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Posted: 10/29/2021 4:44:37 PM EDT
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PSA addresses problems noted by Garand Thumb.
 GARAND THUMB'S PSA AK-74 TEST RESULTS |
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Posted: 10/30/2021 11:16:10 AM EDT
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Since KUSA was previously mentioned, this is pertinent to the conversation...
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/KUSA-Finally-releases-KR-103SFS-for-sale/64-168525/ This is an EXCELLENT option, and I'd consider this an option over a PSA AK any day. |
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Posted: 10/30/2021 11:26:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since KUSA was previously mentioned, this is pertinent to the conversation... https://www.ar15.com/forums/ak-47/KUSA-Finally-releases-KR-103SFS-for-sale/64-168525/ This is an EXCELLENT option, and I'd consider this an option over a PSA AK any day. Nice. This makes the KUSA the only true-ish 103 on the market. At least as far as I know. The Riley and PSA both have a 90° gas block and -74 front sight assembly but are basically AKM rifles with modern front end parts. |
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Posted: 10/31/2021 11:48:27 AM EDT
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Get the kusa.
I'm hearing that the new ones are chf and I don't know if they serialized the bolts but those are the only complaints I heard besides prices. |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 8:08:03 AM EDT
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Some pictures posted over on AK Forum Dot Net of the PSA 103. As we know, the rifle is technically not a 103 but rather an AKM with some 103-style parts. Not really a 103 at all but does that matter? I guess as long as the rifle is reliable, durable and reasonably accurate they can call it whatever they want...
    Forged bolt and trunnion:       So based on what I've seen from the PSA vs the Kalashnikov USA there is no parts commonality. At least not the metal bits. Maybe the furniture comes from the same source? The PSA hinge is 4.5mm and my guess would be it is the same stuff as sold by K-VAR. |
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Posted: 11/13/2021 5:30:41 PM EDT
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^^^Holy crap, got enough goo slathered on the bolt and carrier there?
Ak's don't really need all that, at least mine don't. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 10:47:47 AM EDT
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So I guess the next point of interest should include a discussion on modern AK accessories.
There's a thread here already about Zenitco on a PSA. Sounds like the PSA is more Bulgarian than Russian. Zenitco may require more fitting as a result. This may or may not be the case with KUSA 103s since they appear to be more of a true Russian pattern. Not finding much info on KUSA vs Zenitco other than the Dissident Arms package. So what about other accessory manufacturers like Sureshot? The Mk 3 chassis is pretty interesting although I think I'd prefer something like the B-33 top cover since it still allows the bolt and carrier to be accessed without tools. As I understand the SAG Mk 3 it takes some disassembly to get into the guts of the rifle. Other options include the dogleg top cover from Texas and stuff like SLR Rifle Works and RS Regulate for handguard set-ups. Speaking of RS Regulate and SLR; it would be nifty to see one or both of these companies making a forend that is compatible with the B-33 top cover. |
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Posted: 11/14/2021 6:25:09 PM EDT
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The DPMS Anvil joins the Polar Bear Club!
