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7/11/2009 6:28:06 PM EDT
I’ve got some issues with my Century AMD-65. I know – I shouldn’t have bought a Century gun but I read a couple of good reviews and these aren’t actually built by them.

The rifle shoots way high and left. At 100 yards, it shoots about 32” high and 42” left of the point of aim and the rear sight is set at its lowest setting (100 meters). The problem is that adjustment required will be more than the maximum amount of adjustment allowed by the front sight. The distance between the front and rear sights is around 13.1 inches, so by simple proportion calculation, I need to move the front sight up about 2.7 mm and to the left about 4 mm to get the gun sighted in.

The front sight pin is already loose within the front sight drum and if I unscrew it upwards 2.7 mm, it’s going to be totally unthreaded and fall out. It’s difficult to measure, but it appears the rear sight is higher than the front sight. As you’ll notice, the front trunnion is actually a Romanian G trunnion. I thought that the Romanian and Hungarian trunnions were the same dimensions, but now I am starting to doubt this. As you’ll also notice in the pics, the gas tube appears to angle slightly upwards from the gas block to rear trunnion.

As you can see, the front sight allows for about 2 mm of leftward adjustment when I need about 4 mm of travel to get the gun on target. So it looks like the front sight tower pins need to be popped out and the sight rotated slightly left and re-pinned. It looks like the muzzle brake is welded to front sight base only and could be rotated with it but I’m not sure.

I’ve contacted Century and they will take it in for repair (with me paying shipping of course).  They said they’re currently backed up for 5 weeks for repairs. I’m guessing they’ll they’ll hack up the rifle and send it back to me not fixed properly.

Is this thing worth the effort? Should I just pay to have a reputable smith work on it?



I can't get 2.7 mm of height out of this pin. It's loose and wobbles as is:


Sight allows for about 2 mm leftward travel. I need 4 mm.



Note the gas tube angled slightly upward toward the back.  Are Romanian G rear trunnions too high?

7/11/2009 9:42:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Let's start with the basics..... Are your sights canted (i.e. lean left or right from center)?? The bottom of the front sight post is split, so if you remove it completely you may be able to take a small flat blade screwdriver and LIGHTLY pry the ends apart a little more so it has more tension on it against the threads when you screw it back in. Take your time and go slowly so as not to open it up too much or it won't fit back in.

 You may find that when you remove the front sight post it's broken, which is a possibility if it wiggles like you say. Check those 2 issues first. If ouy have a sight post moving around that may be your problem right there.
7/12/2009 8:39:21 AM EDT
[#2]







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I’ve got some issues with my Century AMD-65. I know – I shouldn’t have bought a Century gun but I read a couple of good reviews and these aren’t actually built by them.
The rifle shoots way high and left. At 100 yards, it shoots about 32” high and 42” left of the point of aim and the rear sight is set at its lowest setting (100 meters).  I need to move the front sight up about 2.7 mm and to the left about 4 mm to get the gun sighted in.
As you can see, the front sight allows for about 2 mm of leftward adjustment when I need about 4 mm of travel to get the gun on target. So it looks like the front sight tower pins need to be popped out and the sight rotated slightly left and re-pinned. It looks like the muzzle brake is welded to front sight base only and could be rotated with it but I’m not sure.
Is this thing worth the effort? Should I just pay to have a reputable smith work on it?






Nice Graphic !  









If you have a real Gunsmith locally - he could make you a higher front sight post rather easily.
He could also check the FSB to see if it's plumb or already canted a bit.








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7/12/2009 5:54:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks - there is a local guy who does nice AK's.
7/12/2009 6:21:05 PM EDT
[#4]
You need to look and see if the muzzle of the brake is concentric with the bore, and check for bullet tracks in the brake muzzle. Frequently the original brake with 2" extension is crooked. Raise the locking lever for the gas tube and push it down to see if it's all the way down - it probably will snap down to the correct position. Now see if the locking lever still tightens up.
Your gun is awfully messed up somehow for the sights to be that far off. Maybe it is the Romanian trunion/sight. Why doesn't it have the original Hungarian parts? I've never seen an 'AMD-65' without the original trunion. The front grip isn't right either. Does it at least have the side folder? I think I'd try to give that thing back and get a refund.
7/12/2009 6:35:15 PM EDT
[#5]
it doesn't have the extended brake and uses a new US made barrel. yeah, the gas tube is all the way down for sure. Not sure what's up withe the grips - it didn't disuade me from buying since their an easy swap.
7/12/2009 9:30:49 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
it doesn't have the extended brake and uses a new US made barrel. yeah, the gas tube is all the way down for sure. Not sure what's up withe the grips - it didn't disuade me from buying since their an easy swap.


Definitely check the inside of that brake for rub marks. Better yet, take it off and shoot a group. That is the first thing you should do.
7/13/2009 5:35:07 PM EDT
[#7]
no marks inside the brake, it's nice and concentric to the barrel

the brake is permanently attached
7/13/2009 5:40:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Before you sent it to a gunsmith try calling Century. Some of my customers have had good luck sending them back if they were bought new.

Some have taken several trips and some rifles were completely replaced, somehad no luck with century.


That barrel could be bent. I have seen LOTS of bent barrels in my time. its not that uncommon, especially with AK's

Its worth the shipping cost before laying out money on a gun that may not be worth fixing (repair cost relative to gun value)

I be a Gunsmith too
7/13/2009 5:45:09 PM EDT
[#9]
Great advice! I hadn't considered that.

I got a bent barrel one time in a kit. I stuck it in my press and bent it right back. It shoots great.
7/13/2009 7:08:55 PM EDT
[#10]
In the first pic the barrel does look a little off.  Ref off of the top handguard as it relates to the break and front sight post.  Could just be camera angle though.  But a Romy G trunion on an amd-65, huh?
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