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5/24/2010 7:02:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Rizzo, did you pull the Beav's teeth out prior to whitening?  Or whiten with them in still?  Getting ready to whiten the one I have this weekend, just curious!!!  Thanks!!!
5/24/2010 7:54:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Nope - I whitened them in place. After the whitening I worked one loose (harder than it sounds) because I wanted to see how far it went in. Those teeth won't bleach out; that color is built-in!

BTW, that beaver skull, a bobcat skull, and a gray fox skull are now sitting at my buddy's medical office. He's an orthodontist and thought it would be cool to show animal teeth to his patients. In the future I'll give him some more species, and in trade he'll x-ray any skull I want him to. Would've been handy with that crazy bear skull that I did earlier this year!
5/26/2010 4:00:28 AM EDT
[#3]
Good deal!!!  My beav's teeth are already loose from degreasing.

Is that bear skull still accessible? Would be cool to see that xray!!
5/26/2010 11:34:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Here's a question for you guys. How do you feel about doing this process on a family pet? My wife thinks I am crazy. Let's say for instance when my dog dies, I perform this process on him and I will have his skull on display forever. Seems better to me than cremation or burying. Wife disagrees because the body will be without a head. Now I admit it would be tough to carve up my dogs head..........
5/26/2010 4:37:08 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Good deal!!!  My beav's teeth are already loose from degreasing.

Is that bear skull still accessible? Would be cool to see that xray!!


Yeah degreasing will loosen up teeth - one of the downsides to cleaning up fat and greasy animals. And I wish I still has access to that big bad bear skull, but once I cleaned it up it went back to the hunter who killed it in Oregon.


Quoted:
Here's a question for you guys. How do you feel about doing this process on a family pet? My wife thinks I am crazy. Let's say for instance when my dog dies, I perform this process on him and I will have his skull on display forever. Seems better to me than cremation or burying. Wife disagrees because the body will be without a head. Now I admit it would be tough to carve up my dogs head..........


I've cleaned a skull from a barn cat and also did a skull for a german shepherd. My taxidermist has made quite a few bucks doing full body mounts of pets that have died - people do it more often than you may think.

5/27/2010 4:03:53 AM EDT
[#6]
One of our local taxidermists main product is pets!!!  People pay a very high amount to keep Ol' Shep over in the corner!!!!!!  He's even made Inside Edition a couple of times.
5/30/2010 11:53:18 AM EDT
[#7]
I know there are also places that freeze dry pets in any position you want. I am talking about doing your OWN pet.
5/30/2010 7:44:07 PM EDT
[#8]
I love this thread.  It reminds me of a woodchuck skull I saw with overgrown teeth.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/RayHead/pic2-lg.jpg
6/14/2010 6:32:59 AM EDT
[#9]
I wish I could work my mother-in-law into this thread, somehow I believe that she and these beetles could create a fantastic symbiotic relationship with each other....
6/25/2010 8:34:25 AM EDT
[#10]
A beaver for a client and a bobcat of my own. I hit this bobcat long range with a shotgun. Any guesses what killed him?



Shot this fox in the back of the head with my .223 when he tried to make a getaway - not so good for skull preservation.

7/5/2010 12:37:15 PM EDT
[#11]
My beetle colony appears to have failed. I have two main issues. The first issue is that the only place I have to keep them outside the house is just too hot. The second issue is that I cannot keep flies out of there regardless of what I do. Feeding is a chore as well. If I had a constant supply of heads and a cooler location I think they would do great.

You got any skulls available Glen?
7/5/2010 7:23:18 PM EDT
[#12]
found my yote skull from last year about 200 yards from where i left it. pics when i get time.
7/5/2010 7:52:03 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
My beetle colony appears to have failed. I have two main issues. The first issue is that the only place I have to keep them outside the house is just too hot. The second issue is that I cannot keep flies out of there regardless of what I do. Feeding is a chore as well. If I had a constant supply of heads and a cooler location I think they would do great.

You got any skulls available Glen?


Too much heat = dead bugs. I sold a colony to a guy who put them in his garage in Phoenix. Must have been 200 degrees in there! Flies are tough to manage if you leave the colony outside with no cover at all. Even building a small shed would help greatly, and would be an inexpensive option. You can also put them in a garage or basement and then make a vent system that ventilates the smell outside; it's pretty easy to do, actually. Feeding shouldn't be too bad because you should be able to feed them scraps from your table, or leftover meat that gets freezer burned and such.

Are you asking if I have frozen heads or cleaned skulls? Because the answer is yes.

7/8/2010 7:18:08 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
My beetle colony appears to have failed. I have two main issues. The first issue is that the only place I have to keep them outside the house is just too hot. The second issue is that I cannot keep flies out of there regardless of what I do. Feeding is a chore as well. If I had a constant supply of heads and a cooler location I think they would do great.

