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8/23/2012 3:05:54 PM EDT
Besides the trade embargo and the fact that Castro and his cronies will never die. If Cuba ever did open up (or if we opened up to a Cuba that our government could accept), do you think there could be an influx of AK parts from that little island that's 90 miles from our shores?
8/23/2012 3:32:59 PM EDT
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I doubt it, but it would be pretty great if a manufacturer could purchase that old Soviet machinery and start producing US copies.
8/23/2012 4:46:35 PM EDT
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No, but there would probably be a huge influx of 57 Chevy's. Since they can't get any new American cars since 1960, they've somehow kept the old ones running.  GARY  N4KVE
8/23/2012 4:55:22 PM EDT
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No, but there would probably be a huge influx of 57 Chevy's. Since they can't get any new American cars since 1960, they've somehow kept the old ones running.  GARY  N4KVE


i laughed really fucking hard at this haha
8/23/2012 5:20:15 PM EDT
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No, but there would probably be a huge influx of 57 Chevy's. Since they can't get any new American cars since 1960, they've somehow kept the old ones running.  GARY  N4KVE


Cuba is to '57 Chevy's as Khyber Pass is to AK's, no joke. They've had to do some "creative" things to keep those cars on the road this long.
8/23/2012 6:04:56 PM EDT
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No, but there would probably be a huge influx of 57 Chevy's. Since they can't get any new American cars since 1960, they've somehow kept the old ones running.  GARY  N4KVE


Cuba is to '57 Chevy's as Khyber Pass is to AK's, no joke. They've had to do some "creative" things to keep those cars on the road this long.


my daughter is a photographer and took this pic in Cuba last year....



another....

8/24/2012 4:08:13 AM EDT
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No, but there would probably be a huge influx of 57 Chevy's. Since they can't get any new American cars since 1960, they've somehow kept the old ones running.  GARY  N4KVE


Now that's funny.
8/24/2012 4:55:06 AM EDT
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No, but there would probably be a huge influx of 57 Chevy's. Since they can't get any new American cars since 1960, they've somehow kept the old ones running.  GARY  N4KVE


Cuba is to '57 Chevy's as Khyber Pass is to AK's, no joke. They've had to do some "creative" things to keep those cars on the road this long.


and most are running Russian Deisel engines
8/24/2012 5:17:22 AM EDT
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Cuba would be another source for 7.62X39 ammo though
8/24/2012 5:59:23 AM EDT
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I doubt it, but it would be pretty great if a manufacturer could purchase that old Soviet machinery and start producing US copies.


If I ever won a big lottery jackpot, I know that is what I would be doing.  AKs for pennies, and we could have all of the varieties of rifles and parts that can't be imported currently.  No more having to shell out for rare original barrels.
8/24/2012 7:34:25 AM EDT
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Really all that would be needed are the original blue prints, with those everything could be machined on a CNC machine. FN could hammer forge the barrels, and the receivers could be stamped.
8/24/2012 7:58:29 AM EDT
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I doubt it, but it would be pretty great if a manufacturer could purchase that old Soviet machinery and start producing US copies.


If I ever won a big lottery jackpot, I know that is what I would be doing.  AKs for pennies, and we could have all of the varieties of rifles and parts that can't be imported currently.  No more having to shell out for rare original barrels.


Unfortunately that plan would have to exclude those intact original barrels.
8/24/2012 8:14:57 AM EDT
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I doubt it, but it would be pretty great if a manufacturer could purchase that old Soviet machinery and start producing US copies.


If I ever won a big lottery jackpot, I know that is what I would be doing.  AKs for pennies, and we could have all of the varieties of rifles and parts that can't be imported currently.  No more having to shell out for rare original barrels.


Unfortunately that plan would have to exclude those intact original barrels.


I think he is refering to the barrel forging machinery also. Not buying parts kits.

8/24/2012 2:03:54 PM EDT
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I've known a few cubans and one said there were a lot of old chevys,but that was 20 years ago.  Another recently told me many of the old cars had converted to Soviet engines and put out a lot of polution.
8/24/2012 2:59:06 PM EDT
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They get a lot of parts from Argentina,especially rubber seals,gaskets,weatherstrippng,small mechanical stuff.
Maybe they trade their cigars,and ammunition for the parts?
Glak
8/24/2012 5:05:48 PM EDT
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I doubt it, but it would be pretty great if a manufacturer could purchase that old Soviet machinery and start producing US copies.


If I ever won a big lottery jackpot, I know that is what I would be doing.  AKs for pennies, and we could have all of the varieties of rifles and parts that can't be imported currently.  No more having to shell out for rare original barrels.


Unfortunately that plan would have to exclude those intact original barrels.


I think he is refering to the barrel forging machinery also. Not buying parts kits.



Bingo!  Why worry about trying to import foreign barrels when you can make your own on the original equipment...
8/24/2012 10:47:21 PM EDT
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Never knew the Cubans "rolled their own" on Soviet tooling...

Does anyone have any pictures? Now THAT would be an exotic AK to get your hands on...

Sounds like the Cuban made AK would be the closest you could get to the Soviet hardware at the time, in that kind of condition. I would imagine that they have seen much less action and passing around than most all from Soviet States
8/25/2012 5:32:26 AM EDT
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Only problem with this is that Cuba don't build their own AK's, therefore no tooling to sell to us so we can build our own either.



In 2011, Russia announced that they were going to help Cuba build a ammo plant to produce AK-47 ammo.



Now, Venezuela does has an AK factory, we would have a better chance of getting that tooling after Chavez kicks the bucket.  
 
8/25/2012 5:57:56 AM EDT
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I would be much more interested in Cuban cigars, along with the many thousands of 1911 pistols, M1 Rifles and M1 Carbines that we sent to prop up Batista before Castro took over. BTW, did you know that for a time we were supporting both Batista and Castro? That was before we found out Castro was a Communist. That whole deal was one of the most stupid episodes in US foreign policy, and it has continued to this day. Just drop the embargo and let nature take it's course, which eventually will result in free enterprise and democracy returning to Cuba.
8/25/2012 4:25:50 PM EDT
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Only problem with this is that Cuba don't build their own AK's, therefore no tooling to sell to us so we can build our own either.

In 2011, Russia announced that they were going to help Cuba build a ammo plant to produce AK-47 ammo.

Now, Venezuela does has an AK factory, we would have a better chance of getting that tooling after Chavez kicks the bucket.    


And there we have it. Sounded too good to be true
8/26/2012 1:02:43 PM EDT
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Besides the trade embargo and the fact that Castro and his cronies will never die. If Cuba ever did open up (or if we opened up to a Cuba that our government could accept), do you think there could be an influx of AK parts from that little island that's 90 miles from our shores?


No their crap is so old and unserviceable plus everything they have they need they wouldn't start selling it unless that country magically got the money and the means to get updated weaponry.  Plus there is no real gun Market they don't just have the stuff lying around.  I think there would be an influx of Cubans, but that's about it.
8/26/2012 4:08:02 PM EDT
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Besides the trade embargo and the fact that Castro and his cronies will never die. If Cuba ever did open up (or if we opened up to a Cuba that our government could accept), do you think there could be an influx of AK parts from that little island that's 90 miles from our shores?


No their crap is so old and unserviceable plus everything they have they need they wouldn't start selling it unless that country magically got the money and the means to get updated weaponry.  Plus there is no real gun Market they don't just have the stuff lying around.  I think there would be an influx of Cubans, but that's about it.


influx of cubans...cigars or people?

I would think a lot of them would want to go back and be with their families with the communists gone. but i'm sure plenty would relish the opportunity to get out of there
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