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9/21/2024 10:26:55 PM EDT
Anyone have hands on experience with the Hammereli Force rifles?  I find them intriguing. The few videos online about it don't tell me what I want to know; 50 yard targets.  Everyone is doing 100 yard targets, or 50 yard targets with junk ammo.  

If anyone has one, let me know how it is with CCI Standard and Lapua Center-X (or TRUE match ammo...if it costs less than $10 per box, I'm not interested.
9/21/2024 11:12:00 PM EDT
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A bit of info here:

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/hammerli-b1.1296657/
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9/22/2024 12:46:37 PM EDT
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We've had a few threads here and they don't get much traction.
BikerNut:
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9/22/2024 1:35:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DrMark:
A bit of info here:

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/threads/hammerli-b1.1296657/
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That's great info; oddly, that thread didn't show up when I searched for "hammerli" in that forum.  From everything I am seeing, they aren't very good. Even with Lapua Center-X, they won't do under 1/2" groups @ 50yards.  My Bergara BMR shoots in the high 0.3's with Lapua Center-X @ 50, and well under 1" at 100.  

I really want to SBR a Summit action, but they need to make a takedown version of it first.
9/22/2024 3:40:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AT-ST83:


That's great info; oddly, that thread didn't show up when I searched for "hammerli" in that forum.  From everything I am seeing, they aren't very good. Even with Lapua Center-X, they won't do under 1/2" groups @ 50yards.  My Bergara BMR shoots in the high 0.3's with Lapua Center-X @ 50, and well under 1" at 100.  

I really want to SBR a Summit action, but they need to make a takedown version of it first.
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I wouldn’t mess with the Hammerli since it sounds like you have a good shooting bolt gun.

How many shots in your groups?

My IBI barreled B14r does .339 with Sk rifle match (5 shot groups) but my BMR steel barrel will not break into .4’s (5 shot groups) with SK, Eley Tennex or with any other ammo that I have on hand.  I haven’t tried Center X as I have never caught it in stock.
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9/23/2024 7:56:45 PM EDT
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5 shot groups.  My BMR really is a shooter...it's only about 15%-20% less accurate than my B14R.


I like to shoot 6x5 targets, 6 groups with 5 shots each.

From my ammo testing to see what the rifle liked;
Lapua Center-X  averaged 0.36"
SK Std+ averaged 0.46"
RWS Target averaged 0.58"
CCI Clean averaged 0.75"
CCI Standard averaged 0.75"
9/23/2024 8:25:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AT-ST83:
5 shot groups.  My BMR really is a shooter...it's only about 15%-20% less accurate than my B14R.


I like to shoot 6x5 targets, 6 groups with 5 shots each.

From my ammo testing to see what the rifle liked;
Lapua Center-X  averaged 0.36"
SK Std+ averaged 0.46"
RWS Target averaged 0.58"
CCI Clean averaged 0.75"
CCI Standard averaged 0.75"
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Very nice!  I think you have convinced me that I need to pick up some Center X whenever it comes back in stock.  Those are great groups and really good shooting!
Shooting!
9/24/2024 12:42:53 AM EDT
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I'm lucky geographically; I live about 20 minutes from the Lapua Rimfire Performance Center in Mesa AZ.  Get your rifle tested against all the Lapua Center X lots available, then you can buy a few thousand rounds of the same lot. I've got 4,760 rounds left.
8/9/2025 7:14:42 PM EDT
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WALTHER HAMMERLI ARMS FORCE B1 .22LR 16.1" On Sale $349
8/10/2025 12:20:31 AM EDT
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Saw the PSA email and that's tempting. Are there barrels available? That's half the price of the Summit action.
BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles.

People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird.
12/25/2025 9:29:31 PM EDT
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It's a great rifle if you dont value accuracy at all. I tried all kinds of ammo and it was the most inconsistent rimfire I have ever worked with.

Put a Ruger comp trigger and several Lapua and Sk offerings with no luck.
It's best day was the day it left.


12/25/2025 9:48:33 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Hammerli-Force-B1-inbound-smack-some-knowledge-on-me/11-559297/
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3/3/2026 12:23:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Duke45:
It's a great rifle if you dont value accuracy at all. I tried all kinds of ammo and it was the most inconsistent rimfire I have ever worked with.

Put a Ruger comp trigger and several Lapua and Sk offerings with no luck.
It's best day was the day it left.


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Thank you all for posting...you've just saved me a few hundred bux.  I was so pumped up getting a straight pull rifle to play with but after reading the reviews and info here, I'll pass on the Hammerli B1