My cross-country GHB (Page 7 of 14)
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Originally Posted By _RAGNAR_:
for longer hikes of if I think I need faster access to the gun I've been trying this, might be what I use in an emergency, have not decided. chest rig Can you post some pics of the rig with your gun for a bit of size comparison? I had looked at something similar but didn't know there method of attachment/comfort- how do you like yours so far? |
| I never see one of those little mylar blankets in anyones kit. It would seem to me that they'd be useful. Are they not worth anything? They weigh almost nothing. I keep two in my car and carry one when I go camping. Seems to me it'd be more useful than a signaling mirror.... |
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Wow. Best BOB I have ever seen. Few questions though.
I was wondering what the scrub pad is for, is it primary to clean the filter? Do you like using the Conterra Chest Rig as a holster? Where did you buy it? Could you post your excel sheet? I think it would be really interesting. I use gmail documents to post files, its pretty easy. I thought you had some really creative ideas: being able to run everything off abandoned car batteries, your tripwire alarms and your mini water heater. I was wondering if you had any other "non standard" ideas you use for your BOV / residence that you wouldn't mind sharing. I'm building my own BOB and am using yours as a reference. Thanks for sharing! |
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Based on the discussion in this thread and various other threads, here's the kit I've assembled & keep in the back of my car at all times. It all fits in an ATS RAID with 3 accessory pouches (2x HSGI Modular EOD on sides, AITES Claymore on front). It's a little different than Ragnar's, but it's customized to my needs & AO. Thanks for the motivation, all. Clothing 2 polyester dri-fit T-shirts 2 polyester briefs 2 pair heavy wool socks 2 pair cotton socks 1 baseball cap 1 soft shell jacket 1 tan boonie 2 bandannas 1 shemagh, tan/black Food/water 5 Mountain House meals 6 Clif bars 2 Nalgene 1L bottles, empty (to be filled before departure or enroute) 1 100oz. bladder, empty (to be filled before departure or enroute) 3 20-oz bottled water, full 6 assorted herbal tea 8 flavored & unflavored oatmeal 6 envelopes Ultima (20 oz.) 1 pack Potable Aqua Plus (to be replaced with PA chlorine dioxide) Batteries & other electronics 2 batteries, CR123 8 batteries, alkaline, AAA 4 batteries, alkaline, AA 12 batteries, AA lithium 1 120VAC to 12VDC converter with cigarette lighter socket 1 12VDC cigarette lighter socket with alligator clips 1 12VDC cigarette lighter socket splitter (1 to 2) 1 12VDC cigarette lighter plug to dual USB charger 1 8” 120VAC 3-prong extension cord 1 120VAC phone charger (to be replaced with 12VDC charger) Cooking 1 Esbit stove 2 3-pack trioxane bars (9 tabs per pack, 18 total tabs) 1 600ml Snowpeak titanium cup 1 pack chewing gum 1 120VAC immersion heater 2 LMF sporks 3 unlubricated condoms 3 packs wooden matches 1 butane lighter 1 firesteel with striker Comms 1 Yaesu VX-7r with case 1 Yaesu waterproof speaker mic 1 Yaesu EDC-6 cord with PowerPole ends 1 Yaesu EDC-5 12V power cord 1 8xAA battery pack with PowerPole ends 1 Diamond RH77CA antenna 1 Maldol MH-209 micro antenna 1 Kaito micro SW/AM/FM radio Tools 1 Surefire L4 1 LED headlamp, AAA, with alkaline batteries 1 Leatherman multitool 1 folding knife 75’ tan paracord 4 chemical lightsticks 1 battery lightstick, flashing, disposable 1 sewing kit Assorted needles (including heavy-duty) Needle threaders Sharpie, superglue, safety pins Dental floss for heavy-duty thread 1 7” screwdriver, standard 1 nail clipper 2 small roll duct tape 100’ 22ga steel galvanized wire 4-way sillcock key 1 hand chainsaw, Saber Cut Personal hygiene 1 roll toilet paper 1 medium Packtowl 2 cotton washcloths with aluminum grommets 1 personal care kit bar soap with plastic holder 1 razor 1 travel toothbrush 1 travel-size toothpaste 1 travel tube after-shave 1 travel tube moisturizer 1 Gold Bond powder 1 travel size bug repellent (98% DEET) 1 travel size sunblock 1 travel size hand sanitizer 1 Chapstik with sunblock 1 stick Glide, small 1 pair medical shears 2 packs, toilet seat covers, travel 1 3-pack Tide single-use detergent First-aid kit Assorted bandages, Band-Aid type 1 tube triple antibiotic ointment Ibuprofen Tylenol Tums Moleskin 4x4 bandages Adhesive tape Assorted alcohol prep pads Assorted Povidone iodine pads Loperamide (OTC anti-diarrheal) Diphenhydramine/Benadryl) Simethicone (anti-gas) Misc. 2 compass (1 large, 1 small wrist-mount) Various index cards, pens, Sharpie 1 marine rescue whistle 2 carabiners 1 VS-17 panel, half 1 mp3 player with headphones 6 Tuff-ties 3 13-gallon white trash bags 2 personal alarms, 120db, with extra cord 2 space blankets 1 copy, pocket Declaration of Independence & US Constitution Various extra Ziplocs, gallon & quart size In vehicle but not in pack 1 set rain gear (jacket & pants) 1 fleece, ¼ zip 1 wind shirt 1 pair boots 1 pair heavy wool socks 1 pair pants, cotton 1 pair underwear, cotton 1 undershirt, cotton 1 belt, sturdy 1 beanie, fleece 1 pair gloves, fleece 1 pair glove covers, waterproof 6+ bottled water, full To be changed/added Add unbreakable mirror Add 12VDC phone charger, cigarette Add PA Plus, chlorine dioxide Add 110VAC USB charger & 5-pin USB cable Couple rolls of quarters |
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I was looking around online and came across a firefighter's evaluation of the smoke hood you carry. He basically said it won't help at all.
