Better LATE than never.....SEVEN Years in Idaho! (Page 7 of 36)
|
Lots of things happening today.......Yesterday ....not so much! Woke up with the urge to build a storage shed over by the mill without having to spend any money. I want to be able to take all my power tools, air compressor, and generator over there where I need them and still be able to secure them and keep them out of the weather. So here we go.... I found three trees relative close to each other and decided to top them and use them as three of the posts.... Attached File Attached File Attached File After bracing the front posts I topped the tree in the back corner and then used that as the fourth post. Used my post hole digger to get it planted... The only issue is that the third tree was inset from the other so the actual shed will be wider in the front than it is in the back by two feet on each side. Attached File Attached File After I got the top planted I added the top rail and some supports. The roof will be square and over hang the rear section two feet more than in the front and I will be able to use that as additional storage space for hanging tools (Shovels, rakes, etc.....) out of the weather.I am trying to do this for no money with whatever I have on site..... |
|
I then rounded up a bunch of 5-6" trees that I cut down last year and threw them up on the posts..... Attached File Attached File Attached File I even went so far as to cut up the metal banding that secured the mill to the pallet and used them as an improvised 'hurricane strap' for the rafters..... Attached File Then I threw up some runners for the metal roof that I decided to install to weather proof it. Yes I will have to spend money on the metal roof, but hopefully I can find some reclaimed stuff on the cheap........ Attached File That pretty much took most of the day, minus an hour or so break when the neighbor came over to see what I was up to and to look over the mill. Tomorrow (unless it rains) I plan on cutting some more trees to use as cross members on the side walls and to mill some more runner for the roof. I will also start pulling some additional trees around that I cut last year (16-24") so I can start cutting some siding for the shed. This is by no means going to be a 'pretty' structure. As I said I just need a secure area to store my tools without having to haul them back to the cabin. After I get my main barn/ shop built I may, if it is still solid, set it up as my forge and move my coal forge, gas forge and anvil into it permanently..... time will tell. |
|
As the day was winding down and I was up on the roof of the shed I had some visitors come by to see what I was up to..... Attached File Attached File They hung out for a bit until I started down the ladder. |
Born with a low tolerance for bullshit
Joined:
Feb 2007
Posts:
44172
EE: 0% (0)
KY, USA
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: Oh yeah plumbing and electrical will be added to my mom's place. For the rain water collection I will be starting with a 1500 gallon tank on her place. There will be a 12v rv pump that has a 4 gallon pressure tank to supply water for her needs. All water will pass through a filter system and then she will also have the 'berkey' clone for all of her potable water. She will be using a composting toilet and then all gray water will be recycled for use in the garden beds etc.... She will also have solar (size tbd) with wind (tbd), backed up with a generator....... At least that is my plan, which is subject to change. I did look into what it would cost to have the electric run from the top of my road to my main area by my mill(approx 4-500 ft) and it is $2.35 or so a foot to just run the main line, not including the service installation, so that is not even a consideration at this time. I can put in one hell of a solar system for that! A well estimate based on my neighbors wells was $15-18K which is not in my budget either. Just doing basic rain water collection of my tent roof and storage building in 5 gallon buckets, filtering into 50 gallon drums, and then using my 'berkey' for my drinking and cooking I had plenty of water all winter. So once I get solid metal roofs and gutters set up on all of my buildings (going forward) I should have plenty of water for all the needs on my property. Very cool that you have a plan that you have proven can work! For me, proving it is possible would help a lot moving forward. |
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: I then rounded up a bunch of 5-6" trees that I cut down last year and threw them up on the posts..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_0897_jpg-1328700.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_0900_jpg-1328702.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_0903_jpg-1328704.JPG I even went so far as to cut up the metal banding that secured the mill to the pallet and used them as an improvised 'hurricane strap' for the rafters..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_0906_jpg-1328708.JPG Then I threw up some runners for the metal roof that I decided to install to weather proof it. Yes I will have to spend money on the metal roof, but hopefully I can find some reclaimed stuff on the cheap........ https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_0909_jpg-1328709.JPG That pretty much took most of the day, minus an hour or so break when the neighbor came over to see what I was up to and to look over the mill. Tomorrow (unless it rains) I plan on cutting some more trees to use as cross members on the side walls and to mill some more runner for the roof. I will also start pulling some additional trees around that I cut last year (16-24") so I can start cutting some siding for the shed. This is by no means going to be a 'pretty' structure. As I said I just need a secure area to store my tools without having to haul them back to the cabin. After I get my main barn/ shop built I may, if it is still solid, set it up as my forge and move my coal forge, gas forge and anvil into it permanently..... time will tell. Apologies if I missed it somewhere - but, how far is this site from your cabin? |
On Time. On Target.