 Waterboarding DPMS AK "Anvil"... |
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Posted: 11/17/2021 9:31:36 PM EDT
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PSA AK-103 trunnion pics:
 
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Posted: 11/18/2021 12:29:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I guess the next point of interest should include a discussion on modern AK accessories. There's a thread here already about Zenitco on a PSA. Sounds like the PSA is more Bulgarian than Russian. Zenitco may require more fitting as a result. This may or may not be the case with KUSA 103s since they appear to be more of a true Russian pattern. Not finding much info on KUSA vs Zenitco other than the Dissident Arms package. So what about other accessory manufacturers like Sureshot? The Mk 3 chassis is pretty interesting although I think I'd prefer something like the B-33 top cover since it still allows the bolt and carrier to be accessed without tools. As I understand the SAG Mk 3 it takes some disassembly to get into the guts of the rifle. Other options include the dogleg top cover from Texas and stuff like SLR Rifle Works and RS Regulate for handguard set-ups. Speaking of RS Regulate and SLR; it would be nifty to see one or both of these companies making a forend that is compatible with the B-33 top cover. This is more or less correct. The PSA 103 is comparable to an SLR-107 and is basically an AKM rifle with many AK-74 family features, most of which are external features that are pretty obvious, but internally the PSA is closer to an AKM. The K-USA 103 is comparable to an SGL-21 and is based on the 100 series rifles, themselves being an evolutionary design of the AK-74 (and directly 74M) but chambered in 7.62x39. Internally the K-USA 103 is closer to an AK-74 and parts like the BCG would not interchange with the PSA 103. The main thing the 100 series rifles have going for them is the internals are lighter, and as a result the rifle may balance better in stock form. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 12:30:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryBolt camming wear-in that will eventually cease, is way more common on AKs than most people realize, and does not affect headspace. |
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Posted: 11/20/2021 11:25:39 AM EDT
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Close-up photos at a reported 10K rounds fired:
 10 thousand rounds update psa ak103 high def pictures of any abnormal wear. What do you guys think? |
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Posted: 11/20/2021 1:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Toolcraft’s own website doesn’t say anything about military contracts. If they did supply any, it must have been a relatively small run of replacement parts or foreign military aid since the BCGs supplied with rifles were and are made in house by Colt and FN respectively. Toolcraft is the OEM for low end AR-15 manufacturers like PSA, and their bolts often break at low round counts. Hold on......you are repeatedly mentioning your poor quality Toolcraft "examples and sources" then proclaim that Colt makes something in-house???????????? Then......... go on to double down against an established Industry guy, stating that he doesn't know what he's talking about??!!  Guy, you lit the dumpster fire in this thread and several knowledgeable people put it out, at what point do you just bow out? It's embarrassing to witness. If you have a personal beef with Toolcraft (or any manufacturer) or how the Gov't Procurement Chain works, you might want to express that directly before taking a thread off on an unneeded tangent. S/F Al |
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Posted: 11/20/2021 5:17:13 PM EDT
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He removed all his post's. Good!
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Posted: 11/21/2021 12:08:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hold on......you are repeatedly mentioning your poor quality Toolcraft "examples and sources" then proclaim that Colt makes something in-house???????????? Then......... go on to double down against an established Industry guy, stating that he doesn't know what he's talking about??!! Guy, you lit the dumpster fire in this thread and several knowledgeable people put it out, at what point do you just bow out? It's embarrassing to witness. If you have a personal beef with Toolcraft (or any manufacturer) or how the Gov't Procurement Chain works, you might want to express that directly before taking a thread off on an unneeded tangent. S/F Al |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 5:39:07 AM EDT
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@BigSal
 Have you seen the PSA smooth sided mag? Provides a similar style to the AK-103/104 mag but with a smaller logo. These should be what ships with the PSA 103. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 8:52:16 AM EDT
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 Attached FilePSA…got it end of September. Put a new Holosun AEMS on it. Will be taking out this weekend if time allows. Quality seems comparable to my Arsenal…finish actually better. Reliability remains to be seen. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 3:42:02 PM EDT
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Here's something I wonder about.
Does Kalashnikov USA pay any royalties to the Kalashnikov family for the use of the name? |
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Posted: 11/28/2021 5:48:24 PM EDT
[#19]
 You Spin me Round, Like an AK Baby! - DPMS Black Panther AK takes a beating! |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 3:48:25 PM EDT
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More DPMS AKs announced.
Or really PSA with the DPMS label. I guess these are Chevy to the General Motors brand.  DPMS Anvil Forged AK47 Rifles at Atlantic Firearms |
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Posted: 12/9/2021 12:20:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/9/2021 1:03:13 PM EDT
[#22]
Looks like he liked it for the price.
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Posted: 12/14/2021 8:11:41 AM EDT
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It is with a heavy heart that I report bad news.