Review at http://www.amazon.com/Peace-of-Mind-Smoke-Hood/dp/B0007RRFP4/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=IDRC9ZNI4S4O0&colid=27RPRNPXZXGEZ Now don't get me wrong, I know you aren't expecting much of the smoke hood but just wanted to share the info I came across. Reposted below in case the link dies The Peace of Mind Evacuation Hood was brought to our attention by a fire department that was concerned about its effectiveness. After examining your brochure, specifications and Test Report J1727, the Office of the Fire Marshal has serious concerns about the suitability of this product for sale in Ontario. Your literature states that the hood was tested by ICS Laboratories Inc. in Ohio and meets the N99 standard. ICS Laboratories is not accredited by the Standards Council of Canada as a testing laboratory. The N99 standard is for particulate matter only. There is no indication in any of the test information that this hood is capable of filtering out toxic gases, including carbon monoxide. There are two test standards that could apply to emergency escape masks: ANSI/ISEA 110-2003, an American standard entitled American National Standard for Air-Purifying Respiratory Protective Smoke Escape Devices, and EN 403:1993, a European standard entitled Respiratory Protective Devices for Self-Rescue. The Peace of Mind Evacuation Hood has not been tested to either of these standards. Your specifications state that the filter has a 99.9% efficiency at 0.3 microns. Even if this is correct it is largely irrelevant. Fire deaths caused by dust inhalation are very rate. The vast majority of smoke inhalation fatalities are caused by carbon monoxide poisoning. Even if the hood did cause a reduction in the irritant effect of the dust particles this would be of little benefit. Most smoke contains some acrolein which is a very potent irritant of mucous members, including the eyes and respiratory track. The filter will have no effect on reducing the amount of acrolein a person is exposed to. Some of the information provided with the mask could leave the user with the impression that the mask provides a higher level of protection than it really does. For example, your website states that "It provides 20 minutes of breathable air allowing you precious time to evacuate". Actually, the hood does not provide any amount of breathable air because it does not remove any of the toxic gases. In a great many fires, the wearer would already have succumbed to the effects of carbon monoxide poisoning long before 20 minutes. Persons wearing the escape mask may have a false sense of security, which could result in them not quickly evacuating the fire area or even re-entering a burning building. This could result in them becoming trapped by the fire or overcome by toxic gases. There is some disparity in the information on your website as to what temperature the evacuation hood can actually withstand. Heat resistance is quoted as being anywhere from 392oF (200oC) to 480oF (249oC). Hoods that meet the standard for air-purifying respiratory protective smoke escape devices, ANSI/ISEA 110-2003, are tested using an 800oC flame. The filter material itself does not appear to have been tested for flammability. The filter is located directly in front of the wearer's mouth and nose. If it ignites, the wearer would immediately be breathing air sufficiently hot to damage his or her lungs. Everyone in the fire service knows how quickly people can be overcome by the effects of smoke. Persons may be put at greater risk of serious injury or death when they delay escape and notification to the fire department because they are wearing a device they think provides more protection than it actually does. Based on the information provided on your website, we can only conclude that the Peace of Mind Evacuation Hood does not meet any applicable standard, does not do what it is advertised as doing and may actually be putting people in danger. If you have any additional test information showing that the Peace of Mind Evacuation Hood will provide an appropriate level of protection we would be happy to review it. |
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NO ARCHIVE FOR YOU, AWESOME THREAD! |
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
At this point, I'd take one from StonerStudent
Originally Posted By Subnet:
At this point, I'd take one from StonerStudent
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Originally Posted By _RAGNAR_:
for longer hikes of if I think I need faster access to the gun I've been trying this, might be what I use in an emergency, have not decided. chest rig Are you still using that conterra chest rig when hiking- have you found a better means for carrying when hiking- Can you post some pics of the rig with your gun for a bit of size comparison? I had looked at something similar but didn't know there method of attachment/comfort- how do you like yours so far? |
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Originally Posted By georgiarebel6165:
Looks good. Only thing I'd add is that a LEO could give you a hard time about the pills not being in their prescription bottles pre-SHTF. Ex - getting pulled over for a traffic stop. Over the counter stuff shouldn't be a problem, but you could have some explaining to do if you run into a jerk.  Probably at the same time a group of illegals drive by stuffed 20 to the van.  
