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Posted: 5/15/2024 6:04:19 PM EDT
What's typically lacking with "preppers?" Physical fitness. How do I know this? Well I've interacted with tens of thousands of like minded people over the 38 years I've personally been preparing as well as the 32 years I've been interacting with like minded folks in business. Why is this lacking? Are people not taking it seriously enough because they really think "adrenaline will get me through" (commonly heard excuse). I do it largely as a stress relief. My time running, at the gym doing combatives and at the range shooting are stress relievers for me. Hard to get too worked up about the normal BS of the day when your going over that hill again on the 2nd mile, or when someone is trying to choke you or punch you in the face. Fitness helps your health, which means less down time at doctors, less MEDS to stock, etc. I'm over that proverbial "hill" now and when I do infrequently go to a med exam, the nurse often doesn't believe me when I say all I take daily is vitamins. "No sir, I mean stuff like diabetic medicine, something for your heart.." Yes ma'am I know what you mean. A couple times a year I get a sinus infection, take some doxy at home and perhaps a quarter of a prednisone for a day or two." "But you see Lowdown3 I don't plan to have to (insert any survival situation involving effort- BO, fighting, etc.)" Well that's good that you will have total control over what situation happens, when it happens, where you will be and what you will have to do in that situation, that's a pretty awesome super power! I carried around a lot of extra weight for a lotta damn years. I was able to go farther than a lot of dudes 50 or 70 lbs. lighter than me. But that wasn't good for my body and my structure either. Back in 09 I started cutting weight for fights/competition, going from over 220 down to a low of 172. I normally reside around 185 now and that seems to be a comfortable weight for me. Around Memorial Day a lot of people do a "Murph" challenge. It consists of 2 mile run with plate carrier and plates, 300 squats, 200 pushups and 100 pull ups. Often the pull ups are substituted with a mix of burpees or people use the assistance bands. Consider doing this or a half Murph. You got a couple weeks to practice for it. Good luck and post about your PT! |
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My gym is hosting a murph challenge next Saturday. I would do it but I'll be at Cola Warrior that weekend, doing my first night run.
I'm 45 years old and agree with everything you say. It is definitely way outside the norm to be fit at my age, especially in my AO. But my wife is hot and she makes a ton of money so I kinda gotta maintain trophy husband status. |
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I spent about $1200 on a home gym- bench, three sets of dumbbells, plenty of plates, some ancillaries. I work out three days a week. Don't have to drive to a gym or spend money on a membership. No meds, just vitamins. A lot of preppers look at their equipment as a panacea, neglecting the human component. None of that shit's a lick of good if you're not healthy enough to use it. If the worse really does happen, medical care is going to be in high demand or non-existent. Get healthy now.
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I'm just getting started trying to get back into some semblance of "fit". Sitting in front of a computer for work all day is just bad. I started doing walks around the apartment complex (roughly 3/4 mile) wearing a IIIa vest with rifle plates. Granted, I look like the Tactical Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man wearing it but at least it's something. Have cranked down the carbs to just about zero and am slowly starting to also use dumbells and picking up "heavy" stuff (ie cleaning up the place and getting things organized). I'm down 30lbs. so far and want to lose another 30 lbs by the end of the year. I've started throwing some collagen into my coffee in the morning and that seems to be helping with the arthritis in the joints. Every time I go to a doctor's office, they always want to do an X-ray and when they look at it, the first thing out of their mouth is "You know you have some really bad arthritis going on in your joints." Yeah, no duh. Tell me something I don't already know.
I will say 4 years ago right before the rally in Richmond, I did a couple of 6 mile hikes with a group of arfcommers and it wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I figured after being sedentary for so long, I'd hurt something lugging a 40lb pack for 6 miles. Surprisingly, both times I wasn't even sore the next day. I'll have to work back up to that again. I have no delusions of becoming a HSLD operator operating operationally but at least I should be able to do a reasonable amount of stuff reasonably well. |
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Did a full Murph again yesterday with the family. Particularly sucked because I worked all day at our range doing framing on a FOF house we are building there.