|
Originally Posted By coregon: Apologies if I missed it somewhere - but, how far is this site from your cabin? It's about 120 yards through the ravine.......It's not THAT far but it's the wettest part of the property and dragging my power tools back and forth is not an efficient option. Especially my generator. |
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: It's about 120 yards through the ravine.......It's not THAT far but it's the wettest part of the property and dragging my power tools back and forth is not an efficient option. Especially my generator. Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: Originally Posted By coregon: Apologies if I missed it somewhere - but, how far is this site from your cabin? It's about 120 yards through the ravine.......It's not THAT far but it's the wettest part of the property and dragging my power tools back and forth is not an efficient option. Especially my generator. Rgr - I figured it was more about convenience, than distance. Looking good! I love these threads and enjoying this one. |
On Time. On Target.
CHRONIC - Member ....but not a 3rd member
Joined:
Sep 2004
Posts:
96553
EE: 100% (1)
TX, USA
|
I'm diggin it! You seem to have your sawmill figured out. That was quick! That 'slab wood' off those logs makes decent siding for a shed. I lived near 3 sawmills in MT and I had all the free slab wood I could haul away. I used the hell out of it on outbuildings. It ain't purdy, but it keeps the weather out. I really look forward to your posts. (no homo) 
|
You can't teach Democracy to people that still shit in their hands and believe in sharia law. - EasTexan
Sua Sponte
Sua Sponte
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: Oops! The total was right around $12,500. I can get a really nice solar system for that. I didn't want to say anything, but yea, I was thinking, for $1,500 I think I'd go ahead and get them to run power to me! For $12K+ your argument is much more compelling. |
"When you need it and ain't got it, you're singin' a different tune..."
|
More progress today...... Started add supports to the sides and back of the shed..... Attached File Attached File Then i moved the 1x8 over to use them as nailers for the siding. Attached File Attached File At this point I moved to the mill to cut the remaining log I had staged for the roof runners, more side runners and another full dimension 2x8 which will eventual go on the deck. If I could get it off my friggin' phone I'd be able to post the vid...... Attached File |
|
Neighbors stopped by and pulled several logs back around to the mill from near my cabin where I fell them last fall......The large on on the right was a standing dead spruce which will be used later for a project in my cabin. The other two will be used for the shed..... Attached File After they left I continued adding upper supports and runners to the sides of the shed. Attached File Attached File Attached File Tomorrow, weather permitting, I will mill the new logs, add the lower runners and supports, finish trimming the roof edges, and hopefully start on the joists for the deck. If by then I get the video off my phone I will try to post it as well...... |
|
Ran the mill yesterday, shot some pretty good video, which I hope to have up sometime later today. Anyway I milled up a bunch of 4x4's (with some additional planking and some 2x4's) and started doing the floor joist for the shed. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File I am going to also put some supports under the joists since they are only 4x4, but will also be putting full dimension 2x8's and 10's down for the decking. Should be plenty beefy for my needs. I may play around with a cedar shake roof as my neighbor just fell several cedars over on his property.....I haven't decided yet. Gotta run in town today and get some spikes for the joists and will price metal for the roof and decide which way I want to go with it. The siding will be board and batten and I will be continuing to cut that as I go. |
First video up, I sped it up a little to keep it as short as possible.......I am cutting the floor joist for the shed. Failed To Load Title |
Next video is up.....It basically covers the work of the last batch of photos that I posted.  Failed To Load Title Let me know if you like the videos or would prefer the photos going forward...... |
|
Went ahead and finished the joists and sunk some support piers in the ground to support the floor joists. It is very solid now. The weather has gone all 'springtime' up here and will rain one minute, sleet another, and top it off with some nice blowing snow.........yay! Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Depending on the weather tomorrow I will continue cutting the 2x's for the deck and also the 1x's for the siding. I will most likely be getting metal roof next week from work because the discount is pretty sweet.... |
 Failed To Load Title |
|
Well I spent yesterday in between rain showers cleaning up a bit around the mill and then decided to drop the first 'Big Tree' that is in the area of the mill. I will use the lower 10' portion of this tree (approx 22" at base) to slab the 2x decking for the shed. It was a little too wet to bring in the neighbors atv to move it so I took some time to roll it over to the mill. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File It's pouring rain at the moment but if it lets up I will head out and work at the mill a bit this afternoon. |
|
Looks like your really enjoying life OP, have fun, love the updates. What is the life span of the saw mill blade and how much fuel does it burn? I see where a package of 10 blades is $250 so that is not too bad. |
We are born free and will stay free.
