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I watched a bunch of videos on YouTube and built these. I plan to attach recycled cardboard to them with sheet-rock screws, then staple paper targets to them. 4' tall, 2' wide. Legs are 4' long to help them stay upright in high wind. If it gets shot up, all that should have to be replaced are the uprights. All I have left to do is paint them.  Take out the bolt, pull out the uprights, and it lays flat in the bed of the truck. 
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We used to use a similar pattern for movable targets using 2x6's for base, then 2x4 for uprights. The lighter wood often gets moved around in wind. You can staple cardboard backers also with 3/4 staples, you don't need to screw them. The screws will be replaceable yes, but the uprights will go to crap in fairly short order usually if left outside anyway. A good cardboard backer will last a good while outside. Until they get really shot up, we leave ours on the target racks and just pull the paper targets every time and replace the paper. Certain drills like contact shots, close contact work, tends to destroy the backers. Just plan your training around that knowing that the last drills will be those and the backers will be destroyed afterwards. |
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Good point, those'll be perfect for retention shooting! I wonder, if stapling paper to cardboard, would it need to be done with a normal office stapler, onhedges, so that the staple grabs the cardboard? I'd think a normal staples from a staple gun wouldn't have enough purchase into the cardboard to hold for long, especially in the damnable wind. But packing tape with a tape gun would work too. |
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Thanks to all for the great feedbackl! Staples versus wood screws. Check. Save the up-close stuff for late in the session. Check. I'll mount some cardboard (with staples) and see what happens when I staple something to it with a staple gun. If I don't like it, packing tape is a great idea. Fast, secure, and the edges can be taped in high wind to keep it from tearing off. The plan has always been to load up the legs with something, rocks, logs, whatever is nearby and handy, to help resist the wind. If they won't stay up in the wind, I'll build some more with 2x6's. I'll be storing them inside ... yet another good reason for removable legs ... but I'll also be painting them. A primer coat and then one coat of exterior latex. I plan to use them in Sun, rain, snow, hail, or whatever else happens to fall out of the sky at an informal outdoor range. Except maybe an asteroid. I'll probably leave if an asteroid looks like it's going to drop on the range while I'm shooting. I have adopted a personal policy about not avoiding bad weather during training sessions. Self defense and home defense situations can come at any time in any weather and the more I train in bad weather, the more skilled I will be in bad weather. That having been said, I must admit that my policy has yet to be tested in the outdoors since I last hunted in the 1990's. I've shot in a hundred-degree indoor range when the air conditioning went out and in 40 degree weather when the heat went out but that's hardly the same as what can be experienced outdoors. Especially here in the GPNW. The biggest risk to the uprights will be when I put one of them out at 300 yards and start blasting at it ...  |
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Originally Posted By -Shaggs-: Looks good OP. I just built one myself but went the pvc route. Everything is glued except the upright section. So I can just pop that apart and toss it in the back of my truck. https://i.imgur.com/nLvhep0.jpeg That's cool! And clever. Nicely done. |
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola: Brother, your attitude toward the weather is exactly as it should be! I laugh at fair-weather shooters. FYI, I've shot my cardboard targets at ZERO meters extensively, it doesn't really destroy them, just shows powder burns around the bullet holes. Thank you, Brother! I take that as high praise. |
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola: Good point, those'll be perfect for retention shooting! I wonder, if stapling paper to cardboard, would it need to be done with a normal office stapler, onhedges, so that the staple grabs the cardboard? I'd think a normal staples from a staple gun wouldn't have enough purchase into the cardboard to hold for long, especially in the damnable wind. But packing tape with a tape gun would work too. The squeeze type construction staplers work fine for cardboard to paper. Like I mentioned before, we keep cardboard backers up year round, changing them out only 2-3 times a year. And they are often wet when we staple paper to them. We have a friend (the Max Velocity crew) we host for classes at our range that uses the chipboard type green military backers. They last even longer than the cardboard backers. Usually I just buy whatever I can find on sale/cheapest at LE targets. |
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Originally Posted By -Shaggs-: Looks good OP. I just built one myself but went the pvc route. Everything is glued except the upright section. So I can just pop that apart and toss it in the back of my truck. https://i.imgur.com/nLvhep0.jpeg That AZ desert wind doesn't blow those over? |
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It's tough being a target stand, baby! This is why the uprights are designed to be easily-replaceable. Replacing two uprights consist of cutting a $3.00 2x3 in half, drilling a hole in the bottom of each half and installing it. Though, while these have sustained damage, they're still quite serviceable. Check out all the spall and frag damage on the edges. For several hours, they were set up with a hanging gong in between them and this is the result. Spall is real.      
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3: That AZ desert wind doesn't blow those over? Its got to be windy for that, ha. You could always put something heavy on the base. I actually haven't had a change to test it yet. Life, work, and now we have the summer fire ban, so no desert shooting in my area til October. |
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Originally Posted By dfd277: nice stands. Instead of stapling the targets try spray glue its a game changer I will do that. Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By Sinister: Firewood crib stacking hardware is pretty handy for building 2x4 frames: https://mobileimages.lowes.com/productimages/66a0878d-1653-44db-8102-5fed105aadc8/48290485.jpg?size=pdhism "It's pretty but can it fight?" Just kidding. That looks petty easy. Thanks! |
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We use something very similar at the range. Not quite as refined. The base is 2x4s cut to 24" and held together by deck screws. Uprights are 1x2s cut to whatever length you need. The large clips hold the carboard to the uprights. On breezy days we may have to stack some weight on the base to keep it from tipping over. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By cb4017: We use something very similar at the range. Not quite as refined. The base is 2x4s cut to 24" and held together by deck screws. Uprights are 1x2s cut to whatever length you need. The large clips hold the carboard to the uprights. On breezy days we may have to stack some weight on the base to keep it from tipping over. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45352/20240614_103107__Medium__jpg-3241188.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45352/20240614_103134__Medium__jpg-3241190.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45352/20240614_103119__Medium__jpg-3241191.JPG Looks good to me! :) |
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