We don't have a pull up bar at the house so we sub'ed burpees for the pull ups. I didn't check the temp, but this was about 5pm so had to be pushing 90 or better. Skipped wearing a shirt under my plate carrier. This allowed more air in but seemed to work against me with the sweat. No shirt to soak it up and it ended up soaking my shorts. Shorts made that noise like swim trunks do after you get out of the water, and felt like I had been swimming in them. Maybe a small shirt like a wife beater style would work to allow more air flow but catch sweat a bit- I live in the woods but I don't have one of those shirts LOL. Just over a month out of a foot injury where I dropped a board on my foot from about 5 foot up. Taking calcium citrate and D3 daily seemed to have helped if I did have a minor fracture there. Other foot has plantar fibromatosis (slightly different than plantar fasciatis). I got a steroid shot in that foot about two months ago and it seemed to help a bit, but I can still feel the discomfort. Getting old sucks, don't do it! ![]() |
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What I’ve seen lacking with most “Preppers” is already being in a location. Most are city boys doing office work with a wife and kids anchors around their necks. You will not be welcome out in the bush. You will be the hordes of refugees coming to take resources from those of us already out here. The enemy in other words. Now is the time to get out of the cities and start making friends and relationships with the locals.
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Insulin stash are lacking.
Being prepared means being fit and needing a lower amount of caloric intake. I'm with OP. |
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Originally Posted By Shadyman: What I’ve seen lacking with most “Preppers” is already being in a location. Most are city boys doing office work with a wife and kids anchors around their necks. You will not be welcome out in the bush. You will be the hordes of refugees coming to take resources from those of us already out here. The enemy in other words. Now is the time to get out of the cities and start making friends and relationships with the locals. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Shadyman: What I’ve seen lacking with most “Preppers” is already being in a location. Most are city boys doing office work with a wife and kids anchors around their necks. You will not be welcome out in the bush. You will be the hordes of refugees coming to take resources from those of us already out here. The enemy in other words. Now is the time to get out of the cities and start making friends and relationships with the locals. Definitely another one on the list. Unfortunately the (piss poor) idea of being able to live amongst tens of thousands of unprepared and system dependent people (cities and suburbs) in a true bad situation has become common place BS amongst newer "preppers." Fiction stories written have pushed this be the "savior of the subdivision" mentality where the one lone prepper becomes the savior of the area. Magically no one shanks him in the middle of the night for his stuff, but everyone bows to his great ideas and "bands together" and all quietly starve together while "Joe prepper" somehow doesn't. It's easier to read BS like that and try to justify your location, versus making real lifestyle changes. with a wife and kids anchors around their necks. Family can be your biggest asset or your biggest liability. If you have the standard Amerikan family structure (Mom running it, kids second tier and then the Homer Simpson dunskie Dad) then it's likely towards the liability side of the equation. If the family has real leadership, knows how to physically work together towards a common goal, the kids are behaved, listen the first time without stupid counting exercises (weak parenting) and the family has some experience living with a little hardship, then it's probably more towards the asset side of the equation. You need families, but the caveat being squared away ones, not the typical upside down BS ones. I've seen soooo many males that could have been great leaders of their families that relegated themselves to being whiny little B's either because of a overpowering wife (Jezebel spirit) or (more likely) they were not willing to deal with the RESPONSIBILITY of leadership in the family. These "males" unfortunately are the ones that you can spend years trying to develop, train, etc. only to have the wife no longer "let them" (key word to look for=nutless) continue to train/prepare, etc. This sort of thing, like the PT in the OP, are the serious issues most "preppers" are avoiding, while wasting time wargaming "lists" of things they will never acquire or never do. |
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Did a full Murph yesterday again, late afternoon. For some reason this year the pushups are dogging me near the end....
We split it up with 5 sets of the calisthenics then 1 mile run, then 5 more sets, then 1 mile run again then 5 more sets. End up doing about 25 more pushups than necessary but with that and some extra burpees thrown in for lack of a pull up bar at home. |
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I’m not in “Murph” shape, but after work yesterday I did 3x12 dips, 20 minutes on the elliptical and 3x17 pushups (using those handles that rotate), finishing with 25 minutes of increasing inclining treadmill (fast walk). I was pretty soaked.