.02 GR unfortunately, if they aren't guilty of a felony, let them pass.... (not my rules,,, .gov's) |
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Originally Posted By _RAGNAR_:
Originally Posted By knowledgegreen:
Hey Ragnar, Excellent posts as always. When you are hiking with that pack I assume that you carry a firearm. How do you pack it? Thanks in advance for replies. for short hikes I just wear it in my hip holster as the pack is not heavy and the hip belt is not uncomfortable. for longer hikes of if I think I need faster access to the gun I've been trying this, might be what I use in an emergency, have not decided. chest rig http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a183/greghamilton/DSC06181.jpg Most the time I'm far enough from people when backpacking that I'm not really worried, the weirdo's in the woods are not usually that far our. Dangerous weirdo's are more "end of the road" types in my experience. I've been looking at this chest pack,, your thoughts on it?? pros v cons?? what do you carry..?? radio, paper, pen, flashlight, knife. go with a FSK FAK also? extra mag |
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Originally Posted By traprmike:
I've been looking at this chest pack,, your thoughts on it?? pros v cons?? what do you carry..?? radio, paper, pen, flashlight, knife. go with a FSK FAK also? extra mag It's an ok rig, there are not many good ways, if any, to carry low-pro while hiking. I carry a G19, 1 X mag, knife, pen, flashlight, led light, and carry the radio.if I want. There is still room for ID, or keys etc. Like I said in the original post on it, I still need some kind of SAR/EMS/Rescue patches for it. either that of I'll have ot put something hippy/green on it. I think I'll put velcro on the front so I can change what is on it from ID, to flag, to rescue patches etc. |
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Originally Posted By monkeyman:
I was just wondering if anyone else is still following this thread. I check it quite often and have gotten lots of good tips from it. Yes, I've been following the thread. I used this as inspiration for a BOB I made for my brother for and Xmas gift. I like the new pack. Not sure if it was mentioned but I was wondering what one it was. I'm using a med ALICE one right now and want something a bit lower profile. I like the trip wire alarms and the plug in water heater. My BOB is more of a crashing at a buddies house kind of bag and it's handy for that. The alarms are great for staying in hotels. Especially when traveling to NY. Last time I had to fly for a funeral no handgun, and all my long guns are covered under their AWB, so having an alarm was nice. |
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Here is something to consider. I picked up some collapsible (Rumrunner) plastic flasks for the last cruise my wife and I went on. They are intended to carry booze on board a ship or into a stadium, concert etc and come in three sizes. 8, 16 & 32 oz. While they worked well for that we also used the larger ones to carry water with us on shore excursions. The nice thing is that they role/fold up small and can be brought out when needed. I now keep a couple of the 32 oz ones in my everyday carry bag.
http://www.rumrunnerflasks.com/flasks.aspx 
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Sitting around this afternoon got me reading through this thread and got me thinking about some of the issues here. In particular, I happened across an article in a newspaper recently about a class in urban escape and evasion that some company has been putting on around the country. Basically it is a "how to get out of a big city if the SHTF" class for yuppies. Some of the interesting things they teach however is how to pick locks, how to escape/pick handcuffs, how to blend into the area you are in or traveling through. Conceptually, it fits into the GHB theme of this thread.
This company has some video up on youtube concerning this class though they don't give away much info. The link to the class is below and is expensive. However, it might spur some thought about some of the issues one would face if one had to walk out of a big city during a crisis. BTW, I have nothing to do with this company, nor have I taken the class, nor do I intend to . http://www.onpointtactical.com/Enroll.aspx?id=115 Just thought I would throw it out and see if anyone is interested in keeping this thread alive. |
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Originally Posted By bcw107:
I've seen you mention olive oil several times. What exactly would you do with it? Take it like a castor oil? Mix with food?
as mentioned olive oil is the highest calorie to weight ratio there is. I think 320cals per ounce. Just drink an ounce every once in a while, no need to mix with anything. of course you can add it to food. |
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Originally Posted By _RAGNAR_:
Originally Posted By bcw107:
I've seen you mention olive oil several times. What exactly would you do with it? Take it like a castor oil? Mix with food?
as mentioned olive oil is the highest calorie to weight ratio there is. I think 320cals per ounce. Just drink an ounce every once in a while, no need to mix with anything. of course you can add it to food. some olive oil and bread goes a REALLY long way when you need calories. I've went a week before living off Ficcoia, olive oil, and tomatoes.. |
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Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night, Nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Psalms 91:5
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Here is something to consider. I picked up some collapsible (Rumrunner) plastic flasks for the last cruise my wife and I went on. They are intended to carry booze on board a ship or into a stadium, concert etc and come in three sizes. 8, 16 & 32 oz. While they worked well for that we also used the larger ones to carry water with us on shore excursions. The nice thing is that they role/fold up small and can be brought out when needed. I now keep a couple of the 32 oz ones in my everyday carry bag. Earlier I talk about using a platypus bladder. I choose it as the whole bottom opens and it can be used as a dry bag for clothes and such. ( I keep clothes packed in it by default) |