|
I should get pretty good life on the blades since I am mostly cutting soft pine.......as long as I take most of the dirt off the bark I should get pretty good life out of each.I ordered the 10 pack with the mill so I should be set for a while. As far as gas goes I put about 1/2 tank in when I started and I am still on that after about 3.5 hours of milling. |
Worked a little with the mill yesterday taking advantage of the beautiful 'Idaho Spring' day that was afforded me......I was able to cut a good bit of additional siding out of the log I had staged. Weather permitting I will work on the big log today, and cut the remainder of the decking...... Failed To Load Title edit.......Woke up this morning to this wonderful sight..... Attached File |
Born with a low tolerance for bullshit
Joined:
Feb 2007
Posts:
44266
EE: 0% (0)
KY, USA
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: Worked a little with the mill yesterday taking advantage of the beautiful 'Idaho Spring' day that was afforded me......I was able to cut a good bit of additional siding out of the log I had staged. Weather permitting I will work on the big log today, and cut the remainder of the decking......  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4wW80Yetoedit.......Woke up this morning to this wonderful sight..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_0972_JPG-1344955.JPG That's beautiful! |
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
Joined:
Dec 2005
Posts:
67495
EE: 100% (6)
ID, USA
|
Originally Posted By Bosqueboy: Did you feel the earthquake? I felt it in Weiser. 20 seconds or so of gentle swaying. I was sitting on a wooden stool on a concrete slab and it felt like we were moving 2 inches or so, east-west. |
We haven't seen a duck, but something's been quacking and eating all our bread sticks.-Gareth Dean, on the failure to directly detect gravitational waves.
I cut the big log up into 2x8x10's in order to finish the deck of the tool shed..... Failed To Load Title I picked up the metal roof yesterday and will be installing that today as well as starting the siding. |
Finally got the roof on! Gonna be working on the deck today. I'm gonna try to take more pics and post them going forward....... Failed To Load Title Hopefully once I get the deck done I can get the majority of my tools over there and that will help speed up future build projects. |
I had the hardest day yesterday dealing with the large timber boards. I did not realize they were as heavy as they were. However, i did get the decking down and will be moving on to the siding after I rest a bit..... Failed To Load Title Once the siding goes up I will be able to get my generator and power tools over there and will begin production of the timbers for my other projects. |
|
Today was too nice of a day not to get a few things done...... I hauled some of my tools and my generator over to the shed this morning. Attached File I nailed down the decking and also started the siding. I have to wait on my neighbor to pull some more logs around to my mill so I am at a standstill until he is able to get to that for me. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
Born with a low tolerance for bullshit
Joined:
Feb 2007
Posts:
44301
EE: 0% (0)
KY, USA
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: Today was too nice of a day not to get a few things done...... I hauled some of my tools and my generator over to the shed this morning. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_1005_JPG-1351261.JPG I nailed down the decking and also started the siding. I have to wait on my neighbor to pull some more logs around to my mill so I am at a standstill until he is able to get to that for me. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_1007_JPG-1351268.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_1011_JPG-1351270.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384426/IMG_1012_JPG-1351273.JPG Awesome work. Proud of you using some old building techniques to make that happen! Have you given any thought to termite protection for the shed and for any other structures you make out of the pine? (Or other softwood) |
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
|
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Awesome work. Proud of you using some old building techniques to make that happen! Have you given any thought to termite protection for the shed and for any other structures you make out of the pine? (Or other softwood) Honestly, no....not for the shed. I will look at it a little more when it comes to building my mom's place. My main concern is mice. I spread a bunch of the bait/poison under it and when I I finish the siding I will concentrate on getting all the crevices filled as well as possible. I went to service the little generator I used all winter (servicing it several times) and I thought I would test the pull cord and it turns out a mouse got in the generator at some point and chewed through the cord....  ....Good things it's electric start.