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Originally Posted By ADKRebel: I’m not in “Murph” shape, but after work yesterday I did 3x12 dips, 20 minutes on the elliptical and 3x17 pushups (using those handles that rotate), finishing with 25 minutes of increasing inclining treadmill (fast walk). I was pretty soaked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ADKRebel: I’m not in “Murph” shape, but after work yesterday I did 3x12 dips, 20 minutes on the elliptical and 3x17 pushups (using those handles that rotate), finishing with 25 minutes of increasing inclining treadmill (fast walk). I was pretty soaked. Nice!!! 3x17 pushups (using those handles that rotate), f If it's what I'm thinking about you can do similar with 25 lb. and higher kettlebells. Gripping the handles with your wrists either straight with the body or turned sideways. Or change them as you are doing pushups- one direction the other a different direction, etc. |
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Agree 100% OP. At 62, it gets harder to stay in "young man's shape" but I try. Avoiding injury is the problem now. Everything hurts and I don't heal nearly as fast, but I'll rest when I'm dead.
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Tough one today!!! It said the "real feel" temperature was 97 degrees. Wife did it with us today and used my plate carrier and I wore one with heavier plates. Can't tell if it was the slight weight difference, the heat or that we didn't have any lunch but darn if it kicked my arse today. Got it done, but did walk about 50 yards up a hill on the 2nd mile.
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3: Tough one today!!! It said the "real feel" temperature was 97 degrees. Wife did it with us today and used my plate carrier and I wore one with heavier plates. Can't tell if it was the slight weight difference, the heat or that we didn't have any lunch but darn if it kicked my arse today. Got it done, but did walk about 50 yards up a hill on the 2nd mile. View Quote I wish the heat index here was only 97. Today topped out at 109 and yesterday was 113. It's crazy for this kind of heat and humidity to be happening in May. If this keeps up, by mid-August nobody will be able to go outside without spontaneous combustion. That said, I told the wife I'm going to buy an el-cheapo plate carrier and add in blue ice blocks. That's probably going to be the only way I'm going to be able to do a lot of outdoor activities without catching a bad case of heat stroke. Also saw a Camelbak 2.5L backpack on clearance at Academy. May pick that up, too. Gotta do something to deal with the heat when outside. |
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not being fit or in poor health that can be fixed is a major failing in "preppers/survivalists" another is location and the one that makes me shake my head the most is opsec (they will go on and on to anyone who will listen to them how they are prepping for X)
the common denominator for these failures is that they are larping, playing at being prepared instead of actually trying to be prepared some of the best prepared people I have run across either have no idea what "prepping" is or are smart enough to shut the hell up about what they are doing I was visiting a buddy and looking around his property one day and it hit me that his homestead is ideally set up should things ever go tits up. He never talks about prepping, none of the things he has done to the property or hobbies he gets involved in are referenced as a good thing if X ever happens. it's always I love how fresh and tasty these crops I planted are, or I took a class on this because it was fun, or I put in solar cause it saves me money on utilities etc. I have also noticed that he tends to keep the aforementioned larpers at arms length and that the pool of friends in his inner circle tend to be similar in attitude/ability of course, that could all be coincidence but ever since I noticed it, the more convinced I am that it is by choice, although maybe a choice that has become just an ingrained habit at this point. |
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Originally Posted By InsaneRusher: of course, that could all be coincidence but ever since I noticed it, the more convinced I am that it is by choice, although maybe a choice that has become just an ingrained habit at this point. View Quote I'm going to be blunt, and you are close to hitting the nail on the head: prepping is an affectation to far too many. All the gear is a salve or a feel-good prize, not part of a coherent and well-developed mode of living. |