In order to correct for windage, I had to push the front sight almost fully to the left. More annoyingly, the front sight post is so loose in the drum that it turns on its own under recoil. I could have pulled the post and speard the little fingers to give it more tension and this would have been appropriate had the drum been more or less centered. As it is I decided the best course of action is to let PSA deal with it. Rifle is boxed and labeled and should be on the UPS truck today. Will update when I can.  |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 9:42:45 AM EDT
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Shipping notification and repair note received this morning. The barrel has been replaced.
Obviously this should have been caught at the factory. But at least PSA paid shipping both ways and completed repairs in a timely manner. |
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Posted: 1/5/2022 3:56:56 PM EDT
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Let me see if I get this right. 3 pages of people mostly telling you not to buy junk US AKs , just spend a little extra get a good import. You get the US made AK anyway. Shortly after is going back because of bad QC…. Anyways hope it works out for you and they get all the QC issues worked this time. Nothing more irritating than have to send the same gun back several times.
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Posted: 1/10/2022 11:58:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/228370/0377C0DC-92BE-49B8-B5AF-46B1D1121A01_jpe-2177981.JPG PSA…got it end of September. Put a new Holosun AEMS on it. Will be taking out this weekend if time allows. Quality seems comparable to my Arsenal…finish actually better. Reliability remains to be seen. I hope yours winds up being more reliable than mine. My AK-P grenaded its recoil assembly in less than 1800 rounds, and later snapped its firing pin in less than 3000 rounds. I've had similarly lackluster experiences with their 103 and GF4. I liken all PSA AKs to range toys at this point, and have no expectation of them actually performing well in a competition or high-intensity training environment. Do PSA rifles exist that can survive those conditions? I'm sure. I've just yet to personally experience decent performance out of their AKs when reliability is questioned. Given their prices these days, though? I can't really see a point in buying any of their AKs over a WASR or KUSA gun. |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 12:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope yours winds up being more reliable than mine. My AK-P grenaded its recoil assembly in less than 1800 rounds, and later snapped its firing pin in less than 3000 rounds. I've had similarly lackluster experiences with their 103 and GF4. I liken all PSA AKs to range toys at this point, and have no expectation of them actually performing well in a competition or high-intensity training environment. Do PSA rifles exist that can survive those conditions? I'm sure. I've just yet to personally experience decent performance out of their AKs when reliability is questioned. Given their prices these days, though? I can't really see a point in buying any of their AKs over a WASR or KUSA gun. Have you contacted PSA about these issues? @PalmettoStateArmory |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 12:38:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you contacted PSA about these issues? @PalmettoStateArmory Of course, and their response was to repair and return. Doesn't change the outcome being that their AKs are "meh" range toys. |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 12:42:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course, and their response was to repair and return. Doesn't change the outcome being that their AKs are "meh" range toys. Not at the present time I guess it doesn't. Hopefully they'll find that happy medium between quality and price and then turn out a consistent product. And, just as a reminder, I am not buying a WASR. Unless it is sawn in half and bought cheap as a parts kit. |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 1:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not at the present time I guess it doesn't. Hopefully they'll find that happy medium between quality and price and then turn out a consistent product. And, just as a reminder, I am not buying a WASR. Unless it is sawn in half and bought cheap as a parts kit. I won't hold my breath. They're five generations in and still producing mediocre guns. Hopefully them finally accommodating a relief cut for the front trunnion to prevent impacting with the locking lugs, coupled with outsourcing their bolts and trunnions to Toolcraft yields lasting positive results. That aside, not sure why you'd be adverse to a WASR. The v2's gas block is wonky, but I've noticed nothing particularly bad about them. Just do all the normal pre-buy checks like you do with any AK, like checking for proper alignment of the RSB, GB, and FSB. I'll take a ROMAK over pretty much any commercial offering these days. Both for value and performance purposes. |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 1:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That aside, not sure why you'd be adverse to a WASR Aside from previous experience with QC issues the WASR has none of the anesthetics I want. No 90° gas block. No side folding trunnion. |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 