|
CHRONIC - Member ....but not a 3rd member
Joined:
Sep 2004
Posts:
97153
EE: 100% (1)
TX, USA
|
Ended up working Saturday and got a lot of my tools and generator over to the shed area. I was able to nail the floor down and then started on the siding. I took Sunday off and then worked Monday and half of Tuesday in town. I should get the siding done today and then I can work on the front of shed to get the doors framed in, the doors made, and then hung.  Failed To Load Title |
Born with a low tolerance for bullshit
Joined:
Feb 2007
Posts:
44325
EE: 0% (0)
KY, USA
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: Honestly, no....not for the shed. I will look at it a little more when it comes to building my mom's place. My main concern is mice. I spread a bunch of the bait/poison under it and when I I finish the siding I will concentrate on getting all the crevices filled as well as possible. I went to service the little generator I used all winter (servicing it several times) and I thought I would test the pull cord and it turns out a mouse got in the generator at some point and chewed through the cord.... ....Good things it's electric start.You need a cat!  Not as long as there's mouse bait out though. 
|
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
Born with a low tolerance for bullshit
Joined:
Feb 2007
Posts:
44326
EE: 0% (0)
KY, USA
|
Originally Posted By pcsutton: If you mix borax with water in a hudson sprayer, and coat the wood really heavily, it will keep termites away. Boring beetles and stuff too. What's the dilution, and how often do you have to spray it? Very interested in this. |
Nobody ever wakes me at 2 in the morning telling me that my grass is out on the highway.~~Radiopat
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe
CHRONIC - Member ....but not a 3rd member
Joined:
Sep 2004
Posts:
97231
EE: 100% (1)
TX, USA
|
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: What's the dilution, and how often do you have to spray it? Very interested in this. If you look at a new build when it's framed in, but not yet sheeted, you can see the blue dye they use as proof that it's been done. Not sure if it's code or not, but for the minimal expense involved it should be. Borax (like 100 Mule Team Borax) is Borate Salts...same as they use in the professional product.  Link to info.  |
You can't teach Democracy to people that still shit in their hands and believe in sharia law. - EasTexan
Sua Sponte
Sua Sponte
|
Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: $3250 plus delivery just wasn’t in the budget. I plan on building a timber frame shop next year so the rental unit was the most affordable solution at this time. Originally Posted By Davidrw5150: Originally Posted By cms81586: Why not just buy a 20’ conex instead? $3250 plus delivery just wasn’t in the budget. I plan on building a timber frame shop next year so the rental unit was the most affordable solution at this time. I will deliver you a 40' for $3k. Great thread BTW. |
"You can watch things happen, you can make things happen, or you can wonder what the fuck just happened." ~ Phil Harris RIP
CHRONIC - Member ....but not a 3rd member
Joined:
Sep 2004
Posts:
97232
EE: 100% (1)
TX, USA
|
It's been a busy week, I have moved a bunch of logs by hand (well with a come along) out of the brush, and cut quite a bit of siding for the shed. Most of it is up on the sides and back and I will be starting the framing for the front so I can get the doors built and mounted. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
|
Spent the last couple day knocking out the siding (except for a few odd ball pieces) and got the front framed in and sided as well. The weather the last couple of days was incredible so I kept the mill busy and was able to bust out most of what I wanted to get accomplished. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File I should have all the lumber milled that I will need to make the front swinging doors. Once they are installed I will start cutting the batons, and any trim that is needed to button this thing up as tight as possible. I was hoping to get the KLR out today for a nice ride but, unfortunately, I woke up to 20' weather this morning......Maybe I'll take an abbreviated ride later this afternoon if it warms a bit. Hope everyone has Blessed Easter and that this ridiculous 'quarantine' is not effecting you too adversely. |
The best stories always suck to make.
Joined:
Sep 2002
Posts:
11036
EE: 100% (1)
CO, USA