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3: Definitely another one on the list. Unfortunately the (piss poor) idea of being able to live amongst tens of thousands of unprepared and system dependent people (cities and suburbs) in a true bad situation has become common place BS amongst newer "preppers." Fiction stories written have pushed this be the "savior of the subdivision" mentality where the one lone prepper becomes the savior of the area. Magically no one shanks him in the middle of the night for his stuff, but everyone bows to his great ideas and "bands together" and all quietly starve together while "Joe prepper" somehow doesn't. It's easier to read BS like that and try to justify your location, versus making real lifestyle changes. Family can be your biggest asset or your biggest liability. If you have the standard Amerikan family structure (Mom running it, kids second tier and then the Homer Simpson dunskie Dad) then it's likely towards the liability side of the equation. If the family has real leadership, knows how to physically work together towards a common goal, the kids are behaved, listen the first time without stupid counting exercises (weak parenting) and the family has some experience living with a little hardship, then it's probably more towards the asset side of the equation. You need families, but the caveat being squared away ones, not the typical upside down BS ones. I've seen soooo many males that could have been great leaders of their families that relegated themselves to being whiny little B's either because of a overpowering wife (Jezebel spirit) or (more likely) they were not willing to deal with the RESPONSIBILITY of leadership in the family. These "males" unfortunately are the ones that you can spend years trying to develop, train, etc. only to have the wife no longer "let them" (key word to look for=nutless) continue to train/prepare, etc. This sort of thing, like the PT in the OP, are the serious issues most "preppers" are avoiding, while wasting time wargaming "lists" of things they will never acquire or never do. View Quote https://canonpress.com/products/the-household-and-the-war-for-the-cosmos |
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Skills to stay alive
Resources to continue to stay alive Lack of a pre-established network coupled with a belief you alone can defend yourself/family from hordes of starving, desperate people who have nothing to lose. Ability not to become a target (many will attract attention via lights, wood burner use, food smells, livestock, water, etc) Health issues (illness, injuries, meds, sodium, potassium, magnesium, calories/proteins) Most preppers are good for a short time event, but anything longer and the ability to stay alive drops quickly |
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All these and more.
I used to give talks at conventions, etc. The main one was regarding all of these types of things that are basically the problems with preppers. Family "not on board", out of shape, too many "plans" and "lists" with too little action/initiative, thinking they can be 1/4 mile outside a large metropolis and do fine, gear they have never really used, training and skills they are lacking in, etc. etc. Preparedness is NOT an extended shopping trip and OCD fest. You need gear, sure, but there is a helluva lot more to it than that. |
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I don't really think it's any "better" doing this kind of workout in the morning. Hell if anything it felt more humid.
Yesterday, 11am'ish. I think our running spot, a good portion of which is down a paved road, is more open to the sun then it is normally in the later afternoon when we normally run or Murph. ![]() Soaked. A little tougher yesterday mid morning. Walked about 50 yards up the hill on the 2nd mile. Found my heart rate seemed a little higher than normal at the end during the last round of pushups and squats. The rest of the family all felt like it was worse in the mid morning also. Doesn't really matter, matters more when it's convenient time for you, as you will do it more when the time is convenient versus making excuses. |
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Been averaging 43-45 minutes doing this at home. Did it today with the whole crew and included the pull ups/assistance bands. It was a little over 45 minutes today. Family finished around 50 minutes.
The folks we did it with today break it up a little different, doing a mile run then doing all the exercises in 10 sets, then the 2nd mile run. This seemed to beat the hell out of my legs more and the 2nd mile was considerably harder than it is at home. This despite not having any hills! |
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I either run or cycle most days. I do push-ups daily as well as crunches. I started at a max weight of 206 and now weigh 167 with my body fat just under 17% and dropping. At 48 I feel pretty good about what I have accomplished in the past months. I have a 5K I will be running at the end of June but it wont be any challenge at all as my daily route is a huge amount of hills so a nice flat park will be...well, a walk in the park.