You got any skulls available Glen?


Too much heat = dead bugs. I sold a colony to a guy who put them in his garage in Phoenix. Must have been 200 degrees in there! Flies are tough to manage if you leave the colony outside with no cover at all. Even building a small shed would help greatly, and would be an inexpensive option. You can also put them in a garage or basement and then make a vent system that ventilates the smell outside; it's pretty easy to do, actually. Feeding shouldn't be too bad because you should be able to feed them scraps from your table, or leftover meat that gets freezer burned and such.

Are you asking if I have frozen heads or cleaned skulls? Because the answer is yes.



Well, I have a carport with a storage room at the front of it. I have them in that room. I thought that room stayed cooler than outside but I was wrong. 100+ degrees since march doesn't help much either. As far as flies, the container has a lid and all holes have been filled. I do have a screened section on top that I thought they were dropping eggs through but I still got flies in there after covering it. For some reason I have trouble finding them food. If the food isn't dry then it attracts flies and I end up with maggots. I need to find out how others do this.

Skulls.
7/8/2010 9:01:32 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Well, I have a carport with a storage room at the front of it. I have them in that room. I thought that room stayed cooler than outside but I was wrong. 100+ degrees since march doesn't help much either. As far as flies, the container has a lid and all holes have been filled. I do have a screened section on top that I thought they were dropping eggs through but I still got flies in there after covering it. For some reason I have trouble finding them food. If the food isn't dry then it attracts flies and I end up with maggots. I need to find out how others do this.

Skulls.


Have you tried using fly traps? Flies will always be your enemy when it comes to a beetle colony - I fight them all summer long. Also using lots of odor reducers like Renuzit will keep the smell down and therefore keep the flies away. Also the mesh you use at the top should have the smallest holes possible - overlap two to make the holes smaller if need be. You may also think about a vent from your container to blue sky, if you have an outside wall. Put a fan in there to keep the flies from coming in, and it will keep the smell down and the air a bit cooler.

Right now the only surplus I have are a couple bobcat skulls and a beaver skull that I'm finishing up. Once the season starts I will have more, of course.

7/14/2010 2:48:10 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Well, I have a carport with a storage room at the front of it. I have them in that room. I thought that room stayed cooler than outside but I was wrong. 100+ degrees since march doesn't help much either. As far as flies, the container has a lid and all holes have been filled. I do have a screened section on top that I thought they were dropping eggs through but I still got flies in there after covering it. For some reason I have trouble finding them food. If the food isn't dry then it attracts flies and I end up with maggots. I need to find out how others do this.

Skulls.


Have you tried using fly traps? Flies will always be your enemy when it comes to a beetle colony - I fight them all summer long. Also using lots of odor reducers like Renuzit will keep the smell down and therefore keep the flies away. Also the mesh you use at the top should have the smallest holes possible - overlap two to make the holes smaller if need be. You may also think about a vent from your container to blue sky, if you have an outside wall. Put a fan in there to keep the flies from coming in, and it will keep the smell down and the air a bit cooler.

Right now the only surplus I have are a couple bobcat skulls and a beaver skull that I'm finishing up. Once the season starts I will have more, of course.



I've done all that. I even have a fly trap inside their container.
7/14/2010 9:55:12 AM EDT
[#17]
Wow. You have some persistant flies. You're sure they're maggots and not molted beetle larvae, right? Both of them are white, but you can tell the difference because of the way they move and also their heads.

It seems to me that your main enemy is heat, anyways.
7/14/2010 2:35:13 PM EDT
[#18]
Here's the skull of the smaller, female fisher we caught last fall.



Haven't done the male yet.
7/21/2010 2:30:53 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Wow. You have some persistant flies. You're sure they're maggots and not molted beetle larvae, right? Both of them are white, but you can tell the difference because of the way they move and also their heads.

It seems to me that your main enemy is heat, anyways.


Oh it's maggots for sure.

Nice skull Dave.
7/21/2010 5:41:42 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Oh it's maggots for sure.

Nice skull Dave.


Your IM inbox is full - email sent.

8/7/2010 8:57:35 PM EDT
[#21]
I was out doing a little scouting today while it was raining, and I came upon this:



Just wild dermestids, you say? Well the reason they caught my attention is that they are eating hair. Old hair. In the rain! My dermestids must be spoiled because these days they have been turning their noses up at some of my table scraps. Elitist little punks - for a bug that has a 3 month life span, they sure are picky!
8/26/2010 8:28:12 AM EDT
[#22]
Here's a whitetail deer I just finished up.

