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5/4/2005 6:30:15 AM EDT
I'm trying to decide what AK would be a good choice for me.  I was going to post this question in another thread titled "Buy a WASR-10 or spend a little more?" but decided I wouldn't want to hijack that thread from its original question.

I'm a college student, so money is a very big issue.  I'm planning on using money from a summer job to save up for an AK, but obviously I need to put greater consideration into paying for school and things of that nature.  Based on what I've been reading, a WASR-10 or an SAR-1 would be good choices, as they're relatively inexpensive but still decent enough to be durable and long-lasting.  Are there any other AKs I should consider?  What else is available?  Is there any other factor I should consider when purchasing one?  

I live near the Twin Cities as a WI resident, if that makes any difference.  I'd appreciate any help you all might give.
5/4/2005 6:37:53 AM EDT
[#1]
Why not build your own? It will give ya something to do in your spare time and you can buy the parts as you have the cash. You can get all the questions you can ask answered here or over at Gunco. Take you time with it, odds are you will end up having twice the rifle a WASR is for the same price or maybe even a bit less.
5/4/2005 7:02:56 AM EDT
[#2]
Try to find a SAR1. You can always do a "makeover" on her later when you can afford it.
5/4/2005 7:03:31 AM EDT
[#3]
100 kit, 60 US rec, 40 US fcg, 20 US pistol grip, 20 US gas piston, 6 rivets, 5 spray paint, 40 misc shipping and ffl fees = 291 ballpark likely cost to build your own, not counting beer for your friendly area gun nut shop fee.

Best Romy groups are usually 4", and Hungarian bbls can get you closer to 3"

Or a 140 Yugo SKS may get you thru college
5/4/2005 7:12:11 AM EDT
[#4]
A big factor may be what you can actually find in stock.  You could convert a wasr from low to hi-cap and save a lot of money with a little work.  gunsnstuff has low caps for around $200... call them and see if they have any in stock.
5/4/2005 8:25:33 AM EDT
[#5]
Normally I wouldn't recommend this but your in college and money is tight, so ...

I think this is about as cheap as it gets without doing a build ...
Go to: GunsnStuff ...

OR, ask the guys here if you can just get that Low-cap WASR and file out the magwell to fit a hi-cap magazine like "ShoulderIT" suggested ...
5/4/2005 8:44:34 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
100 kit, 60 US rec, 40 US fcg, 20 US pistol grip, 20 US gas piston, 6 rivets, 5 spray paint, 40 misc shipping and ffl fees = 291 ballpark likely cost to build your own, not counting beer for your friendly area gun nut shop fee.

Best Romy groups are usually 4", and Hungarian bbls can get you closer to 3"

Or a 140 Yugo SKS may get you thru college




How involved is a build?  I'm not the most mechanically inclined, but I can do things that aren't too difficult if I apply myself for long enough (if all else fails, I can beg my father for help, as he is quite handy).  I was looking at the kit shown in this particular thread...

ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=123&t=267566

...and it doesn't seem to be overly complex.  Wouldn't make the prettiest looking gun, but I believe the popular phrase is "Beggars can't be choosers."  Besides, I don't really care what it looks like as long as I'm comfortable firing it and it works.

What else would building my own from a kit involve?  I've never purchased a firearm, so it would be my first time.  Would I just go to a gunshop and ask the owner to order a receiver?  Or are there other ways to go about this?

Hmm, I think I'd better find that thread about imported and U.S. parts and read it over several times.....Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone!  I'd like as much input as I can get!
5/4/2005 9:02:07 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
A big factor may be what you can actually find in stock.  You could convert a wasr from low to hi-cap and save a lot of money with a little work.  gunsnstuff has low caps for around $200... call them and see if they have any in stock.



Thanks for the reminder, and Gunsstuff is also is his general area to possible just buy it there and skip another layer of shipping/ffl stuff. A 10round mag-only AK that he can fix up later may be just the thing.

Now if we got him started on a C&R license to save money instead...
5/4/2005 9:05:11 AM EDT
[#8]
Hey, I'm in college to (FAU, GO OWLS, haha) and cash is always a problem... I have a part time job so I can afford some stuff...
Try www.aimsurplus.com and get a hi cap Romy... If you dont like what you got by mail return it for another one or a refund.
I bought my first ak on Feb and i like it... Ammo is cheap!

Good luck, and if you have any questions PM me...
5/4/2005 10:30:20 AM EDT
[#9]
classicarms has the non-military version hi-caps back in stock for $279.95.  You really won't miss any of the military stuff I don't think!

Do you have someone to transfer the gun for you yet?
5/4/2005 12:01:36 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A big factor may be what you can actually find in stock.  You could convert a wasr from low to hi-cap and save a lot of money with a little work.  gunsnstuff has low caps for around $200... call them and see if they have any in stock.



Thanks for the reminder, and Gunsstuff is also is his general area to possible just buy it there and skip another layer of shipping/ffl stuff. A 10round mag-only AK that he can fix up later may be just the thing.

Now if we got him started on a C&R license to save money instead...hr



I'm starting to fear I'm getting ahead of myself.  A new, single-stack-only WASR-10 with sling, cleaning kit and two magazines (5 & 10 rd.) from GunsNStuff is only $179.95.  And that place is less than 15 miles from my hometown......I'm starting to drool thinking about the possibilities!


I've got to get a job and get paid first (I haven't worked since August, due to school), but this is seeming like something that could happen very soon.  What exactly is the process of going through an FFL-holder?  How long does it take?  How much do they usually charge?


Also, I viewed the thread on converting a single-stack WASR-10 so it could accept double-stack magazines.  How well does that work?  It seems like doing so would be better than spending an extra $100 for the high-capacity version, but then again I'd be a bit afraid of screwing up my rifle indefinitely.  Any more opinions or input?
5/4/2005 12:17:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Call GnS and see if they'll sell to you right there, then no more ffl issues.

Keep in mind that the hicap form means you need US parts for 922r compliance. Usually3 for the fire control group (hammer trigger sear) $40 G2/Tapco, you can do gas piston and pistol grip for about $20 each, or spend $85 at KVAR if you want black polymer.

Not the huge savings it looks to be up front, but it's an AK sooner that can be hicap evil later as bidget allows.
5/4/2005 12:51:14 PM EDT
[#12]
for the life of me, i dont see the low caps on gunsnstuff.net
i swear i must be blind.
5/4/2005 1:11:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Here's the link to the single stack low-cap $179 ... be warned... gunsnstuff never seems to have anything in stock.  Call them before you drool over anything on their site.

I doubt you can just go buy one from gunsnstuff without going through an FFL?  I know atlanticfirearms couldn't do it for me.  There is a list of FFL's somewhere on this site, just search for it. or look here
My FFL charges $30 for regulated firearms.

You better get a good paying job because this is an expensive hobby hinking.gif
5/4/2005 1:24:45 PM EDT
[#14]
just called them
"none in stock, give them 6-8 weeks"
5/5/2005 6:14:38 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
classicarms has the non-military version hi-caps back in stock for $279.95.  You really won't miss any of the military stuff I don't think!

Do you have someone to transfer the gun for you yet?




The hi-cap models from Classic Arms look nice, as do the hi-cap models from GunsNstuff, and both cost $279.95.  Does anyone have experience with either company?  I'm thinking of just saving up my pennies and purchasing one of them sometime this summer.

One more thing.  When it comes to using an FFL-holder, is it as simple as going to one, telling them what I want, asking them to order it for me and paying them?  Is that how it works?
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