The truth is at 206 I carried my weight well and no one would have called me fat...but obviously I really was as my muscle mass has increased and I have toned down to my Marine Corps weight. It was so easy to tell myself I was in bettter shape than most other people so I must not be that bad. However general society is a terrible metric to measure yourself by and I finally got off my butt and putting in the effort. I actually have a thread about it in GD. Regardless, physical fitness is a major prep in my mind. I think it is in everyone's mind, we just lie to ourselves about our real world conditioning. |
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I hate running, I'm not built for it. But I love to hike. So I go to the gym to help condition myself for harder hikes. I'm going to NH next month on a hike that will span 4 high peaks, over 13 miles and 5000 feet of elevation gain.
Last night in the gym I did 3 sets of 13 dips, 3 sets of benching 135 lbs x22 reps, 3 sets of overhead press 120lbs, 3 x 15 reps. In between the upper body "push" sets I would do a cardio exercise that focused on my quads, finishing with 15 minutes on the elliptical. One of the exercises is stepping up on a knee high box 25 times, then 25 more times leading with the opposite leg. 3 sets. Then 60 seconds of plyometric lateral step ups, 3 times. This is done on a shorter box. I'm in my 50's. I don't know why more people don't prioritize their physical health as they get older. |
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I do like the thought behind this. Fitness should be our #1 prep. Fitness is about both our health and our ability to do whatever is demanded of us.
Long ago I came to the thought that in the marathon of life my goal should be to maintain my fitness as much as I can, as long as I can. I've worked hard on it. Avoid Junk food. Mediterranean diet. We know what helps people live better and longer from studying Blue Zones. Reverse Engineering Longevity: 1. Move Naturally The world’s longest-lived people don’t pump iron, run marathons or join gyms. Instead, they live in environments that constantly nudge them into moving without thinking about it. They grow gardens and don’t have mechanical conveniences for house and yard work. View Quote Now I do pump iron and belong to a gym... but the key point of the Blue Zone study is that consistent activity over time is what gets results. My personal goal is to walk at least 5 miles a day. I swim for an hour, three times per week. I lift an hour per week. I didn't wake up one day doing all this. I got there over time and actively try not to overdo anything. Experience with injuries prove to me that overdoing it just sets me back. Strength Training for Longevity: How Just 30-60 Minutes per Week Can Lower Death Risk by Over 10%.... over 140 min/week can increase risks Murph challenge is a serious challenge, and you can't jump right into it. Emergency Rooms see folks this time every year that got in over their abilities on attempting the Murph. Challenges are important milestones. I encourage them. But even mundane consistent activity over time pays massively over the long term. |
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Murph challenge is a serious challenge, and you can't jump right into it. Emergency Rooms see folks this time every year that got in over their abilities on attempting the Murph. Challenges are important milestones. I encourage them. But even mundane consistent activity over time pays massively over the long term. View Quote Correct. I should have added the standard physical disclaimer= "check with your doctor first. If you've been just sitting around on your arse for years, jumping into something like this wouldn't be a good idea." ![]() Seriously though. For some a "challenge" may be walking that first mile, etc. And it's important to look at things like this as way points or goals as far as PT goes, definitely not starting points. Basically it's the Nike slogan- "just do it" only "it" means SOMETHING!! If you do "something" regularly your body will open up to doing more. |
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I need to lift more. 2019-2022 were good. Picked up running the past couple years.
Never was a runner in my teenage or adult like. Ran my first 5k last year, swore that was it, then signed up for a 10K this year. finally am into a decent routine. Consistency is hard. |
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I have 200lb of salt and 20lb of sodium nitrate in a picked barrel to preserve meat and vegetables (and for trade).
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The ability to take one's ideas/plans and rip them apart without bias to rebuild them into better ideas/plans.
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Sounds like the justifications of the lone wolf survivalists.
