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2/3/2017 10:34:38 AM EDT
I've been thinkining about this for a while, but now I'm building a house out in the country where emergency medical help will be at least 20 minutes away, so I'd like to get trained and equipped on basic trauma treatment. I'm not looking for anything complicated that should be left for medical professionals, just basic things that should be done until EMTs arrive.

16 years ago when I was in the navy, I was in the forward medical locker as my general quarters station for a year. We were trained on things like wound bandaging, tourniqueting, CPR, etc., i.e. very basic stop the bleeding treatments that bought enough time until the doctors and corpsman could help that person. Unfortunately I forgot most of it and was wondering where I could get training like that as a civilian.

I also have no idea what supplies I should have in my home medical kit, so I need something that could advise me on that too.
2/3/2017 11:10:13 AM EDT
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Contact you local Red Cross.  They offer classes on First Aid/CPR, usually for a minimal fee.  
There are online training classes you can take as well, but, in my opinion, hands-on in a classroom is a much better learning environment.
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2/3/2017 9:11:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Dark angel medical does a great class.  It's spendy but a great class.
2/4/2017 1:10:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Repairman_Jack:
Contact you local Red Cross.  They offer classes on First Aid/CPR, usually for a minimal fee.  
There are online training classes you can take as well, but, in my opinion, hands-on in a classroom is a much better learning environment.
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When I think of term "first aid", the cheap kits with a few bandaids and alcohol wipes come to mind. Is what I described from my time in the Navy (bandaging life threatening injuries) classified as first aid and does the Red Cross training cover that?
2/4/2017 10:12:11 PM EDT
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If you're ever up in AZ I'll show you the basics of Trauma no charge. To be fair, knowing how to apply TQs, pack wounds, apply chest seals, needle thoracentesis, securing an airway (mostly with positioning) and then using a BVM would put you above the average EMT-B. All of this is pretty easy to do as well. Otherwise, look into some courses that provide a basic MARCH assessment. I like the course Independence Training does for this, but they mostly operate out of AZ.

Basic supplies for MARCH:

M- 2x CAT Gen 7 Tourniquets, 2x hemostatic gauze, 2x Z-fold kerlex
A- NPA, possibly a supraglottic airway such as a King LT or an I-gel. The Igel would be the easiest as its failure rate is low, it is easy to use and usually only doesn't work well in extreme cold or very hot climates.
R- BVM, Chest seals
C and H are limited by your scope, for the average person, a blanket and a beanie do fine for this.
3/25/2017 10:27:00 PM EDT
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http://lonestarmedics.com/lsm-schedule/
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4/18/2017 11:35:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bcw107:
http://lonestarmedics.com/lsm-schedule/
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^^ That right there.

If you're in the DFW area, try to make the 2-day Medic 1 class.  Believe he usually runs 'em twice a year in the spring and fall.  He just had one a couple of weeks ago, so I'm guessing there won't be another until the Oct/Nov timeframe.
4/19/2017 2:35:20 PM EDT
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I'm looking for essentially the same thing as OP. I'm in SE Ohio. Any suggestions?
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5/31/2017 2:45:16 PM EDT
[#8]
see if your local FD or EMS service is pro-community and will sit down and give you some training


we do CPR and basic first aid classes for our community if they request them, if your guys are national registry and do a little formal paperwork, they can teach any level under what they are certified to do.

basic first aid sounds very weak, but in our situations we teach more from experience than straight from a book, we cover what we are suppose to and throw in a few things...lots of hemostatic treatment and blunt trauma
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6/2/2017 2:31:57 PM EDT
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6/14/2017 6:59:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RocketmanOU:
I'm looking for essentially the same thing as OP. I'm in SE Ohio. Any suggestions?
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active response training and TDI in ohio both have tac-med first aid classes that are well thought of.  if you have a link to the LE community OTOA is a great resource.  I'm in SW ohio but might be albe to put you in touch with some folks here.
6/14/2017 8:00:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bulldawg:
^^ That right there.

If you're in the DFW area, try to make the 2-day Medic 1 class.  Believe he usually runs 'em twice a year in the spring and fall.  He just had one a couple of weeks ago, so I'm guessing there won't be another until the Oct/Nov timeframe.
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Originally Posted By bcw107:
http://lonestarmedics.com/lsm-schedule/
^^ That right there.

If you're in the DFW area, try to make the 2-day Medic 1 class.  Believe he usually runs 'em twice a year in the spring and fall.  He just had one a couple of weeks ago, so I'm guessing there won't be another until the Oct/Nov timeframe.
He also travels. He's been working in NY recently.
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10/15/2017 12:20:28 PM EDT
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Wanted to give this a bump post-Vegas.  I have had the same thoughts: what can I do after the shooting stops?  As mentioned, the Red Cross offers basic First Aid and CPR, but where can get enough training to at least help the victim of a shooting until the professionals arrive?

Thanks,

JDG
10/16/2017 12:39:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Doublegun:
Wanted to give this a bump post-Vegas.  I have had the same thoughts: what can I do after the shooting stops?  As mentioned, the Red Cross offers basic First Aid and CPR, but where can get enough training to at least help the victim of a shooting until the professionals arrive?

Thanks,

JDG
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The answer to your question - how can an otherwise medically lay person provide life-saving care to a victim of a gunshot wound - is tourniquet application.  An adult can exsanguinate from an extremity arterial injury in ~4 minutes.  In the Aurora, CO theater shooting, police didn't make first contact with victims until 5-7 minutes had already passed.  The Hartford Consensus was developed a few years ago by several physicians to address this.  It is aimed at nation-wide education about tourniquet use and application and distributing them similar to how there AEDs in public places.  Google "stop the bleeding" and see if they have any classes in your area.  Or just buy some tourniquets and get on youtube.  If a 5th grader can return-demonstrate to me proper application with less than 5 minutes of instruction, you can too.
10/16/2017 12:44:37 AM EDT
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In on this thread.


I'm debating becoming a certified EMT just for this.


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10/16/2017 1:08:22 AM EDT
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bleedingcontrol.org

I teach EMTs and that’s a good class for anyone that doesn’t stay up on bleeding control techniques, I use it for some CEUs for EMT/Paramedic.
10/16/2017 1:08:37 AM EDT
[#16]
Breathing
Bleeding
Shock

Now you have the basics. Everything else requires quite a bit more.
10/22/2017 9:06:53 PM EDT
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Just a follow-up, I took the Dark Angel DART course this weekend, and it was worth every penny. Very well done, and I'm rehashing my kits now that I know what I ought to have in them and why. I highly recommend the course.
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