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Posted: 1/22/2024 1:30:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Willow_Drifter]
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holy shit
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"That pistol just kept saying, let go of my ears, you don't know what you're doing." - thehellbringer
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I voted for that, the bullpup and the AK
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The grip looks like a Hipoint. So does the grip on the 45 Dagger.
Epic, but please look these designs over. I know it’s aesthetic but I’m not interested in 5.7’s and 45’s for anything but cool factor. |
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please please please please please!
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I voted 5.7 pdw and bullpup. Both would be really cool
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VUK, Thumper and the 9mm JAKL
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Emerge.
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Link appears to lead nowhere on their webstore now?
Sven Manticore Arms |
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X5.7, VUK, 308 JAKL
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X5.7
.308 JAKL And Thumper, because we need more DDs in circulation to reach the Caetano 'in common use' threshold. |
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Staunch proponent of dangerous freedom.
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I dig this ... the VUK and JAKL 308 ... but man they got to rework that grip on the 5.7 PDW ... its looks like a hi-point ...
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40rd mags….yes!
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Victory or Valhalla...either way, you win!
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I voted for X5.7 and the 308 JAKL.
The new PWS 308 is probably a nicer rifle than the JAKL 308 will be. Full ambi controls and pretty lightweight. Probably $500 to $800 more than a 308 JAKL. |
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Is it just a Rock 5.7 in a chassis? Hopefully not
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A lot of great concepts, but the X5.7 is first by a mile for me
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: The grip looks like a Hipoint. So does the grip on the 45 Dagger. Epic, but please look these designs over. I know it’s aesthetic but I’m not interested in 5.7’s and 45’s for anything but cool factor. View Quote I agree. I will say some of that is likely due to it being a prototype. I saw the Jakl proto at the first gathering and it was way more clunky than the production model ended up being. I am cautiously optimistic that this will the the same. I’m in even as it is now, if they make it a little more sleek it’ll be even better. ETA: I hope PSA or a 3rd party will make a stock for those of us that want to SBR it although I do see some advantages to leaving it a pistol (state line crossing etc). Maybe I should get two! |
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I want this thing in 5.7 but would love to see if it can be done in 9mm using your dagger parts.
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Originally Posted By DWFAN: 40rd mags….yes! View Quote I feel just as happy as you about this.. however it cant be that much of a stretch for them to just go ahead and make it a 50 round magazine so you can use one box of ammo per magazine. i mean heck we're only 10 rounds off.. comeon psa!! more ammo capacity = goodness. I love this x5.7 but she does need some tweaking in the looks dept on her.. to keep the highpoint off of her. |
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"Stand your ground. Don't Fire unless Fired upon. But if they mean to have a war, Let it begin here." - Capt. John Parker
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Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: I feel just as happy as you about this.. however it cant be that much of a stretch for them to just go ahead and make it a 50 round magazine so you can use one box of ammo per magazine. i mean heck we're only 10 rounds off.. comeon psa!! more ammo capacity = goodness. I love this x5.7 but she does need some tweaking in the looks dept on her.. to keep the highpoint off of her. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: Originally Posted By DWFAN: 40rd mags….yes! I feel just as happy as you about this.. however it cant be that much of a stretch for them to just go ahead and make it a 50 round magazine so you can use one box of ammo per magazine. i mean heck we're only 10 rounds off.. comeon psa!! more ammo capacity = goodness. I love this x5.7 but she does need some tweaking in the looks dept on her.. to keep the highpoint off of her. I’m with these guys. I’m in, but improving the looks would make this a grand slam. |
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Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: I feel just as happy as you about this.. however it cant be that much of a stretch for them to just go ahead and make it a 50 round magazine so you can use one box of ammo per magazine. i mean heck we're only 10 rounds off.. comeon psa!! more ammo capacity = goodness. I love this x5.7 but she does need some tweaking in the looks dept on her.. to keep the highpoint off of her. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GamecockOperator: Originally Posted By DWFAN: 40rd mags….yes! I feel just as happy as you about this.. however it cant be that much of a stretch for them to just go ahead and make it a 50 round magazine so you can use one box of ammo per magazine. i mean heck we're only 10 rounds off.. comeon psa!! more ammo capacity = goodness. I love this x5.7 but she does need some tweaking in the looks dept on her.. to keep the highpoint off of her. Oh, I agree that an even 50 would be perfect. I bought 5rd mag extensions for my LC Carbine to get to 25, so even if it’s only 40, I’d be thrilled. |
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Victory or Valhalla...either way, you win!