Get in shape and be prepared to leave mom, dad, wife, and kids to their fates? Going to join a militia that rules the backcountry? Physical fitness is important if you have the rest of your food, water, and housing figured out. |
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Originally Posted By radioshooter: Sounds like the justifications of the lone wolf survivalists. Get in shape and be prepared to leave mom, dad, wife, and kids to their fates? Going to join a militia that rules the backcountry? Physical fitness is important if you have the rest of your food, water, and housing figured out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By radioshooter: Sounds like the justifications of the lone wolf survivalists. Get in shape and be prepared to leave mom, dad, wife, and kids to their fates? Going to join a militia that rules the backcountry? Physical fitness is important if you have the rest of your food, water, and housing figured out. LOL. If you have to "justify" physical fitness you don't get any of this (survivalism) at all. Physical fitness is important if you have the rest of your food, water, and housing figured out I realize most newer "preppers" were raised on the Doomsday Dunskies show, which of course featured people that were heavily tilted to one side of a spectrum or towards a specific scenario. I realize that stupid frickin show helped ruin part of the survival movement. However, having actually dealt with tens of thousands of like minded people over damn near 40 years now, including tons in person, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that only a very small percentage are JUST doing this one thing or concerned with JUST one scenario. Most SERIOUS like minded people are pretty well rounded, and I don't mean in the mid section. What I mean is they have the "food, water and housing figured out" while also working on their physical fitness. It's just like this current thread about nuke preparation- the "Cuban missile crisis 2" thread. It's absolutely stupid to assume someone who has gone to the trouble of moving away from target areas, perhaps building a fallout shelter, etc. People that have gone to that extent to protect their FAMILY, do you really think their preps aren't well rounded, i.e, several years of food, homesteads, weapons and Skill at Arms (another thing sorely lacking with most "preppers") as well as skill sets, physical fitness, AE energy, an actual survival group, the list goes on and on. Are people really that stupid to think that there are individuals that solely only 100% put their eggs into one basket/scenario in planning? It was a TV show people, nothing more! No one is actually preparing for the attack of the mutant zombie polar bears! The problem is so many haven't actually MET and interacted with many other like minded people, i.e, TRAINED and sweated with them. Sitting around some BS "prepper" meeting at a conference center is not what I'm talking about here. And who do you think is going to Get in shape and be prepared to leave mom, dad, wife, and kids to their fates? Seriously? Your family can't exercise with you? As far as the "lone wolf" thing- so your saying if you are actually a part of a functioning group then physical fitness goes out the window? Get in the group and then let yourself go to hell physically? Not be able to pull your share? Even in the BS prepper fiction "savior of the subdivision" fantasy there is going to be WORK. Why? Cause survival=WORK. |
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3: And who do you think is going to Seriously? Your family can't exercise with you? As far as the "lone wolf" thing- so your saying if you are actually a part of a functioning group then physical fitness goes out the window? Get in the group and then let yourself go to hell physically? Not be able to pull your share? Even in the BS prepper fiction "savior of the subdivision" fantasy there is going to be WORK. Why? Cause survival=WORK. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lowdown3: And who do you think is going to Get in shape and be prepared to leave mom, dad, wife, and kids to their fates? Seriously? Your family can't exercise with you? As far as the "lone wolf" thing- so your saying if you are actually a part of a functioning group then physical fitness goes out the window? Get in the group and then let yourself go to hell physically? Not be able to pull your share? Even in the BS prepper fiction "savior of the subdivision" fantasy there is going to be WORK. Why? Cause survival=WORK. Yup. SHTF isn’t merely going to be hiding in the basement, munching on your stash of Cheetos. Heck, all the folks living in hurricane territory, are well familiar with the fact that there’s going to be a fair bit of a physical labor involved in just the cleanup. The folks having difficulty walking up from the basement aren’t going to be pulling their weight if any work needs to be done. And here’s encouragement to add cardio, vs the dadbod gym stronk types; aerobic exercise/cardio has actually shown to increase telomere length, not just slow down the inevitable shortening (in effect, literally reversing one of the markers of aging, at the cellular level). https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/711327 |
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3: LOL. If you have to "justify" physical fitness you don't get any of this (survivalism) at all. I realize most newer "preppers" were raised on the Doomsday Dunskies show, which of course featured people that were heavily tilted to one side of a spectrum or towards a specific scenario. I realize that stupid frickin show helped ruin part of the survival movement. However, having actually dealt with tens of thousands of like minded people over damn near 40 years now, including tons in person, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that only a very small percentage are JUST doing this one thing or concerned with JUST one scenario. Most SERIOUS like minded people are pretty well rounded, and I don't mean in the mid section. What I mean is they have the "food, water and housing figured out" while also working on their physical fitness. It's just like this current thread about nuke preparation- the "Cuban missile crisis 2" thread. It's absolutely stupid to assume someone who has gone to the trouble of moving away from target areas, perhaps building a fallout shelter, etc. People that have gone to that extent to protect their FAMILY, do you really think their preps aren't well rounded, i.e, several years of food, homesteads, weapons and Skill at Arms (another thing sorely lacking with most "preppers") as well as skill sets, physical fitness, AE energy, an actual survival group, the list goes on and on. Are people really that stupid to think that there are individuals that solely only 100% put their eggs into one basket/scenario in planning? It was a TV show people, nothing more! No one is actually preparing for the attack of the mutant zombie polar bears! The problem is so many haven't actually MET and interacted with many other like minded people, i.e, TRAINED and sweated with them. Sitting around some BS "prepper" meeting at a conference center is not what I'm talking about here. And who do you think is going to Seriously? Your family can't exercise with you? As far as the "lone wolf" thing- so your saying if you are actually a part of a functioning group then physical fitness goes out the window? Get in the group and then let yourself go to hell physically? Not be able to pull your share? Even in the BS prepper fiction "savior of the subdivision" fantasy there is going to be WORK. Why? Cause survival=WORK. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lowdown3: Originally Posted By radioshooter: Sounds like the justifications of the lone wolf survivalists. Get in shape and be prepared to leave mom, dad, wife, and kids to their fates? Going to join a militia that rules the backcountry? Physical fitness is important if you have the rest of your food, water, and housing figured out. LOL. If you have to "justify" physical fitness you don't get any of this (survivalism) at all. Physical fitness is important if you have the rest of your food, water, and housing figured out I realize most newer "preppers" were raised on the Doomsday Dunskies show, which of course featured people that were heavily tilted to one side of a spectrum or towards a specific scenario. I realize that stupid frickin show helped ruin part of the survival movement. However, having actually dealt with tens of thousands of like minded people over damn near 40 years now, including tons in person, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that only a very small percentage are JUST doing this one thing or concerned with JUST one scenario. Most SERIOUS like minded people are pretty well rounded, and I don't mean in the mid section. What I mean is they have the "food, water and housing figured out" while also working on their physical fitness. It's just like this current thread about nuke preparation- the "Cuban missile crisis 2" thread. It's absolutely stupid to assume someone who has gone to the trouble of moving away from target areas, perhaps building a fallout shelter, etc. People that have gone to that extent to protect their FAMILY, do you really think their preps aren't well rounded, i.e, several years of food, homesteads, weapons and Skill at Arms (another thing sorely lacking with most "preppers") as well as skill sets, physical fitness, AE energy, an actual survival group, the list goes on and on. Are people really that stupid to think that there are individuals that solely only 100% put their eggs into one basket/scenario in planning? It was a TV show people, nothing more! No one is actually preparing for the attack of the mutant zombie polar bears! The problem is so many haven't actually MET and interacted with many other like minded people, i.e, TRAINED and sweated with them. Sitting around some BS "prepper" meeting at a conference center is not what I'm talking about here. And who do you think is going to Get in shape and be prepared to leave mom, dad, wife, and kids to their fates? Seriously? Your family can't exercise with you? As far as the "lone wolf" thing- so your saying if you are actually a part of a functioning group then physical fitness goes out the window? Get in the group and then let yourself go to hell physically? Not be able to pull your share? Even in the BS prepper fiction "savior of the subdivision" fantasy there is going to be WORK. Why? Cause survival=WORK. Doing something, anything together is great for a family IMO. My boys are 9 and 11, we walk two miles a morning at a pretty good clip and they have 10lb bars they carry. I usually carry a 25lb to 40lb sandbag or a 25lb bar when we walk together. We do other stuff too but that varies. |
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Originally Posted By King_Mud: Doing something, anything together is great for a family IMO. My boys are 9 and 11, we walk two miles a morning at a pretty good clip and they have 10lb bars they carry. I usually carry a 25lb to 40lb sandbag or a 25lb bar when we walk together. We do other stuff too but that varies. View Quote Hell to the yeah!! One of the reasons we did the Murph again this year was because my wife really enjoyed us all doing it together as a family. Since my boy was about 6 we used to run/walk a couple miles together as a family quite regularly. We still do, but altogether is a lot less often due to jobs, work, school, etc. The boy and I do combatives together but the wife does a different exercise/workout class. So she really enjoys it when we all do stuff together. |
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The Murph is a good measurement for overall fitness, but most people don't complete the actual Murph challenge as it was intended. I have a Crossfit gym down the road from my subdivision. There's only about 40 houses in the neighborhood but its a big U shape so the crossfitters run it when they do the Murph. I told a buddy of mine who is a member at the gym that I was surprised that some of the people running/walking could do the pushup and pullups for a Murph and he responded that they substitute exercises for those and I asked what they called it and he said the Murph. I asked how it could be the Murph if they didn't complete the exercises that make up the Murph and he looked at me like I was crazy.
