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Posted: 11/6/2005 10:21:01 AM EDT
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The last round of a 40 rnd box of Cheetah ammo (Brass case, berdan primed, from Africa), failed to fire. The primer ignited and blew out the primer pocket, the bolt cycled and ripped part of the rim off. The powder did not ignite. It looks like there were no holes from the primer pocket to the powder charge. I have a full case and bullet stuck in my chamber ( sans primer of course). Any advise on gettin this out of my chamber? It is stuck pretty hard, I've already tried the cleaning rod to drive it out. Thanks UPDATE: Soaked the barrel with Breakfree for a couple of days and got me a wood dowel to drive the round out. Now I have a broken wood dowel stuck in the barrel along with the cartridge in the chamber. Any ideas? |
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Obviously, tear down the weapon, remove the bolt and carier. If the case is still in the chamber, what I've done is, get a set of needle nose pliers and grab the base of the cartridge and lever it out. If that doesn't work, do as stated above, start beating on it with all of your body away from the muzzle in the event it decides to let off. Do not hold onto the rod, slide it into the barrel, let go and hit with mallet. Safety glasses a must! Of course, this is internet advice and olny gets 0 mpg. cya |
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Thanks, I think I'll need to get something a bit stouter than a cleaning rod to pound this thing out. I'm going to try to find a steel rod at the local hardware store. I've poured CLP down the bore to lube the case and I think I've already pounded the bullet back down in to the case. Hopefully the CLP has inerted the power and reduced that danger. Scott |
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Also prop it up and hose wd40 down the bbl to both aid removal and let it seep around the bullet to dampen any powder in the case. Based on popular net wisdom of some police using lots of wd40 for guns, letting the ammo sit in them for a long time, then hearing the guns go click... |
Something similar to this happened to me, my bolt did not cycle but, I pulled it back and saw a smoking primer fall off. After waiting for about 15 mins, I put the rod to it and hammered the bitch, first with a mag (causing a nice dent), then with a real hammer. |
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A wood dowel was probably not the best thing to use. But anyway. where is it broken off at? You can try a muzzle loading ball puller to try and retrieve the dowel. It consists of a screw on the end of a black powder rod that you ram down the muzzle, twist and start pulling. Hopefully that might work. If not, you will need a metal rod close to the same diameter as the bore (can be had at any hardware store) and you are going to have to beat them out. It will take brute force and ignorance, but it will work. Please keep yourself safe with all of this and do what needs to be done. You are not going to damage the bore to any great extent (if any.) Have done it numerous times and have yet to damage a bore. But then again, I have not had a wood dowel to push out also!! hitting Let us know how it goes. cya |
| I had this experience getting a steel .223 case out of a Daewoo. I had to drill through the back of the case so I could drop a steel ball into the case to plug the neck. Then I stuck the nozzle of my mig into the case and filled it with weld a little at a time. By doing it slow it didn't weld through the case. The case just fell out. It was an act of desperation after two weeks of trying to get it out using every way I could come up with to no avail. IF you can get the powder out or at least get it neutralized so you can drill the back of the case (slowly by hand, not power, avoid possible sparks, drench in oil while drilling) safely to remove the powder then it might be worth a try. Heating up the case like I did meant the trunnion and chamber stayed hot and the case cooled slightly. I tipped it up to look at it and the case fell out. Last thing I expected and it didn't hurt the rifle at all. Take your time, think and don't get hurt. GET THE POWDER OUT before you do anything else. I'm just relating my experience and in no way am I suggesting this method of removing a stuck case. Another way might be to heat the case up with a very small torch from the inside after drilling the back of the case, removing the powder and blocking the neck with a steel ball to try to achieve the same result. It should fall out once you get it good and hot. OF COURSE, YOU DO NOT HEAT THE CASE WITH POWDER IN IT EVEN IF YOU THINK THE POWDER IS NEUTRALIZED! |
| You might try using an autobody type slide hammer. Drill a hole in the primer end of the case and screw in the tip of the slide hammer. Then see if you can pull it out. Trying to push it out probably just caused the case to swell and made it lock more firmly in the chamber. Add to that, the wood dowel is probably wedged into the mouth of the case. Pulling might work better. Never tried it. Just an idea. |
I'll start taking pics to document (remind myself) of what a pain in the ass this has been. I've been trying not to damage the base of the case, I wanted to get it out intact to see if there was a hole for the primer to flash tru to the power. I can't see one and don't think there is. If you haven't used this ammo it is brass cased but berdan primed. I think I just got screwd by Zimbabwes quality control. If there is such a thing. After this I'm sticking to the russian ammo! |
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