TA47 has the best balance of eye box, fov and the body disappearing so you’re left with your natural fov and a blur of an optic and super easy to pick up from 5 yards to 250 yards you get into the optic. It’s kinda hard to explain until you get behind the TA47 do some run n gun from point blank to 300 yards. It’s the easy button of an optic. |
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Originally Posted By Caeser2001: I don’t want to beat a dead horse and keep asking for the same thing but….. A 2x microprism in the 3x body, 4-5” of eye relief, 18mm + exit pupil and 30 feet at 100 yards fov. An improved TA47 if you will. The TA47 has the best balance of eye box, fov and the body disappearing so you’re left with your natural fov and a blur of an optic and super easy to pick up from 5 yards to 250 yards you get into the optic. It’s kinda hard to explain until you get behind the TA47 do some run n gun from point blank to 300 yards. It’s the easy button of an optic. View Quote Thank you very much for your input! it will be forwarded to team of engineers! Maybe they already cooking something in the vault room! |
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@PrimaryArms do you have any hints for next year?
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Primary Arms the decibel meter up to 150 decibels for metering suppressed guns. Doesn't need to be certified for commercial/ lab use for fun on the range.
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If you are putting a lot of effort into arguing with me, you are probably really just wasting your time, sorry.
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: We are always working on awesome new products. We can't wait to show what's in store for SHOT 2024! Let's just say something "bright" is coming! Stay tuned!! View Quote I interpret that to mean a 1&4 “elcan ish” optic on the gold line with a rmr cut for direct mount and a super compact 2.5-20 plx optic. |
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Originally Posted By SoVa: I interpret that to mean a 1&4 “elcan ish” optic on the gold line with a rmr cut for direct mount and a super compact 2.5-20 plx optic. View Quote There was a discussion about their weapon lights awhile back. If it is that and they use scout mounts and Surefire switches they’d be a huge hit if they can keep it under $150. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: There was a discussion about their weapon lights awhile back. If it is that and they use scout mounts and Surefire switches they’d be a huge hit if they can keep it under $150. View Quote I wouldn’t not like that but I’m not really chomping at the bit for it either. I would probably buy some if the parameters were what you mentioned, especially if there is a version that’s high candela, big time throw. |
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Originally Posted By SoVa: I wouldn’t not like that but I’m not really chomping at the bit for it either. I would probably buy some if the parameters were what you mentioned, especially if there is a version that’s high candela, big time throw. View Quote Agree and would also much rather have an Elcan variable prism type of offering so I hope you’re right. |
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What if it’s an IR laser with VCSEL illuminator? A guy can dream.
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: Keep up the good guess guys! you guys might be onto something! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: Originally Posted By SoVa: I interpret that to mean a 1&4 “elcan ish” optic on the gold line with a rmr cut for direct mount and a super compact 2.5-20 plx optic. Keep up the good guess guys! you guys might be onto something! Ok, he/she said “bright”. I’m changing my guess to the nova reticle in one or more prism optics. If that’s possible. |
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Please be a GLx 4x with a 12 o’clock RDS mount. I’ve been reasonably good this year..!
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Originally Posted By Just10mm: Please be a GLx 4x with a 12 o’clock RDS mount. I’ve been reasonably good this year..! View Quote I’m genuinely surprised this hasn’t been done already. With the improvement opportunities in glass quality and mount durability left by the 5X MP, I’m REALLY hoping this is a sooner rather than later. |
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I don’t know if you guys already have something like this, but it would be nice to see a company making lighter weight options. Something with good glass, but not as many…features?…so to speak. I think would not only help with weight, but also cost.
A LPVO and a mid range-ish optic in this line would be really attractive to me. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I’m genuinely surprised this hasn’t been done already. With the improvement opportunities in glass quality and mount durability left by the 5X MP, I’m REALLY hoping this is a sooner rather than later. View Quote Me too, it’s an easy button slam dunk for them. A near direct competitor for the ACOG. Bonus points for PA for including a simplified Aurora reticle with a dot instead of the chevron… |
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Originally Posted By TobyLazur: I don’t know if you guys already have something like this, but it would be nice to see a company making lighter weight options. Something with good glass, but not as many…features?…so to speak. I think would not only help with weight, but also cost. A LPVO and a mid range-ish optic in this line would be really attractive to me. View Quote Our PLxC 1-8x24 FFP Rifle Scope is one of the lightest LPVO in the market at 16.95 oz. in length of 9.28 in. but also our high end optic. For mid range optic we would recommend is our SLx 1-6x24mm SFP Rifle Scope Gen IV - Illuminated ACSS Nova Fiber Wire Reticle - at 17.9 oz. in length of 10.4 in. We will continue to explore different ideas and bring the innovation to the market! Thank you for your input! |
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I am not sure if something like this exists already but I would like to 12 o'clock mount the 1x micro prism to a mpvo or lpvo. Micro prism on top of my glx 2.5-10 would be fun.
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Made in America complete line. Everything sourced and made here in the states, with the possible exception of glass made in Japan if it adds too much cost to be made here.
1st model out of that line. LPVO, / 1-6 power, FFP, simple etched BDC reticle with chevron aiming point, daylight bright, off settings between each power setting, metal adjustment internals for tactile and audible clicks. 30-33mm tube. Price should be around $600 give or take $100 |
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Any chance for some different reticle option for the 3X Prisms? I’d love something like a “doughnut of death” with bullet drop tree? I like the chevron, but I’m more of dot guy.