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I love the idea of the 5.7 but as the others have stated it’s just a little bit off aesthetically. I think it’s the angled grip and use of the Rock magazines is what’s doing it. Too bad we can’t get a straight grip with a proprietary straight/slightly curved magazine to match the looks of the MP7 a little more. I think that’s what’s catching my eye more than anything. Otherwise it’s an awesome piece.
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Originally Posted By treasurediver: I love the idea of the 5.7 but as the others have stated it’s just a little bit off aesthetically. I think it’s the angled grip and use of the Rock magazines is what’s doing it. Too bad we can’t get a straight grip with a proprietary straight/slightly curved magazine to match the looks of the MP7 a little more. I think that’s what’s catching my eye more than anything. Otherwise it’s an awesome piece. View Quote Heck it looks like something someone printed in the basement. |
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i was thinking about this, and as i havent held it yet, i dont know how much it weighs, but i did think that putting an ultralight rail on it would be perfect just in case.
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"Stand your ground. Don't Fire unless Fired upon. But if they mean to have a war, Let it begin here." - Capt. John Parker
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Originally Posted By treasurediver: I love the idea of the 5.7 but as the others have stated it’s just a little bit off aesthetically. I think it’s the angled grip and use of the Rock magazines is what’s doing it. Too bad we can’t get a straight grip with a proprietary straight/slightly curved magazine to match the looks of the MP7 a little more. I think that’s what’s catching my eye more than anything. Otherwise it’s an awesome piece. View Quote It looks better in the videos than the photos but the grip really stands out. It looks like a hi-point turd grip. They needs to add some different texture or geometry. |
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All it needs is a different grip angle AND texture, a few aesthetic cuts towards the front, and it is good to go.
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Hard to verify peering through the ejection port, but I really hope the x5.7 is it's own carbine as opposed to a long barrel Rock in a chassis.
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I really like the 308 JAKL, but it really annoys me that I have to buy it with a P&W that I have to throw away & replace with a different flash hider.
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Disclaimer - OP is bad at knowing things, and might catch on fire.
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9mm version, plz. AKA 9mm dagger that looks like the X5.7
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Originally Posted By Efl15: 9mm version, plz. AKA 9mm dagger that looks like the X5.7 View Quote Probably not possible with the geometry, but this basic gun in 9mm using the PSA AK-V magazines would be a neat looking gun. At least then the grip angle and mag curvature would look more appealing. |
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A little more info... sounds like Q2 2025 for release
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Is it delayed blowback like the Rock pistol, or direct blowback?
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If they work on the grip, change the safety from a trigger pad safety to a lever safety and then add MLOK, they will have a very solid gun.
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Originally Posted By CFletch: the tri-rail is removable and there is mlok under it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CFletch: Originally Posted By tranzformer: If they work on the grip, change the safety from a trigger pad safety to a lever safety and then add MLOK, they will have a very solid gun. Nice, that’s good news. Grip and safety gets fixed and then they will have something on their hands. |
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Originally Posted By Dolor: Sick. I was just about to bring that up. I think I may have heard it earlier but is it a blow back? Or something akin to the 57 pistol operating mech? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Is it an SBR? Or will I need to SBR it to do coolstuff?
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Hmmm, how much is 5.7 ammo?
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Silent Brigade 1-20-20
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost: Originally Posted By Shinji_Ikari: Is it an SBR? Or will I need to SBR it to do coolstuff? Will need a refresher since I have never had an interest. And no, I will not be sending any questions to the alphabet bois. |
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No roller delay?
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Where is the safety? How can you sell a long gun without a safety?
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Originally Posted By d16man: It is its own, not a chassis. The model at SHOT is 3d printed, not the final production model. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By Gtscotty: Hard to verify peering through the ejection port, but I really hope the x5.7 is it's own carbine as opposed to a long barrel Rock in a chassis. It is its own, not a chassis. The model at SHOT is 3d printed, not the final production model. |
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It's not much of mystery. They've said in multiple SS24 videos it's basically a Rock underneath.
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Originally Posted By November5: Looks suspiciously like it uses a Rock as the base. That looks like a possibly modded Rock slide inside the ejection port. Looks to use the Rock FCG as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By November5: Originally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By Gtscotty: Hard to verify peering through the ejection port, but I really hope the x5.7 is it's own carbine as opposed to a long barrel Rock in a chassis. It is its own, not a chassis. The model at SHOT is 3d printed, not the final production model. It is based on the rock, but it is its own gun, not a chassis. Watch any of the countless videos people at SHOT have made. That concept model is a 3d print, not the full production model. |
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