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7/24/2026 8:11:27 PM EDT
I have a fairly large black bear roaming my land.  I see it on camera even during the day.  I need to do a bunch of land-owner maintenance next week and need to carry something just in case.

My 1911 is the only big bore pistol I own except for my .44 magnum single shot, which I think would be a really bad idea for bear.  I found some Underwood hard cast +p rounds for my 1911 that claim to be good enough to penetrate a bears heavy bones and fur and get to vitals.

Any thoughts?

Currently carrying a Mossburg 18" pump action shotgun with 8 12 ga slugs, but it limits my ability to do much work.
7/24/2026 8:37:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Trucker69][Edited] [#1]
I don’t know what you mean by fairly large, but you’ll be fine with those bullets in the 1911.

Just making noise and letting him know you’re in the area should be enough to run him off.  They’re usually pretty skittish unless they live in areas that they raid trash and food from humans and are used to being around people.
7/24/2026 9:07:37 PM EDT
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Yelling and making noise almost always works, I'd hate to have to shoot one and deal with the investigation afterwards.  I've hiked all over the tri-state area, primarily with a S&W 642 with 158gr Keith style bullets, and never worried about black bear.  Any decent defensive .45 round should work fine on them, a non HP should ensure penetration.  Whatever you get just ensure it's reliable in your particular gun, some 1911s can be finicky about .45 SWC and similar.
7/24/2026 9:21:01 PM EDT
[#3]
A 45 acp FMJ is more than sufficient for black bear defense.  They are not particularly tough critters
7/24/2026 10:01:26 PM EDT
[#4]
You'd be the second person ever killed in NC by a black bear so I'd say you're pretty safe regardless of what you carry. Honestly as long as it isn't a thin jacketed hollow point it would probably work fine. In AK I always figured my 229 in 40 would do in a pinch.
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7/24/2026 10:38:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
You'd be the second person ever killed in NC by a black bear so I'd say you're pretty safe regardless of what you carry. Honestly as long as it isn't a thin jacketed hollow point it would probably work fine. In AK I always figured my 229 in 40 would do in a pinch.
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All my handguns are .22 or 9mm...I think any of them would just piss him off.

I'm also concerned that he's so active during the day.  We're in an extreme drought, no berries are ripening, so I think he's hungry.  Don't want to be a meal.
7/24/2026 11:05:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Even 9mm has been used against bears successfully.  But FMJ or hardcast is going to penetrate well.  MecGar makes an 11 round mag.
7/24/2026 11:11:15 PM EDT
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All my handguns are .22 or 9mm...I think any of them would just piss him off.

I'm also concerned that he's so active during the day.  We're in an extreme drought, no berries are ripening, so I think he's hungry.  Don't want to be a meal.
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
You'd be the second person ever killed in NC by a black bear so I'd say you're pretty safe regardless of what you carry. Honestly as long as it isn't a thin jacketed hollow point it would probably work fine. In AK I always figured my 229 in 40 would do in a pinch.


All my handguns are .22 or 9mm...I think any of them would just piss him off.

I'm also concerned that he's so active during the day.  We're in an extreme drought, no berries are ripening, so I think he's hungry.  Don't want to be a meal.

I know for a fact 38 Super will kill a black bear. Bet 9mm would too. I wish I had the money time and resources to test stuff out. Something like this https://underwoodammo.com/9mm-luger-p-115-grain-xtreme-penetrator/
BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.

People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
7/24/2026 11:12:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Is the bear aggressive or are you just being proactive? Every black bear I’ve ever been around wanted nothing to do with me.
BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.

People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
7/25/2026 7:50:12 AM EDT
[#9]
Don't know...don't want to find out.
7/25/2026 8:22:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Run a mag or two through your 1911 to ensure those underwood +P rounds cycle reliably. Honestly, regular 230 FMJ would be fine. I would grab a 8rd mecgar magazine, for 9rds cocked and locked.
7/25/2026 8:31:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Yeah hardcast a or underwood’s from a 1911 will do great.

The Venn diagram of average black bears and large Walmart shoppers weights’ has significant overlap.
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7/25/2026 11:20:27 AM EDT
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These are Missouri Bullet Co.  215gr SWC with a stout load of UNIQUE or w231  at about 1000fps







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