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Stumbling on the stepstool of mediocracy...
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter: Any chance for some different reticle option for the 3X Prisms? I’d love something like a “doughnut of death” with bullet drop tree? I like the chevron, but I’m more of dot guy. View Quote We will pass on your note to our engineers! Thank you and happy holidays! |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I’m genuinely surprised this hasn’t been done already. With the improvement opportunities in glass quality and mount durability left by the 5X MP, I’m REALLY hoping this is a sooner rather than later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By Just10mm: Please be a GLx 4x with a 12 o’clock RDS mount. I’ve been reasonably good this year..! I’m genuinely surprised this hasn’t been done already. With the improvement opportunities in glass quality and mount durability left by the 5X MP, I’m REALLY hoping this is a sooner rather than later. And with a functional 12:00 rds mount (just integrate it into the body, either as a direct mount or ver low profile ring mount) rather than the clusterfuck their slx bending board mount turned out to be. |
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“The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.” Tacitus
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QD flip to side magnifier mount with adjustable mounting options (i.e. three or four screw holes so you can move the magnifier back further if you want to clear your rear sights and have better head placement). Also, range estimator on other magnifiers. |
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Please offer simple retitles! No crazy BDC or ranging stuff. Either crosshairs or just a chevron. Maybe crosshairs with an illuminated dot in the middle. I would buy multiple 1x/3x/5x prisms but hate all the goofy reticle designs. My favorite optic I own is a TA01 acog with the LAPD crosshairs. Ok that’s all. Thanks!
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Originally Posted By Josh-L: Please offer simple retitles! No crazy BDC or ranging stuff. Either crosshairs or just a chevron. Maybe crosshairs with an illuminated dot in the middle. I would buy multiple 1x/3x/5x prisms but hate all the goofy reticle designs. My favorite optic I own is a TA01 acog with the LAPD crosshairs. Ok that’s all. Thanks! View Quote A cross with a 2 moa dot in the middle would be fantastic, and just to keep your reticle engineer busy you could size the cross so it’s still good for 8.6 mph run / wind hold. The bottom of the cross could be a 400 yard hold, so it could be dead simple yet still fit in the ACSS functionality family. |
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Originally Posted By Just10mm: A cross with a 2 moa dot in the middle would be fantastic, and just to keep your reticle engineer busy you could size the cross so it’s still good for 8.6 mph run / wind hold. The bottom of the cross could be a 400 yard hold, so it could be dead simple yet still fit in the ACSS functionality family. View Quote Exactly! You can engineer the crosshairs to be usable for holds without all of the other unnecessary stuff that I bet 95% of buyers never actually use. |
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Just watched a brass facts YouTube review on a Turkish made elcan type optic. Sure Primary Arms could do wayyyy better than that!
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My curiosity was certainly peaked today with the prism teaser they released on instagram.
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Originally Posted By SoVa: My curiosity was certainly peaked today with the prism teaser they released on instagram. View Quote Same here. I'm assuming it's a prism. With that and the other teaser a few days ago it looks to be a push button adjustable prism. There's also speculation it may be adjustable magnification. We'll see. |
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Got a link? I saw them posting some Holosun AEMS stuff but didn’t see anything else.
Ope, never mind. They have a couple of instagram pages I missed. I’m guessing fiber optics through a disc like the TR25 and Tripower. The disc is knurled for adjustment too. |
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Please/ thank you, just a simple mount for the Steiner T series scopes that is a bit more rugged.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Steiner-T432-mount-problems-cracking/18-784350/ |
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If you are putting a lot of effort into arguing with me, you are probably really just wasting your time, sorry.
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Tagging on for an improved Glx prism
1) 4x-5x 2) Built in top mount for k series red dot (as low profile as possible and all the way forward on the optic) 3) 30+ft FOV 4) Nova reticle 5) Small center dot only illumination, and honestly if the illumination is gonna be weak just scrap it altogether 6) Better than ta31 eye relief 7) ~10ish oz without mount 8) Oh and keep the diopter, obviously |
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They just released another teaser. Looks like they are doing something with the PLXc.
If they are going to do a Nova reticle I will have to buy it. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2LAdNur3U8/?igsh=dng1YTFvbDBhejdj |
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Originally Posted By Yumago: They just released another teaser. Looks like they are doing something with the PLXc. If they are going to do a Nova reticle I will have to buy it. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2LAdNur3U8/?igsh=dng1YTFvbDBhejdj View Quote Oh yes..! Now do it in that sweet, sweet new tanodized color PA..! I’m sure you all have my cc on file at this point, charge it. |
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Everyone is getting into retro guns. How about retro scopes with ACSS reticles?
The two I would love to see: 1) USMC M40A1 Unertl fixed 10x (various reticles) 2) COLT (Japanese mfg.) fixed 4x with Aurora reticle. |
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Originally Posted By Castillo: DISCOVERY 2024 is live https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-new-products View Quote I was disappointed in the PLxC. I was hoping for it to maintain the FFP and Christmas tree reticle, but with fiber wire lighting. All I need is the dot to be daylight bright, and I would think it would be the perfect scope. Maybe it isn't able to be designed that way? I don't know about the engineering behind scopes. |
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Pretty please, with sugar on top, make a fixed 6 or 8 power scope with a good bdc and GLX+ glass for dedicated use with an rmr/T1.
I would buy about eight of them. The LPVO vs. prism vs. magnifier has me tired. |
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