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10/28/2007 1:10:49 PM EDT
I just put an order in to Ohio Rapid Fire for an AK-74S.  I was wondering what you guys think of your ORF Ak's?
10/28/2007 1:33:42 PM EDT
[#1]
i dont think i've ever seen anyone say anything but good stuff about ORF.

i hate threads like this, it makes me want a 74 and i should be changing platforms and getting something entirely different instead of doing that. *Sigh*
10/28/2007 1:39:20 PM EDT
[#2]
I know a couple of people on the board that have them and they have been happy, I also work with a couple of guys that have them, and they are happy too


ORF has great Customer Service, I have ordered a few parts kits and lots of magazines and ammo from them, and all I have to say is good things about them
10/28/2007 1:57:25 PM EDT
[#3]
I got my AKS74 parts kit from last week, looks sweet, cant wait to get my NODAK to assemble it.



And to everyone else, 5.45x39 is the worst caliber in the world, it has no power, it drops like a brick, burns your barrel out, will rust your gun and such.
Got to stop the newbs from buying all my new cheap ammo lol.
10/28/2007 2:01:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks guys good to hear.  I am always worried about putting lots of cash (anything over 500) on something like this for it to be a lemon.  What cleaning process do you guys use for all that corrosive ammo?
10/28/2007 2:30:49 PM EDT
[#5]
very hot water followed by oil
10/28/2007 3:48:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Windex because of the ammonia content as soon as possible, I keep it in the car for spraying right at the range.  To neutralize the corrosive (water attracting) stuff, hot soapy water.

A lot of guys bring up the point of copper/lead fouling covering the corrosive stuff in layers, so the ol' windex comes into play there eating that stuff up.  Hot soapy water, windex, regular cleaning techniques, and you should be set.
10/28/2007 4:35:54 PM EDT
[#7]
All you really need to do is flush out the corrosive salts.  Water, alcohol, Windex, brake cleaner, Ballistol - all of them work.  

G
10/28/2007 5:11:22 PM EDT
[#8]
About a month ago I bought an ORF AK-74 rifle.

Here's my experience:
The rifle is shown on the web site as being a Bulgarian AK-74 parts kit assembled to a Ohio Ordnance Works (OOF) receiver.
ORF no longer uses the spot hardened OOF receiver, and now uses the superior Arsenal/Global Trades fully hardened receiver.
When I ordered the rifle I understood it would have an OOW receiver, and since what I really wanted was a Global or Nodak Spud, I was very pleased.

The parts kit was brand new, all matching numbers, with a Non-chrome plated pressed-in bushing type AK-74 muzzle brake.  According to Todd at ORF, about 50% of the kits have chrome lined brakes, and 50% don't.

The actual build was excellent with some very good rivet work, and a nicely done parkerizing job on the receiver.
The wood is a dark blond in color.  Strangely, my lower hand guard is a different type of wood than the stock, and has an almost Walnut-like color and grain.
There is ZERO side play in the rear sight leaf, which makes for a more accurate rifle.
Everything fit properly except the bolt carrier would have needed just a little more room in the receiver cut to come out easily.  Due to the cut being just a tiny bit short, the carrier needed to be rocked to get it in and out.
Part of this was caused by the recoil buffer blocking rearward movement of the bolt carrier.

The trigger assembly is the excellent Tapco single hook, although the receiver is set up for a double hook.
The gas piston is the Tapco hardened stainless steel, and the pistol grip is a black plastic marked A-USA, "Arsenal USA" ???
There's an unmarked black polymer buffer in the rifle.

The rifle came in a black plastic gun case, packed inside with the rifle were:
A black polymer Bulgarian like-new magazine.
A well-used cleaning kit with the wrong threads for the AK-74. (This was replaced by ORF with a NEW kit with the right threads).
A new Bulgarian bayonet and scabbard.
4 stripper clips and a guide.
A new sling.
Also in the box, but not advertised was a Bulgarian drop bag for the folding stock AK-74, (This does not fit a full stock rifle.) and a black oil bottle.