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Originally Posted By AL25: The Murph is a good measurement for overall fitness, but most people don't complete the actual Murph challenge as it was intended. I have a Crossfit gym down the road from my subdivision. There's only about 40 houses in the neighborhood but its a big U shape so the crossfitters run it when they do the Murph. I told a buddy of mine who is a member at the gym that I was surprised that some of the people running/walking could do the pushup and pullups for a Murph and he responded that they substitute exercises for those and I asked what they called it and he said the Murph. I asked how it could be the Murph if they didn't complete the exercises that make up the Murph and he looked at me like I was crazy. View Quote IMO, if you sub you didn't do it but I also think kipping pullups don't count either so.... |
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The pullups are the only thing I/anyone I know have to substitute on.
If you can do 100 pull ups inside of an hour along with the other stuff, your a helluva stud and I'll go on record right now with that. |
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I've been reading Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity
It indicates in CHAPTER 11: "Exercise The Most Powerful Longevity Drug" It’s obviously not a revelation that exercise is good for you; so is chicken soup if you have a sore throat. But not many people realize how profound its effects really are. Study after study has found that regular exercisers live as much as a decade longer than sedentary people. Not only do habitual runners and cyclists tend to live longer, but they stay in better health, with less morbidity from causes related to metabolic dysfunction. For those who are not habitual exercisers (yet), you’re in luck: The benefits of exercise begin with any amount of activity north of zero—even brisk walking—and go up from there. View Quote The fittest people had the lowest mortality rates—by a surprising margin. Consider this: A person who smokes has a 40 percent greater risk of all-cause mortality (that is, risk of dying at any moment) than someone who does not smoke, representing a hazard ratio or (HR) of 1.40. This study found that someone of belowaverage VO2 max for their age and sex (that is, between the 25th and 50th percentiles) is at double the risk of all-cause mortality compared to someone in the top quartile (75th to 97.6th percentiles). Thus, poor cardiorespiratory fitness carries a greater relative risk of death than smoking. View Quote That’s only the beginning. Someone in the bottom quartile of VO2 max for their age group (i.e., the least fit 25 percent) is nearly four times likelier to die than someone in the top quartile—and five times likelier to die than a person with elite-level (top 2.3 percent) VO2 max. That’s stunning. These benefits are not limited to the very fittest people either; even just climbing from the bottom 25 percent into the 25th to 50th percentile (e.g., least fit to below average) means you have cut your risk of death nearly in half, according to this study. View Quote |
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a good way to get the family or friends onboard and keeping physically fit is to do fun runs and local races. Trying to get everyone onboard to be "prepped" can be difficult but getting the Fam or friends onboard with fun runs, color runs, mud run events, challenge courses, ETC can be fun and gets everyone wanting to be fitter so they can keep up with the fun everyone else is having
things like Cola warrior while silly nonsense on the face of it has probable done more for "prepping" getting people in physical shape than anything else |
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