10/28/2010 11:09:19 AM EDT
[#23]
It's been awhile since I posted any nice white skulls, so here's an antelope I just finished up today:

11/2/2010 9:34:39 AM EDT
[#24]


What happened to the nose of the white tail?
11/2/2010 2:32:14 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:


What happened to the nose of the white tail?


The hunter busted it up pretty bad dragging it out after he killed it.
11/28/2010 6:57:47 PM EDT
[#26]
This thread is awesome.   Im going to try this next year without permission from the wife unit.  My brass cleaning shenanigans will look tame when I bring home a beetle colony and throw a skull in it.
12/9/2010 9:27:16 AM EDT
[#27]
Just finished this black bear.



12/18/2010 5:15:01 PM EDT
[#28]
Awesome bear Glenn.
12/19/2010 8:33:30 AM EDT
[#29]
Nice job Rizzo!!

12/29/2010 11:42:52 PM EDT
[#30]
I posted these pics in another thread and Rizzo suggested I post them here so here are my attempts at skull cleaning. I use the slow cook/peroxide whitening method and it seems to work pretty well. I don't do enough to support a colony of bugs. My first attempt was this little 6 point.


I tried it again with my first bobcat.


1/3/2011 4:01:28 AM EDT
[#31]
Here's a Booner blackbear, bowkill even, that I finished recently!!







1/3/2011 4:02:07 AM EDT
[#32]
I need to use better lighting for my pics.....lol

1/3/2011 4:03:42 AM EDT
[#33]
Here's a buck from Mo, muzzleloader kill, Boone and Crockett Awards book.....This buck has more mass than any deer I've ever seen!!!  Average mass measurement is 5.6 inches!!!







1/3/2011 3:33:04 PM EDT
[#34]
Wow! That buck is a beauty!
1/3/2011 5:49:39 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Wow! That buck is a beauty!


He grossed 200, netted 190!!!
2/28/2011 5:42:56 PM EDT
[#36]
It's been awhile since I posted some pics, so here's some interesting skulls I just finished up today:

Gray Fox and Coatimundi (my first coatimundi skull)



And the first rattlesnake skull that I have cleaned - came out pretty cool. Wish I had a better camera to show the detail a bit better. This one belongs to an ARFCOM member - BriggsRi.

2/28/2011 8:08:26 PM EDT
[#37]
the rattlesnake skull looks awesome
2/28/2011 10:19:53 PM EDT
[#38]
Here's a couple of better pics of the rattlesnake skull.




3/2/2011 3:07:56 AM EDT
[#39]
Glen,

Thanks, it looks pretty good, can't wait to get it back.

I'll have to work on getting you a bigger one this summer.
3/2/2011 7:12:49 AM EDT
[#40]
So Rizzo I'm gonna guess and say that I have a fox in my hand, is that correct?
3/2/2011 7:56:03 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
So Rizzo I'm gonna guess and say that I have a fox in my hand, is that correct?


Yes sir, you got it.

3/3/2011 5:57:02 AM EDT
[#42]
Nice work!!  Love the snake!!!
3/3/2011 6:04:59 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Here's a buck from Mo, muzzleloader kill, Boone and Crockett Awards book.....This buck has more mass than any deer I've ever seen!!!  Average mass measurement is 5.6 inches!!!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey4.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey3.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey2.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey.jpg


I love the way that is mounted.  Very cool and movable mount...I like it!
3/6/2011 5:06:35 AM EDT
[#44]
tag so I can read up.



I'm looking to get some beetles soon.
3/9/2011 3:55:15 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Here's a buck from Mo, muzzleloader kill, Boone and Crockett Awards book.....This buck has more mass than any deer I've ever seen!!!  Average mass measurement is 5.6 inches!!!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey4.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey3.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey2.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/ramey.jpg


I love the way that is mounted.  Very cool and movable mount...I like it!


That pedestal can also be turned 180 degrees, and hung on the wall!!!

3/16/2011 10:04:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Some bobcats I just finished up - the hunter told me that both of them took shotgun pellets to the head. Once I got them cleaned up that was easy to see! One of them took a shotgun pellet through the mouth and lost a canine, and the other took some broadside with a pellet through the nasal cavity and a pellet through the jaw.


3/21/2011 6:56:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Got some Beatles a couple weeks ago. Trapped a mouse at work and thought why not try one of the smallest animals I could trap.
3/21/2011 8:03:42 PM EDT
[#48]
Sweet! Nice mouse skull.
3/22/2011 11:38:45 AM EDT
[#49]
Is that mounted on the penny?
If so, nice touch!
3/22/2011 2:42:40 PM EDT
[#50]
A little coues deer that went back to the hunter today.


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