The Problem:
Unfortunately, the sights and gas block were canted VERY far over to the left.
This was so obvious, it should have been caught during the build.
I contacted ORF and they had me send the rifle back.
This is where I screwed up.
I asked if I could send only the barreled receiver, since I was refinishing the wood.

When I got the barreled action back, the sights and gas block were still canted slightly to the left, but now the lower hand guard retainer was canted so far to the right, the hand guard wouldn't fit on without force.
I blame ME for this one.  Although the barrel was still rotated to the left, the gunsmith simply didn't notice that the lower hand guard retainer was rotated way over to the right.
This was simply a case of the BULGARIAN FACTORY putting out a defective barrel.
Either the entire front and rear sights and gas block assemblies were canted, or the grooves for the lower handguard retainer were mis-cut.
Had I returned the entire rifle he would have seen the problem.

I again contacted ORF and they paid for return shipping of the entire rifle.
They contacted me and told me that they were sending me a new rifle.
Since I had to go through my dealer again to receive the rifle, ORF paid the $25.00 fee for me.
(I used to be a dealer, and back then a company could send an EXACT replacement rifle or shotgun to a customer if the original wasn't repairable.  ORF says they can't do this).

The new rifle has the sights and gas block canted VERY slightly to the Right.  I've shown the rifle to several people and most see the cant and several say it's straight.  
In any case the rifle is shooting slightly to the left.
I've been waiting for a sight adjusting tool before attempting to adjust for windage, but it looks like it's well within range for a slight tweak to put it on target.

I requested the new rifle to have a chrome lined muzzle break, and it came with a chrome lined "zig-zag" AK-74 break.
This rifle also has a chrome lined gas block, and the usual chrome lined barrel and chamber.

Again, the build is excellent, and the fit and finish leaves nothing to be desired.
Quality-wise I'd rate it right up there with my Bulgarian SLR 96 milled rifle.

I'd heard stories about ORF rifles developing rust between the trunnions and the receiver from failure to adequately "kill" the parkerizing process during parkerizing.

To preclude any problems, (and just to get it clean) I did the following.
The Bulgarian parts kit and the receiver was covered with a black coating like some sort of lubricant, and this would turn your hands black, so to clean the rifle and to prevent any possibility of rust I disassembled the rifle completely.
I put the metal in a sink and liberally sprayed it down with 409 kitchen cleaner, which is what was handy.
I made sure to apply a heavy spray inside and out to everything.
After soaking for 15 minutes, I took more spray and some toothbrushes and tube or bottle brushes, and scrubbed everything down.
After this I sprayed and flushed everything with HOT water until all the cleaner was off and the metal was hot, so it would self-dry.
Then I completed drying by warming the metal with a hair dryer.

While the rifle was still warm but dry, I coated everything with warm CLP Breakfree.
Each rivet got a drop inside and out, and I ran a heavy bead around each trunnion.
Once everything was heavily coated, I stood it up on a pad of newspaper to absorb the drips of CLP and allowed it to soak overnight.
Next day I wiped all the excess off, and reassembled.

I was able to test fire it, and other then being off slightly to the left, it needed one turn of the front sight to bring it up on target at 25 meters.
I'll get the front sight tool this week and do a final sighting.
The rifle fired 60 rounds of military surplus Polish ammo flawlessly, except for two misfires.
These were struck hard enough to fire, so I'm assuming bad ammo.
Next time out, if I get any misfires, I'll attempt a "second strike" to see if they'll fire.
Feeding was flawless, and ejection was VIGOROUS, throwing a madly spinning case at least 20 to 25 feet away and 8 to 10 feet up in the air.

All in all, other than the frustrating month I spent shipping the rifle back and forth, I'm EXTREMELY pleased with it.
For some reason, I've simply fallen in love with it.  I liked my high grade milled Bulgarian SLR, but for some reason this ORF AK-74 just appeals to me to the extent I hate to lock it away in the gun case.

Not the best picture, and I've since refinished the wood:




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