Good video

Just watched the other night, great video Jeff.

Thanks!

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Nice!

Great video, Jeff. I didn’t want to take the time for the 40 minutes but you sucked me immediately. 😁

I trained only on the 4 man stack my entire career but never felt comfortable about leaving the hall/rear unprotected. Now I know better- thanks.

40 minutes of Power!

Great info.

Thanks for sharing!

Jeff,

First of all, thank you for doing this video.  It's critically important to capture both the lessons learned and the whys.  

In Stormtroop Tactics, Bruce Gudmundsson describes how in WWI the Germans did a excellent job of retraining their entire Army based on lessons learned during the conflict.  That is one thing I don't always see being done effectively in the American military.  Tactics paid for in blood and treasure are too easily lost.  I am a strong believer in all the words of the second amendment and the truth is that lessons are better retained when you have still serving soldiers in a militia with 30 or 40+ years military experience.

Interesting term "Depressed muzzle".   I think for a lot of years there has been a struggle to adequately describe effective muzzle low positions.  I use the term "low ready" with students but have to do demonstrations, discussions, and timed exercises to emphasize to students what optimal looks like.  I can remember shooting the Army Combat Pistol Qualification and a sergeant telling me to get my pistol muzzle lower so I can see potential threats as they pop up... when my muzzle was already low enough to do so.  It just would have cost me time to go lower.  I agree that there are a lot of people out there who don't really understand what low enough is.

I don't really understand the animosity against certain methods like strong walling.  It should be obvious to anyone who has experience going up against a living, breathing, thinking opponents that even "the best" tactic can rapidly turn into the worst tactic if it is predictable.  Strong walling seems to have a lot of positive attributes to me.

John Boyd's work shows that not just OODA loop components such as rapid seeing, understanding, and decision making are hugely important... but also variety to increase unpredictability and surprise (Patterns of Conflict).  In The Last Hundred Yards HJ Poole suggests that having 4 or 5 "plays" is really important.

It would seem obvious that seizing and controlling hallway spaces is helpful if you plan to clear an entire structure.  Why abandon the hallway and leave yourself open or fight for the same ground over and over again?

Also, thanks for going into more description on the step out method

The muzzle up position is perhaps the most controversial part.  I think it would need further discussion.

For one, how much experience would be required to run your rifle muzzle next to another team member's head?  Do you think the average police patrol officer would be able to safely do so?  In a stack even the muzzle blast from a near miss AD could be a serious problem in the muzzle up position.

For another, to shoot fast you have to see and understand quickly.  I don't do muzzle up with a pistol, in part, because research shows that muzzle up leads to more bad decisions than muzzle down.  With a rifle the problem is worse than a pistol.  See this:

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From the image it looks very difficult to see and understand quickly with that amount metal in front of your eyes.

For those of us who have not trained CQB at DARC or have not had extensive CBQ combat experience, more explanation would be helpful to make your point.

Side note, Jen Psaki says it is a war crime to use thermobaric weapons.

I'm glad to know that idiots in Washington aren't preventing our military from using thermobaric weapons, which seem to be very effective: Ukrainian Defense forces use thermobaric grenades.

Appreciate all the feed back, metal in front of your eyes or rifle blocking your vision is not really a thing. Il prove it, hold up a rifle in the High ready and walk through your house.Is it really obscuring anything? Its a non issue.

Tried it.  It's true that you have 2 eyes and your brain adjusts to an extent.  But the research shows that gives some false confidence.

Has DARC or anyone else done decision making studies like this? New study reveals one way police officers can reduce shooting errors {with pistols} (2020)





There are several studies that show essentially the same thing.

Paul Howe has done a fair amount of discussion on the topic, but this is his most recent.  It includes combat footage from the IDF of what actually happens with high port:

John Hearne of Two pillars training discussed the results of several studies of decision making with high vs low ready at TACON 2024.  This is a photo of the side by side comparisons (wish the photo came out a little better, but the results are clear, police make more than twice the number of errors when they use high ready): Attached File

Roger, saw this posted elsewhere, and very much appreciateit, very informative.

Strongwalling & high ready for the win.

ETA: I timed myself on up-drills at 5 yards, did some from low ready & high ready, and surprisingly it's a wash.

She is a paid political liar, as the U.S. military also uses thermobarics

Its a older video, my thoughts/point of view on merits of high vs low ready.