3:07:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aside from previous experience with QC issues the WASR has none of the anesthetics I want. No 90° gas block. No side folding trunnion. Meh, aesthetics are secondary for me. Aside from that, can't really say there's much in the way of bad QC with the WASR, and what QC issues do exist can be easily recognized by just checking for cant between the RSB, GB, and FSB. |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 11:08:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope yours winds up being more reliable than mine. My AK-P grenaded its recoil assembly in less than 1800 rounds, and later snapped its firing pin in less than 3000 rounds. I've had similarly lackluster experiences with their 103 and GF4. I liken all PSA AKs to range toys at this point, and have no expectation of them actually performing well in a competition or high-intensity training environment. Do PSA rifles exist that can survive those conditions? I'm sure. I've just yet to personally experience decent performance out of their AKs when reliability is questioned. Given their prices these days, though? I can't really see a point in buying any of their AKs over a WASR or KUSA gun. If you would like me to help you with any of your issues, please PM me. Thank you, Josiah |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 4:02:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you would like me to help you with any of your issues, please PM me. Thank you, Josiah You guys already warranty repaired the aforementioned firearms, so there's not much for you to do with help. I took it upon myself to later refresh the bolts with combloc kits, and replace springs with ALG springs to prevent recoil assembly failures in the future. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:44:11 PM EDT
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UPS brought the rifle back to me this afternoon. I'll hopefully shoot it this weekend to see if the front sight will now be (more or less) centered once zeroed.
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Posted: 1/16/2022 10:13:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Toolcraft’s own website doesn’t say anything about military contracts. If they did supply any, it must have been a relatively small run of replacement parts or foreign military aid since the BCGs supplied with rifles were and are made in house by Colt and FN respectively. Toolcraft is the OEM for low end AR-15 manufacturers like PSA, and their bolts often break at low round counts. AO precision |
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Posted: 1/20/2022 3:16:28 PM EDT
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I'll admit that I am beyond confused here.
AK47 vs AK74. I always thought the 74 was a different round? I understand that some here don't like the US made AKs, but what about the PSA that uses surplus parts? Does that solve any problems/perceived problems? Or make anyone feel better about them? What is different between a WASR-10 and a PSA Romanian parts kit gun, besides who built the receiver? Would they both be better with surplus triggers? If you had a problem with WASR or similar rifle, who would you send it to for warranty? |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:00:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: KUSA an "over priced gimmick" ? I don't think so. This past year Kalashnikov USA successfully fulfilled two contracts for the US government, one to an agency of the Department of Homeland Security and the other to the Big Green Machine. I don't think they did that by being an "over priced gimmick" or even the lowest priced bidder. KUSA firearms are 100% made in the USA by American workers in Florida using newly manufactured US parts to include chrome-lined barrels, trunions, receivers, trigger groups etc. Don't believe me? Look up Ian McCollum's Forgotten Weapons You Tube review of KUSA's KR 9 9mm SBR. He reviews it in great detail and describes it as a perfect semi auto copy of the 9mm Russian Vityaz submachine gun. KUSA is known for its meticulous adherence to the original Russian specifications in all of its product offerings. IMHO, the Vitayaz/KR 9 in either full auto or semi auto will give even the famed H&K MP 5 subgun/semi SBR a run for its money any day of the week and twice on Sundays! Eyeball the KR 9's metal lined polymer double column double feed magazines, patterned after the ultra reliable PPS 43 subgun mags, and you will understand why it runs like a scalded dog no matter what ammo you feed it. Bottom line: There is NO comparison between a KUSA AK firearm and any of the other companies mentioned here. The small premium you pay for a KUSA gun is peanuts compered to the substantial upgrade in quality, reliability and finish. BTW, each KUSA firearm is proof tested for safety and accuracy in their indoor range before being cleaned, packed and shipped to a distributor or FFL dealer. @Shoot1K At about 8:18 a KUSA rep indicates that they have access to the Kalashnikov TDP. Can you comment on this. That is if you are affiliated with the company?  SHOT Show 2022 Q&A: H&K's Your Huckleberry! |
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Posted: 3/7/2022 7:11:21 AM EDT
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KUSA KR-103 side folder with Delta Stryker 1-6. Warne mount. Zenitco base.
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