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AR15.COM
12/23/2018 7:07:18 PM EDT
Dead on at 25 yards. 8 inches high at 100 yards.
My scope only has like 3 clicks of downward adjustment.
It tried it with my Silencerco Omega, and it dropped it two inches.Attached File


Rifle: Bergara B14 HMR 6.5 Creedmoor
Scope: Steiner T5xi 5-25x
Ammo: Hornady American Gunner 140 gr
Scope base: Nightforce 20 MOA
Scope rings: Steiner T series low .885”
AEKDB
12/23/2018 8:40:29 PM EDT
[#1]
That scope have a zero stop? Probably hitting it as you shouldn't have a zeroing issue with that set up.
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12/23/2018 8:41:12 PM EDT
[#2]
Your scope only has 3 clicks of adjustment left, before you put on the can?
12/23/2018 8:43:45 PM EDT
[#3]
Possibly a stupid question... is it possible you have the scope mount on backwards?
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12/23/2018 8:44:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Check the manual. You may be at the zero stop.

manual

Here is a part of the manual.

If the Desired Zero is Below the Zero Stop Location
1. Use the hex wrench supplied with the scope to loosen
the set screws on the elevation adjustment knob
located just under the top of the knob.
2. Turn the knob in the direction of UP as indicated on
your elevation knob slightly more than the number
of mils needed to achieve zero. The knob should free
spin without any click engagement.
3. Retighten the set screws. Adjust the elevation down
the required amount.
4. Once you have zeroed and the elevation adjustment
is complete, once again loosen the two set screws and
reset the knob to “0”.
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12/23/2018 9:57:50 PM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By Seanquigley:
Your scope only has 3 clicks of adjustment left, before you put on the can?
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No, three clicks down.
AEKDB
12/23/2018 9:58:22 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer_Shootist:
Check the manual. You may be at the zero stop.

manual

Here is a part of the manual.

If the Desired Zero is Below the Zero Stop Location
1. Use the hex wrench supplied with the scope to loosen
the set screws on the elevation adjustment knob
located just under the top of the knob.
2. Turn the knob in the direction of UP as indicated on
your elevation knob slightly more than the number
of mils needed to achieve zero. The knob should free
spin without any click engagement.
3. Retighten the set screws. Adjust the elevation down
the required amount.
4. Once you have zeroed and the elevation adjustment
is complete, once again loosen the two set screws and
reset the knob to “0”.
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That’s probably what it is. Thanks.
AEKDB
12/23/2018 9:59:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hunter8793][Edited] [#7]
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Originally Posted By DasRonin:
Possibly a stupid question... is it possible you have the scope mount on backwards?
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Isn’t it supposed to cant down in the front? That is how I have it.
AEKDB
12/23/2018 10:38:03 PM EDT
[#8]
The scope manual says I need a 45 MOA base...
AEKDB
12/23/2018 10:42:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Reorx][Edited] [#9]
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Originally Posted By Hunter8793:
Isn’t it supposed to cant down in the front? That is how I have it.
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Originally Posted By Hunter8793:
Originally Posted By DasRonin:
Possibly a stupid question... is it possible you have the scope mount on backwards?
Isn’t it supposed to cant down in the front? That is how I have it.
The screw pattern won't let you put the base on backwards.

Originally Posted By Hunter8793:
The scope manual says I need a 45 MOA base...
A 45 moa base will only make your POI higher (compared to the 20 mao base).
12/23/2018 11:25:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Reorx:
The screw pattern won't let you put the base on backwards.

A 45 moa base will only make your POI higher (compared to the 20 mao base).
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Originally Posted By Reorx:
Originally Posted By Hunter8793:
Originally Posted By DasRonin:
Possibly a stupid question... is it possible you have the scope mount on backwards?
Isn’t it supposed to cant down in the front? That is how I have it.
The screw pattern won't let you put the base on backwards.

Originally Posted By Hunter8793:
The scope manual says I need a 45 MOA base...
A 45 moa base will only make your POI higher (compared to the 20 mao base).
So what do I do? Zero it at 200 or 300? Hold under 8 inches if I am going to shoot a deer at 100 yards?
AEKDB
12/24/2018 1:12:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunter8793:

So what do I do? Zero it at 200 or 300?
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No, don't zero at 200 or 300.  I am tending toward the idea that there is a missing ingredient - you should be able to zero @100 yards with a 20 moa base.  The zero stop theory seems like a good answer it you have a zero stop.  Have you checked this???  If not, this is the first place to look.

I assume you aren't using a canted 1 piece mount - right?  I would also check the rings to be sure everything seems well seated and tight...  I would initially zero without the can at 100 yards.  If you have a 0 moa base, you might try that to see if it'll improve your situation.
12/26/2018 10:44:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Reorx:
No, don't zero at 200 or 300.  I am tending toward the idea that there is a missing ingredient - you should be able to zero @100 yards with a 20 moa base.  The zero stop theory seems like a good answer it you have a zero stop.  Have you checked this???  If not, this is the first place to look.

I assume you aren't using a canted 1 piece mount - right?  I would also check the rings to be sure everything seems well seated and tight...  I would initially zero without the can at 100 yards.  If you have a 0 moa base, you might try that to see if it'll improve your situation.
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I ordered a 0 moa base. Everything is tight and torqued to spec.

I tried messing with the zero stop. I don’t think it can go down anymore. The manual says it only has .3mils of downward movement lol.

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AEKDB
12/26/2018 10:53:01 AM EDT
[#13]
That is .3 under zero is where the stop hits. My Razor has .5 mils below the zero mark. That does not mean there is no more elevation below.

You have a lot of elevation in the scope and will be able to zero at 100 with the set up you have but you need to learn how to work your scope.
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12/26/2018 10:59:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
That is .3 under zero is where the stop hits. My Razor has .5 mils below the zero mark. That does not mean there is no more elevation below.

You have a lot of elevation in the scope and will be able to zero at 100 with the set up you have but you need to learn how to work your scope.
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Ok thanks.
AEKDB
12/26/2018 11:36:12 AM EDT
[#15]
OP watch this video, stop its at exactly 1:55 into it..see the set screws in the turret knob? that will be how you set your sera stop..so right now you have no more "down" adjustments..set the. scopes turret to "zero" on the turret, loosen those set screws on the turret, then either the turret lifts straight off or it will turn freely in place, if it lifts off turn it 1 full turn and drop it back on and snug up the screws.. if it turns freely then turn it. in the "up" direction once full turn and retighten the screws..now the internals should be able to be brought down further then they could before..once you have the scope zeroed on target do the same thing again except align the "zero" mark on the knob with the zero line on the housing without moving thee actual turret adjustment..snug up your set screws and recheck every 5-10 rounds until you are sure its tight and not going to work loose...



This one may well be very similar too yours as well..
Steiner Military 5-25x56 - Zeroing elevation knob - turret demo
12/26/2018 12:46:22 PM EDT
[#16]
Thank you!
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